New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Carana]

If this is accurate, there seems to be a bit of friction between the forces. Inevitable, I suppose.


Madeleine McCann: Family lawyer urges British, German and Portuguese police to stop squabbling
Rogerio Alves told Sky News the German prosecutor should tell Madeleine McCann's parents what evidence he has that she is dead.
Martin Brunt - Crime correspondent
Martin Brunt

Crime correspondent @skymartinbrunt

Friday 12 June 2020 21:00, UK

    Madeleine McCann


Madeleine McCann's family lawyer has urged the three police forces investigating her disappearance to stop squabbling between themselves.

Rogerio Alves told Sky News: "This is not the Champions League between police departments. We are wasting time and we are spreading energy instead of co-operating."


There appears to be increasing tension between the German, Portuguese and British police about who knew what and when about the new prime suspect Christian B, who is being held in a prison near Hamburg.
The McCann family lawyer thinks police forces should cooperate more

McCann family lawyer thinks police are wasting time

The Portuguese police say his name was on a list of hundreds of potential suspects handed to the Metropolitan Police in 2012 when the force was preparing its own investigation, but Scotland Yard didn't act on the information.

A German prosecutor insists he has evidence Madeleine is dead and has launched a murder investigation, while Scotland Yard says it still considers Madeleine a missing person.

The German prosecutor also suggested the Portuguese authorities still held her parents Kate and Gerry - who they once considered suspects - responsible for her disappearance. And he said relations with the Portuguese were "cumbersome".

Mr Alves said: "It would be a much stronger investigation if everybody is pushing from the same side. I don't even like to talk about the danger of competition in police because there is something much more important that has to be considered.

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-family-lawyer-urges-british-german-and-portuguese-police-to-stop-squabbling-12005556

[Carana]

Why would anyone enter via unlocked door then unlock a window from the inside and leave through a window without leaving any evidence of having done so?

That hasn't been established as fact AFAIK.

[Carana]

Pondering something.

The Met mentioned however many assaults on UK children. Either one or more paedos were only interested in UK kids for some reason, or forces from other countries haven't released info on kids from their own.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why would anyone enter via unlocked door then unlock a window from the inside and leave through a window without leaving any evidence of having done so?

Why not? I didn’t say they left via the window anyway.  Perhaps they opened it to listen, or to visually check, or to let light in, or to communicate with someone outside, or to hand a child through.  Who knows how the brain of a paedo burglar works?  Why would anyone not leave any evidence behind?  Well I’d ave thought that was obvious..,

[Carana]

Starting to rule him out of other crimes it seem's.

But prosecutor Thomas Kramer confirmed to FOCUS Online there is 'no concrete suspicion, no hot streak.

'His Mobile phone was not logged into the crime scene area. We have no concrete evidence that he was in the immediate vicinity of the crime scene on the day of the crime.'

The prosecutor said Christian B had already been investigated 'comprehensively and intensively'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8422095/Portuguese-police-prepare-search-wells-prime-suspect-Christian-Brueckners-Praia-da-Luz-villa.html

I thought there was an assumption that one of the two numbers released was his. Was the point of the witness appeal to try to verify that?

Not clear which mobile phone he's talking about - one that he has now? He might have had a different one at the time.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I thought there was an assumption that one of the two numbers released was his. Was the point of the witness appeal to try to verify that?

Not clear which mobile phone he's talking about - one that he has now? He might have had a different one at the time.

Barrier’s quote is about a crime involving another missing child.

[Carana]

Barrier’s quote is about a crime involving another missing child.

Ah. Thanks.

[barrier]

I'm afraid the Irish Mirror has got things a bit mixed up. The source of the saliva stain was identified early on, it was not found on her bedspread and wasn't at all linked to anyone in the family - it belonged to the baby son of previous holidaymakers (so obviously not Christian B).

And there was no blood found in the flat.

I have no problem with the INML's capabilities, but they can only test (or retest) what they were given. Now if they could just lay their hands on those missing strands of hair...

There wasn't ?

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_EDDIE-KEELA.htm

[jassi]

I'm afraid the Irish Mirror has got things a bit mixed up. The source of the saliva stain was identified early on, it was not found on her bedspread and wasn't at all linked to anyone in the family - it belonged to the baby son of previous holidaymakers (so obviously not Christian B).

And there was no blood found in the flat.

I have no problem with the INML's capabilities, but they can only test (or retest) what they were given. Now if they could just lay their hands on those missing strands of hair...

