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Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2040 on: June 14, 2020, 11:44:08 AM »
Are all of your Comments so ill informed?

It goes all ways doesn't it. I've posted sources a few days ago that you and a few others didn't bother to read but felt qualified to comment on.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2041 on: June 14, 2020, 11:47:36 AM »
It goes all ways doesn't it. I've posted sources a few days ago that you and a few others didn't bother to read but felt qualified to comment on.

Could I have a cite please, for my comments after failing to read.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2042 on: June 14, 2020, 11:55:32 AM »
Could I have a cite please, for my comments after failing to read.

no, I think I would have to go through about 30 pages, so that is my recollection IMO, do what you want with the posts.

EDIT no, I found it. I posted about the Misconduct hearing and you didn't read it.

''Quote from: Eleanor on June 10, 2020, 12:42:19 PM
Who's Misconduct?

I quoted this before. The Prosecutors.

'Flensburg public prosecutor's office are due to address parliament today about possible misconduct in the Christian B case, it is reported.

They will speak from 2 p.m. on Wednesday before the interior and legal committee of the state parliament, Bild reports.

According to Bild “the subject of the statement is the behaviour of the Flensburg public prosecutor's office in connection with the multiple convicted Christian B”.''
« Last Edit: June 14, 2020, 11:59:40 AM by Gertrude »

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2043 on: June 14, 2020, 12:06:57 PM »
its how just about evry missing child investigation works from what ive read. Its important asap to rule in or rule out the parents...clearing the ground beneath their feet they call it.

I have explained all that in words of one syllable unfortunately ... none so deaf etc 🙄
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2044 on: June 14, 2020, 12:14:10 PM »
no, I think I would have to go through about 30 pages, so that is my recollection IMO, do what you want with the posts.

EDIT no, I found it. I posted about the Misconduct hearing and you didn't read it.

''Quote from: Eleanor on June 10, 2020, 12:42:19 PM
Who's Misconduct?

I quoted this before. The Prosecutors.

'Flensburg public prosecutor's office are due to address parliament today about possible misconduct in the Christian B case, it is reported.

They will speak from 2 p.m. on Wednesday before the interior and legal committee of the state parliament, Bild reports.

According to Bild “the subject of the statement is the behaviour of the Flensburg public prosecutor's office in connection with the multiple convicted Christian B”.''

You haven't said Whose Misconduct.  Or is it all of them?  In which case who are they?

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2045 on: June 14, 2020, 12:14:27 PM »
So yet more confusion.  Is this being done deliberately?  Most of us can read.

I'm yet to be convinced there isn't a concerted effort underway to dumb down the forum.  Whatever one thinks of the current news from Germany it has certainly dropped the scales from some eyes and opened up new possibilities for others.
The fact it doesn't fit with some hardened prejudices doesn't go down well in some quarters.  But it will all come out in the wash. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2046 on: June 14, 2020, 12:16:54 PM »
You haven't said Whose Misconduct.  Or is it all of them?  In which case who are they?

If you go back there, I posted a link to the article, if you read it, it explains who's misconduct quite clearly. I said so at the time as well and you obviously didn't read it then, kept on insisting it was to do with Bruckners rape trial.

The same thing you accused me of doing with the camper van story, which I admitted but I was never rude about it.
It's really not that important is it?

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2047 on: June 14, 2020, 12:25:48 PM »
There is still a great deal of barrel-scraping going on, so forgive me If I don't read every bit of it in depth.
The information was posted on this thread this morning ... http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11585.msg599613#msg599613  complete with image.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2048 on: June 14, 2020, 12:36:18 PM »


That is not the post I responded to Brietta That is Misty's post, I responded to Barrier's. NO PICTURE, NOT THAT POST
No quote about what van unless you follow the link and scroll down.
  Why do you think someone is trying to dumb down the forum but 3 of you are getting very wound up about an article I admitted I didn't read properly?  You're putting the focus on it, not me.


'Its him alright what more do they want,the mail have tracked down an important witness.

Dieter, 65, a former ambulance driver, told The Mail on Sunday: ‘As I looked inside, I asked him: “Herr Brueckner, what do you do in Portugal? What is your job?” He told me: “I work, I get money, because I have a special business. I transport grass [cannabis] in my van.” I was surprised, I did not believe it exactly.

‘Brueckner told me again: “I have 50kg of grass, and I transport it around Europe.” I thought he was joking at the time. He said: “In my van, I can take 50kg of grass, nobody can see it.”

