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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1575 on: June 10, 2020, 06:28:26 PM »
Yet to see a guilty verdict returned on any of them,do you know different.
You side-stepped the question, I wonder why?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1576 on: June 10, 2020, 06:30:40 PM »
so what are you on about - there's thousands of his sort about or do you think he is unique.
Thousands in PdL the night Madeleine went missing?  In any case Faithlilly’s question was about what possible motive he could have had and I suggested some based on crimes we know he has committed, that’s what I’m on about.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1577 on: June 10, 2020, 06:31:57 PM »
How did he abduct her? No evidence of Madeleine in his vehicles.  Smithman was heading towards the beach and not in the direction of his property.
No evidence found 10+ years after she disappeared is hardly a huge surprise is it?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1578 on: June 10, 2020, 06:33:07 PM »
No evidence found 10+ years after she disappeared is hardly a huge surprise is it?

If there was evidence of Madeleine it would be found but there is nothing. Back to Smithman after this nonsense!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1579 on: June 10, 2020, 06:34:00 PM »
New article in Daily Mail  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8406797/Madeleine-suspect-centre-legal-row-blunders-freed-jail-two-years-ago.html

The bit below the prison picture gives some explanation of the legal position.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1580 on: June 10, 2020, 06:35:48 PM »
No evidence found 10+ years after she disappeared is hardly a huge surprise is it?

Probably not, but jolly crucial to any prosecution, I would think.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1581 on: June 10, 2020, 06:38:04 PM »
If there was evidence of Madeleine it would be found but there is nothing. Back to Smithman after this nonsense!
Don’t be ridiculous, honestly- to say that there would definitely be evidence of a child in a car or van 10+ years after she once spent a few minutes in one is the height of idiocy imo.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1582 on: June 10, 2020, 06:45:29 PM »
I'm gratified you see that running the risk of compromising a police investigation is corrupt ... and in my opinion that is precisely what Amaral did ... "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose".

plus ça change

It was the UK That named him - not GA he just said a german could have been anyone.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1583 on: June 10, 2020, 06:54:25 PM »
Don’t be ridiculous, honestly- to say that there would definitely be evidence of a child in a car or van 10+ years after she once spent a few minutes in one is the height of idiocy imo.

How long does DNA last on objects?

Scientists have estimated that under the most ideal conditions, DNA can theoretically survive for a maximum of one million years.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 09:32:17 PM by Angelo222 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1584 on: June 10, 2020, 07:00:40 PM »
Even under unfavourable conditions, DNA can be good for 100 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48610168

Two young British privates killed in World War One have been buried more than 100 years later.

Pte Henry Wallington and Pte Frank Mead, of the 23rd (County of London) Battalion, were identified using DNA samples from relatives.

Their bodies and a body of another unidentified British soldier were found in a back garden in France when the owner dug a trench for a drainpipe.

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1585 on: June 10, 2020, 07:01:46 PM »
How long does DNA last on objects?

Scientists have estimated that under the most ideal conditions, DNA can theoretically survive for a maximum of one million years.
If DNA lasts a million years then Apartment 5 A would have been teaming with hundreds, if not thousands of DNA samples.  Were they all found and eliminated?
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 09:32:50 PM by Angelo222 »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1586 on: June 10, 2020, 07:02:44 PM »
Even under unfavourable conditions, DNA can be good for 100 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48610168

Two young British privates killed in World War One have been buried more than 100 years later.

Pte Henry Wallington and Pte Frank Mead, of the 23rd (County of London) Battalion, were identified using DNA samples from relatives.

Their bodies and a body of another unidentified British soldier were found in a back garden in France when the owner dug a trench for a drainpipe.
Yes, it’s always quite helpful to have the body from which to extract the dna in the first place. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1587 on: June 10, 2020, 07:05:56 PM »
Yes, it’s always quite helpful to have the body from which to extract the dna in the first place. 

You are wrong to state that DNA cannot last for 10 years. Do some research before trying to ridicule my posts. How did he abduct her?
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 09:33:42 PM by Angelo222 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1588 on: June 10, 2020, 07:08:10 PM »
Only one study this author is aware of directly addresses the persistence of touch DNA.  Raymond et al (2009) conducted an investigation into the persistence of DNA at crime scenes.  They applied known quantities of “buffy coat” DNA (the white blood cell and platelet layer of whole blood) to gloss-painted wooden window frames, pieces of vinyl (to simulate handbags), and control samples consisting of glass microscope slides.  Not surprisingly, they found that the chance of recovering DNA from an outdoor crime scene decreases significantly over time with two weeks being the major drop-off point for most of the samples.  The control samples fared much better, with full profiles able to be developed even after six weeks (the longest time period tested).

http://ryanforensicdna.com/touchdna/

Unless Madeleine was bleeding when placed into a vehicle it is unlikely she would have left more than touch DNA and the chances of finding that in a car 10+ years later are very very very remote.  Now lets have less of the namecalling please.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1589 on: June 10, 2020, 07:12:57 PM »
Yes, it’s always quite helpful to have the body from which to extract the dna in the first place.


Useful things, bodies - if you can find them.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future