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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1395 on: June 10, 2020, 12:19:26 AM »
This doesn't make sense.  Unless he just intended to Abduct Madeleine to order.

Or if he was paid to dispose of (or conceal) her body.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 12:23:22 AM by Billy Whizz Fan Club »

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1396 on: June 10, 2020, 12:47:53 AM »
Please excuse me if I am being a bit thick, but I have no memories of a camper van being mentioned near 5A.  Why is the campervan so important to Madeleine Mccanns abduction ?   Why is everyone getting so excited about it?

Presumably when CB travelled abroad, he left his camper van and car somewhere?   Where cheaper than in his own backyard?   Looks pretty safe there too.

I can see that there might be a connection to the Joana Cipriano case, where a white and brown campervan with a man in it, was spotted parked for several days … and also a black saloon was seen cruising around Figueira.   These sound like the vehicles that CB owned.


Maybe the Police are trying to jog peoples memories if they think the van was used for Madeleines abduction?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1397 on: June 10, 2020, 07:17:09 AM »
Heri only found this image because he knows where he lived. It is possible he moved back there. Where was he staying in his camper? They haven't even released where he worked in May 2007 never mind where he lived.
If he moved back there and that picture proves to be of his van and Madeleine’s body is found on land or down the adjacent well then I can see the relevance of that picture.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 08:27:51 AM by Vertigo Swirl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1398 on: June 10, 2020, 07:17:46 AM »
Or if he was paid to dispose of (or conceal) her body.
Still banging that drum I see...
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1399 on: June 10, 2020, 07:26:59 AM »
Madeleine McCann ‘died soon after abduction’
A German prosecutor said he believed that Madeleine McCann was killed soon after she was kidnapped
A German prosecutor said he believed that Madeleine McCann was killed soon after she was kidnapped
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Madeleine McCann was killed soon after she was kidnapped, a German prosecutor told The Times yesterday as it was reported that the prime suspect had boasted that he would “document” the abduction of a child.

Police have discovered that Christian Brückner discussed kidnapping, raping and killing a girl in a conversation with another paedophile online. He graphically described his wish to “catch something little and use it for days”.

Asked about the risk of being caught, he said: “Meh, if the evidence is destroyed . . .”

He added: “Then I’ll record maaaany videos/clips. I’ll document in detail how she’s being tortured.” The conversation was discovered by German police investigating the disappearance of Inga Gehricke, five, on the eve of the eighth year since Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.

Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor leading the investigation into Brückner, said he feared that Madeleine had been killed shortly after being abducted from her family’s holiday flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal.


“My private opinion is that he relatively quickly killed the girl, possibly abused her and then killed her,” he said. “We believe our suspect committed further crimes, especially sexual crimes, in Portugal possibly but also elsewhere like Germany.”

Mr Wolters said that Brückner, 43, could be released today if a court in Kiel, the northern city where he is serving 21 months for dealing drugs, granted him parole because he has served two thirds of his sentence. Brückner is appealing against a seven-year sentence imposed last year for raping an American woman near Praia da Luz.

“The sooner we get evidence, the better for us to avoid the risk of him ever being released,” Mr Wolters said. “If we find nothing new against him it could be that in seven years at the latest he may be released and leaves Germany for a country that doesn’t extradite.

“If we don’t solve the McCann case perhaps we can prove he committed one or two other crimes, which might be enough to keep him in prison permanently in preventive detention.”

Mr Wolters declined to say whether he believed that Brückner had filmed his abuse of Madeleine, as he did with his other victims. He said investigators want to collect as much proof as possible before interrogating Brückner so that he would not be able to weaken the case against him by finding explanations for individual pieces of circumstantial evidence against him.

Brückner is appealing against his sentence for raping a 72-year-old American woman in 2005 at a villa close to where the McCanns later stayed. A video at his nearby farmhouse showed him raping and torturing her, another woman and a teenage girl.

Hazel Behan, an Irish woman who was raped in 2004 by an intruder 12 miles from Praia da Luz, and who was also filmed by her attacker, has asked police to review her case.

The attack on her bore striking similarities to that on the American victim. The rapist, who spoke English and German and whose description matches Brückner, tortured her for five hours.

The father of Louise Kerton, a 24-year-old British student nurse who disappeared in Germany in 2001, urged police to investigate possible links with Brückner. Phil Kerton, 75, from Kent, said: “It just confirms that the family have been right to keep persisting, there was something to find out there.”

Prosecutors are also looking for links to Peggy Knobloch, who disappeared in Lichtenberg, Bavaria, in May 2001, when she was nine.

Dutch detectives are investigating whether Brückner could be linked to Jaïr Soares, a seven-year-old boy who disappeared on a trip to a beach near the Hague in 1995.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1400 on: June 10, 2020, 08:12:34 AM »
‘ ... Three years later his other British ex joked that Brueckner looked like some of the photofits in the search for Maddie's abductor and asked him if he took her.