‘He told me: “I can transport children, kids, in this space. Drugs and children, you can transport them in this van, it’s a safe space in the van, nobody can find them. Nobody can catch you.” ’


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8418063/Prime-suspect-Madeleine-McCann-abduction-boasted-transport-children-campervan.html

Won't be long now for charges''
« Last Edit: June 14, 2020, 12:41:18 PM by Gertrude »

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2049 on: June 14, 2020, 12:38:03 PM »
Various people, including the head of CEOP, have accused the PJ of failing to clear the ground beneath their feet. So how were Operation Task and CEOP able to identify the crime before the end of May 2007? If they had evidence which ruled out the parents why wasn't it shared with the PJ? If they didn't have such evidence how could they decide what crime had been committed at that early stage? It seems to me that the police force leaping to conclusions early in the investigation was Op Task, not the PJ.

They were not allowed to 'share' anything with the Portuguese who it seems rather resented their presence.

I did provide a link to that effect ... but the expert witness I quoted didn't quite come up to your exacting standards.

I'm sure you will remember when you think about it. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11381.msg599396#msg599396
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2050 on: June 14, 2020, 12:48:31 PM »
I'm yet to be convinced there isn't a concerted effort underway to dumb down the forum.  Whatever one thinks of the current news from Germany it has certainly dropped the scales from some eyes and opened up new possibilities for others.
The fact it doesn't fit with some hardened prejudices doesn't go down well in some quarters.  But it will all come out in the wash.

It certainly has with the German investigator saying that the PJ still think the parents guilty of a role in their daughter’s disappearance...something some quarters have been telling us wasn’t true for years.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2051 on: June 14, 2020, 12:52:56 PM »
It certainly has with the German investigator saying that the PJ still think the parents guilty of a role in their daughter’s disappearance...something some quarters have been telling us wasn’t true for years.

the lead of the PJ ...Pedro da Carmo said no evidence..not suspects.   ...that hasnt changed afawk... What individual officers think ...due to their ignrance imo...is another story

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2052 on: June 14, 2020, 12:54:17 PM »
They were not allowed to 'share' anything with the Portuguese who it seems rather resented their presence.

I did provide a link to that effect ... but the expert witness I quoted didn't quite come up to your exacting standards.

I'm sure you will remember when you think about it. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11381.msg599396#msg599396

There were plenty of meetings between the PJ and British policemen. Stuart Prior seemed to be quite close to the heart of the investigation as did Bob Small, Chris Eyre and Jose Freitas. According to Amaral they had input, so if they had evidence ruling out the parents they had ample opportunity to share it.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2053 on: June 14, 2020, 01:00:31 PM »

That is not the post I responded to Brietta That is Misty's post, I responded to Barrier's. NO PICTURE, NOT THAT POST
No quote about what van unless you follow the link and scroll down.
  Why do you think someone is trying to dumb down the forum but 3 of you are getting very wound up about an article I admitted I didn't read properly?  You're putting the focus on it, not me.


'Its him alright what more do they want,the mail have tracked down an important witness.

Dieter, 65, a former ambulance driver, told The Mail on Sunday: ‘As I looked inside, I asked him: “Herr Brueckner, what do you do in Portugal? What is your job?” He told me: “I work, I get money, because I have a special business. I transport grass [cannabis] in my van.” I was surprised, I did not believe it exactly.

‘Brueckner told me again: “I have 50kg of grass, and I transport it around Europe.” I thought he was joking at the time. He said: “In my van, I can take 50kg of grass, nobody can see it.”

‘He told me: “I can transport children, kids, in this space. Drugs and children, you can transport them in this van, it’s a safe space in the van, nobody can find them. Nobody can catch you.” ’


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8418063/Prime-suspect-Madeleine-McCann-abduction-boasted-transport-children-campervan.html

Won't be long now for charges''

Misty posted that complete with picture only this morning.  The fact is that you did not read it and posted what I think is misleading information on the forum as a result.

I think it was Jassie who pointed out the value to the investigation of finding out exactly when he came by that particular vehicle.  It is possible the police are working on that as well as any other relevant information sent to them by the public.

It isn't about getting 'wound up' about anything ... it is about being as vigilant as possible about the accuracy of what is posted here.  Most members care about that very much and bearing in mind that we all make mistakes there should not be any problem when they are pointed out.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2054 on: June 14, 2020, 01:05:59 PM »
Misty posted that complete with picture only this morning.  The fact is that you did not read it and posted what I think is misleading information on the forum as a result.

I think it was Jassie who pointed out the value to the investigation of finding out exactly when he came by that particular vehicle.  It is possible the police are working on that as well as any other relevant information sent to them by the public.

It isn't about getting 'wound up' about anything ... it is about being as vigilant as possible about the accuracy of what is posted here.  Most members care about that very much and bearing in mind that we all make mistakes there should not be any problem when they are pointed out.

I didn't read a source properly Brietta. Neither did Davel or Eleanor 4 days ago when I posted about Misconduct
( which I showed) but no-one is jumping on them, that's my point. Different strokes for different folks IMO.
 
 So they were insisting the source I posted was about his rape trial when it wasn't, yet you only see my mistake as 'misleading'.