We are subject to so much information that is either confusing or just incorrect that it is difficult to know what is true.
 Maybe the stain report wasn't quite correct - who knows ?

[Mr Gray]

And.....A video might require translation, or you could say English isn't his first language...It would be ridiculous for anyone to try and suggest 100% accuracy from a transcribed interview, so I didn't. There is context there if you read it.
 If you think it's likely him saying 3 times in the same interview there are 'no facts' is made up or by chance you are being unreasonable IMO.

'I have no facts for this.'

I't was only a personal... without facts.'

'but there are no facts for this.'

From the Mail today...appears to be  a direct quote...


‘I sympathise with the parents but if we reveal more details to them it might jeopardise the investigation,’ he said.

‘We have concrete evidence that our suspect has killed Madeleine and this means she is dead.


I think its reasonable to think the Germans may well have something concrete...which would be  a major...major ...breakthrough.

[Brietta]

I'm afraid the Irish Mirror has got things a bit mixed up. The source of the saliva stain was identified early on, it was not found on her bedspread and wasn't at all linked to anyone in the family - it belonged to the baby son of previous holidaymakers (so obviously not Christian B).

And there was no blood found in the flat.

I have no problem with the INML's capabilities, but they can only test (or retest) what they were given. Now if they could just lay their hands on those missing strands of hair...

I think the misunderstandings about DNA have rumbled on for about thirteen years.

There would be no significance attached to finding Madeleine's DNA in the apartment.  She did live there.

The significance lies in a match being made to unidentified foreign DNA left behind by an individual who had no business to be on the premises ... and the missing hairs could tell their own story.

[barrier]

Intriguing.  I wonder what time it was logged as arriving in Germany, and whereabouts.  It takes 26 hours to drive from PdL to Braunschweig according to AA Routeplanner.

So some time after midnight into Saturday the 5th,not the next day,so that can be ruled out on that time line.

[Brietta]

We are subject to so much information that is either confusing or just incorrect that it is difficult to know what is true.
 Maybe the stain report wasn't quite correct - who knows ?

There is no doubt that the German suspect's phone was activated in Luz just before Madeleine disappeared  https://www.devonlive.com/news/uk-world-news/madeleine-mccann-new-suspect-case-4190666
It is my understanding British Engineers made a record of all relevant phone calls made in the area at the relevant time ... his included ... but he wasn't checked out because at that time although a criminal he was not known as a sex offender.

I wonder if that is why the burglars had to be interviewed in 2014 by Scotland Yard ... if they were known criminals they did not match the profile the investigation had decided to pursue.

[Gertrude]

Now the prosecutor is saying he didn't tell the mirror what he allegedly told them....

( obviously this is translated too).

https://regionalheute.de/braunschweig/maddie-mccann-doch-nicht-tot-britische-zeitung-feuert-gegen-braunschweiger-ermittler-1592226745/

'Unfortunately I can't tell you where the 'Mirror' got its information from, but it's not mine," explains Wolters. Although he had spoken to a newspaper reporter, he could assure him that he had not made such statements. We still have evidence-based evidence that the suspect killed Madeleine McCann. So this is not my private opinion, but the result of the previous investigation, "Wolters clarifies and adds:" However, we do not have forensic evidence of Maddie's death. "......

......The evidence against the murder suspect Christian B. is valid, but would not be sufficient for an indictment. Here, too, false information about the actual evidence would appear to be circulating: "Apparently the lack of real information leads to previous statements being reinterpreted," notes Wolters. No information could be given at all about the amount and completeness of the evidence, "because it is simply not possible at all. I have only communicated that there is as yet no sufficient suspicion of crime. Such is the case if the likelihood of a conviction is greater than that Probability of acquittal, "concludes Public Prosecutor Wolters.

No sufficient suspicion of a crime? But 'concrete' evidence she is dead?...and what previous investigation does he mean?

[G-Unit]

From the Mail today...appears to be  a direct quote...


‘I sympathise with the parents but if we reveal more details to them it might jeopardise the investigation,’ he said.

‘We have concrete evidence that our suspect has killed Madeleine and this means she is dead.


I think its reasonable to think the Germans may well have something concrete...which would be  a major...major ...breakthrough.

If the Germans do have concrete evidence that Madeleine was killed then they can't tell anyone what it is. They probably need to use it to confront their suspect in due course, so they can't risk it getting out into the public arena. I can understand the McCanns wanting to know, but as intelligent people I would expect them to understand why they can't be told.