A friend of both women, who have each been interviewed by police but are not suspected of being involved in Maddie's disappearance, said: 'He blanked the question and shrugged — then added, "Just don't go there".'

The anonymous friend, originally from North Yorkshire but now living in Lagos, Portugal, said people dismissed the flippant comments, adding that both of his exes were beaten by Brueckner when they dated him.

He claims to have met Brueckner when he worked at expat bar The Tavern in the Portuguese town.

He added: 'What he said at that dinner suggests he planned the whole thing very carefully and that he might even have stolen Madeleine to order.'
(Daily Mail).

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1401 on: June 10, 2020, 08:40:25 AM »
‘ ... Three years later his other British ex joked that Brueckner looked like some of the photofits in the search for Maddie's abductor and asked him if he took her.

A friend of both women, who have each been interviewed by police but are not suspected of being involved in Maddie's disappearance, said: 'He blanked the question and shrugged — then added, "Just don't go there".'

The anonymous friend, originally from North Yorkshire but now living in Lagos, Portugal, said people dismissed the flippant comments, adding that both of his exes were beaten by Brueckner when they dated him.

He claims to have met Brueckner when he worked at expat bar The Tavern in the Portuguese town.

He added: 'What he said at that dinner suggests he planned the whole thing very carefully and that he might even have stolen Madeleine to order.'
(Daily Mail).

Is he referring to this pub opposite the church?

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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1402 on: June 10, 2020, 09:03:46 AM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/quiz-madeleine-mccann-suspect-over-22165832

'Quiz Madeleine McCann suspect over our girl, 8, who vanished three years earlier'

Joana Cipriano, eight, disappeared in 2004, five miles from where Madeleine McCann vanished. Her step-dad has urged German police to quiz Christian Brueckner over her disappearance


Thought so.  And about time too.  Bruckner could have sold her as well.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1403 on: June 10, 2020, 09:05:59 AM »
Or if he was paid to dispose of (or conceal) her body.

The day before Madeleine vanished?
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 09:13:04 AM by Eleanor »

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1404 on: June 10, 2020, 09:37:47 AM »
Thought so.  And about time too.  Bruckner could have sold her as well.

It was inevitable, Brückner is now fast becoming the fall guy for every mystery in western Europe.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 09:40:21 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Erngath

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1405 on: June 10, 2020, 09:44:54 AM »
It was inevitable, Brückner is now fast becoming the fall guy for every mystery in western Europe.

Not really.
Just cases of violent rape, paedophillia and missing children in countries where he is known/believed  to have lived.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1406 on: June 10, 2020, 09:47:43 AM »
It was inevitable, Brückner is now fast becoming the fall guy for every mystery in western Europe.

I'm still opting for Innocent Until Proven Guilty.  It's hard sometimes but I shall stick with it.  Especially as I genuinely don't know.

Offline Erngath

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1407 on: June 10, 2020, 09:52:29 AM »
I'm still opting for Innocent Until Proven Guilty.  It's hard sometimes but I shall stick with it.  Especially as I genuinely don't know.

A policy I too believe.
However when someone has been found guilty of abusing children and the violent rape of an elderly woman, then one has to consider that there is a possibility that this person has committed previous ghastly crimes.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1408 on: June 10, 2020, 09:54:47 AM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/quiz-madeleine-mccann-suspect-over-22165832

'Quiz Madeleine McCann suspect over our girl, 8, who vanished three years earlier'

Joana Cipriano, eight, disappeared in 2004, five miles from where Madeleine McCann vanished. Her step-dad has urged German police to quiz Christian Brueckner over her disappearance


I think warning bells should have been ringing off the wall in Policia Judiciaria HQ when Madeleine went missing bearing in mind a little girl had gone missing just five miles up the road.
And who is to say they weren't and the coping strategy was less than solving what had happened and was more along the lines of covering it up.

What we found out from Kate's book and vigorously denied by apologists until they became ridiculous in their denials, is that there was a sexual predator on the loose in the Algarve who had a penchant for entering sleeping homes to assault little girls with impunity.

What we did not know until the news from Germany hit the news stands was the extent and variety of the sexual predation rampant in the Algarve at the time Joana and then Madeleine disappeared.  One victim has put it on record that she was advised that the attack on her was bad for the tourist industry.

It really doesn't matter how loudly those in denial shout out, it won't prevent them becoming a nasty footnote in history as the truth of the evil on the loose in the Algarve and the apparent lack of resolve to deal with it becomes more and more established as more information is revealed.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Angelo222

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1409 on: June 10, 2020, 10:01:29 AM »
Not really.
Just cases of violent rape, paedophillia and missing children in countries where he is known/believed  to have lived.

And the claim is he murdered Maddie despite not having been accused previously of such an offence.  This entire charade is based on some alleged conversation with a so-called pal.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!