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Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2175 on: June 15, 2020, 10:05:51 PM »
'German prosecutors have written to Madeleine McCann’s parents to say that "getting the culprit is more important than putting our cards on the table".

Police in the northern city of Braunschweig are investigating the disappearance of the British three-year-old and have said they have “concrete evidence” she is dead.

But they have repeatedly refused to share specific details with her family of what the evidence is until they are able to charge their prime suspect, Christian Brückner.

Brückner was first publicly linked to Madeleine two weeks ago when Braunschweig police made an appeal for more information on his whereabouts the night she went missing.

The authorities are unable to charge the 43-year-old convicted paedophile with Madeleine’s murder with the evidence they currently have, but have insisted their case against him is “90 per cent” there.
'Police withhold proof of Madeleine McCann's 'death' from her parents

15 June 2020 • 9:34pm

Speaking in his Braunschweig office on Monday, Mr Wolters said: "We have written to the McCanns again because we are closely following and monitoring what has been going on in the media. We have really considered the fact that it is going to be very hard for the family when we tell them that we assume Madeleine is dead.

“But we can’t say why she is dead. It is more important that we are successful and we are able to get the culprit as opposed to just putting our cards on the table and tell them why we think she might be.

“I know it would be of relief to the parents to know how she died but it would hamper the investigation if we give away too much information."

Mr Wolters's correspondence to the McCanns came as their Portuguese lawyer Rogerio Alves demanded a meeting with police in Portugal in a bid to establish what new evidence there is that Madeleine is dead.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/15/madeleine-mccann-familys-lawyer-wants-portuguese-police-reveal/




Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2176 on: June 15, 2020, 10:22:44 PM »
He tried to show that even if the shutters were lifted they would fall back down. What he didnt realise was that by opening the widow it was possible to reach the strap which would keep the shutters open.

How did he open a locked window? You can only unlock it from the inside as fingerprints found there can prove.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2177 on: June 15, 2020, 10:25:06 PM »
Just noticed this bit from the Telegraph;

'Scotland Yard - which has been running a £12 million investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance since 2012 - issued misleading information on Brückner’s Jaguar in their appeal earlier this month it emerged on Monday. 

The force incorrectly claimed the vehicle was in Portugal at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance. However Mr Wolters confirmed it was in Germany by May 4, the day after Madeleine vanished, meaning it is unlikely that it could have been involved in the abduction.''

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2178 on: June 15, 2020, 10:51:19 PM »
How did he open a locked window? You can only unlock it from the inside as fingerprints found there can prove.
How do you know it was locked that night?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2179 on: June 15, 2020, 10:55:55 PM »
Just noticed this bit from the Telegraph;

'Scotland Yard - which has been running a £12 million investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance since 2012 - issued misleading information on Brückner’s Jaguar in their appeal earlier this month it emerged on Monday. 

The force incorrectly claimed the vehicle was in Portugal at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance. However Mr Wolters confirmed it was in Germany by May 4, the day after Madeleine vanished, meaning it is unlikely that it could have been involved in the abduction.''
Intriguing.  I wonder what time it was logged as arriving in Germany, and whereabouts.  It takes 26 hours to drive from PdL to Braunschweig according to AA Routeplanner.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2180 on: June 15, 2020, 11:09:00 PM »
As the disappearance was reported at around 10pm on 3 May 2007 the jag had nothing to do with the disappearance being in Germany on 4 May.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2181 on: June 15, 2020, 11:09:17 PM »
Intriguing.  I wonder what time it was logged as arriving in Germany, and whereabouts.  It takes 26 hours to drive from PdL to Braunschweig according to AA Routeplanner.

And who was driving?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2182 on: June 15, 2020, 11:11:26 PM »
As the disappearance was reported at around 10pm on 3 May 2007 the jag had nothing to do with the disappearance being in Germany on 4 May.
How do you know what time it was registered as being in Germany?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2183 on: June 15, 2020, 11:11:46 PM »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2184 on: June 15, 2020, 11:16:20 PM »
How do you know it was locked that night?

The cleaner who was there on 2 May is the witness to answer that question. I doubt cleaners leave window unlocked with small children inside. You would think the parents would have checked them unless they want anybody to enter as seems to be the myth in this case.

"But it did surprise me a bit with Kate, because I think, you know, she is, between her and Gerry, they are very different, she is very cautious, Gerry, erm, you know, is probably more sort of happy to, tut, relax and go with the flow and that sort of thing, Kate is very, very much more cautious."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2185 on: June 15, 2020, 11:20:54 PM »
The cleaner who was there on 2 May is the witness to answer that question. I doubt cleaners leave window unlocked with small children inside. You would think the parents would have checked them unless they want anybody to enter as seems to be the myth in this case.

"But it did surprise me a bit with Kate, because I think, you know, she is, between her and Gerry, they are very different, she is very cautious, Gerry, erm, you know, is probably more sort of happy to, tut, relax and go with the flow and that sort of thing, Kate is very, very much more cautious."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
So you’ve no idea, just speculating.  Thanks,
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2186 on: June 15, 2020, 11:22:42 PM »
From today’s Times

“German investigators believe that Christian Brückner killed Madeleine shortly after abducting her from a holiday apartment in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in May 2007.

Yesterday they said that they were looking for links to an incident involving a ten-year-old British girl in the same resort in 2005, the year Brückner raped a woman at a villa near by.

Police know of nine sexual assaults and three attempts against British girls between the ages of six and 12 on holiday in the area between 2004 and 2006”.

These are the sexual assaults that members of this forum believed were invented by “Team McCann” if I recall correctly.  Why are the German police investigating fictional assaults then, can anyone explain?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2187 on: June 15, 2020, 11:27:49 PM »
So you’ve no idea, just speculating.  Thanks,

That is evidence from witnesses. A very cautious person does the opposite. Why? They all thought it was a very safe place but as soon as Madeleine disappeared the father is shouting evil pedos did it? None of this adds up as any sane person should know. There is a reason for all this contradictory behaviour!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline VIXTE

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2188 on: June 15, 2020, 11:35:46 PM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53043818

Portuguese police say the German evidence against the new suspect in the Madeleine McCann case is "significant".

A senior police source also told the BBC they were keen to cooperate in the investigation into the disappearance of the British girl in Portugal in 2007.

The new suspect is a 43-year-old German man, named in reports as Christian B, who is in prison in Germany.

He was revealed as the main suspect earlier this month, as German and UK police made a fresh appeal for help.

The convicted paedophile is believed to have been in the area where Madeleine, aged three, was last seen while on holiday in Portugal.


A senior Portuguese police source, who has seen the German evidence against Christian B, has told the BBC it is "very important" and "significant".

The source also rejected criticism that their procedures were slow, amid reports that the German authorities have privately been critical of their Portuguese counterparts.

Another source close to the investigation said Portuguese police accepted that Christian B was now a suspect.

Asked whether they had access to his previous convictions for child sexual offences at the time of Madeleine's disappearance, he said it was important not to judge the past with the benefit of hindsight, and that police systems since then had changed.


Some of those who knew the German suspect during his time in Portugal have criticised the investigation as "very slow", telling the BBC that they were only approached by police - either British or Portuguese - in the past year or two.

Several people remembered Christian B as angry and untrustworthy, with one neighbour saying he squatted in a nearby house without paying rent, and left it "ransacked" in a terrible state when he departed, two years before Madeleine's disappearance.


Analysis
By BBC news correspondent Lucy Williamson, in Praia da Luz

When German police - newcomers to the Madeleine McCann investigation - announced they had evidence that indicated the toddler was dead, it seemed to get a cautious response from their Portuguese and British counterparts.

British police stuck to their line that it was a "missing person inquiry", and the impression from Portuguese media was that their own tight-lipped authorities were staying open-minded.

This first-hand confirmation from a senior Portuguese police source that the German evidence is "very important" and "significant" is a sign of how seriously this new development is being taken there.

There's been plenty of mutual recrimination between the British and Portuguese forces in the 13 years since Madeleine McCann vanished from her family's holiday apartment.

Now a third country has entered the quest for answers.

Awkward? Maybe. But the German evidence, it seems, is convincing enough for the Portuguese police to signal their support.

After living for so long under the pressure of unanswered questions, they won't want to be left out of a development that might promise some answers.

German prosecutors have previously said they have evidence that leads them to believe Christian B killed Madeleine, but it wasn't strong enough to take him to court.

Police say the suspect was regularly living in the Algarve in Portugal between 1995 and 2007 and had jobs in the area, including in catering, but also committed burglaries in hotels and dealt drugs.

The suspect is currently serving a jail term in Kiel, Schleswig-Holstein, for drug-dealing, having been extradited from Portugal in July 2017.

He is believed to have been in the Praia da Luz area in May 2007, when Madeleine went missing while on a family holiday with her parents and siblings.

In December 2019, the man was sentenced to seven years for raping a 72-year-old American woman in the same Portuguese resort in 2005.

The Metropolitan Police, who are working with their German and Portuguese counterparts, have said the case remained a "missing persons" investigation in the UK because there was no "definitive evidence" as to whether Madeleine was alive or not.

Madeleine went missing shortly before her fourth birthday from an apartment in Praia da Luz, while her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, were with friends at a nearby tapas bar.

Her disappearance sparked a huge and costly police hunt across much of Europe - the most recent Met Police investigation, which began in 2011, has cost more than £11m.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2189 on: June 15, 2020, 11:43:37 PM »
That is evidence from witnesses. A very cautious person does the opposite. Why? They all thought it was a very safe place but as soon as Madeleine disappeared the father is shouting evil pedos did it? None of this adds up as any sane person should know. There is a reason for all this contradictory behaviour!
Do “very cautious” people leave their kids unattended in an unlocked apartment?  And then parade through the streets of a holiday village carrying a dead body?  How about they thought it was locked but the cleaner left it unlocked accidentally or deliberately?  Now tell me that’s simply impossible!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".