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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2220 on: June 16, 2020, 10:32:15 AM »
If the Germans do have concrete evidence that Madeleine was killed then they can't tell anyone what it is. They probably need to use it to confront their suspect in due course, so they can't risk it getting out into the public arena. I can understand the McCanns wanting to know, but as intelligent people I would expect them to understand why they can't be told.

Its probably only known to her killer,so they can't reveal.
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Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2221 on: June 16, 2020, 10:44:47 AM »
I find it odd that some people seem to think that they occupy the moral high ground because they refuse to countenance the possibility that Madeleine was abducted and killed by a pardophile and that anyone who does think it’s likely this German paedo guy did it is somehow happy about it.


- since when does devastated mean happy.

« Last Edit: June 16, 2020, 11:13:15 AM by Brietta »

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2222 on: June 16, 2020, 11:12:45 AM »
If the Germans do have concrete evidence that Madeleine was killed then they can't tell anyone what it is. They probably need to use it to confront their suspect in due course, so they can't risk it getting out into the public arena. I can understand the McCanns wanting to know, but as intelligent people I would expect them to understand why they can't be told.

They almost certainly do.


Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2224 on: June 16, 2020, 12:18:13 PM »
From the Mail today...appears to be  a direct quote...


‘I sympathise with the parents but if we reveal more details to them it might jeopardise the investigation,’ he said.

‘We have concrete evidence that our suspect has killed Madeleine and this means she is dead.



I think its reasonable to think the Germans may well have something concrete...which would be  a major...major ...breakthrough.
I agree, Davel. I think German police may refer to images of child abuse etc on a USB stick they found hidden under animal bones at a box factory in 2016 when they were looking for Inga Gehrike. Brückner had lived in his caravan at this box factory in Germany in 2016. Perhaps images of Madeleine were found on this stick which make them say they have proof of death but no forensic evidence in the sense of physical evidence?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8394855/Christian-Brueckner-linked-FOURTH-unsolved-case.html

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2225 on: June 16, 2020, 12:24:21 PM »
Starting to rule him out of other crimes it seem's.

But prosecutor Thomas Kramer confirmed to FOCUS Online there is 'no concrete suspicion, no hot streak.

'His Mobile phone was not logged into the crime scene area. We have no concrete evidence that he was in the immediate vicinity of the crime scene on the day of the crime.'

The prosecutor said Christian B had already been investigated 'comprehensively and intensively'.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8422095/Portuguese-police-prepare-search-wells-prime-suspect-Christian-Brueckners-Praia-da-Luz-villa.html

I agree, Davel. I think German police may refer to images of child abuse etc on a USB stick they found hidden under animal bones at a box factory in 2016 when they were looking for Inga Gehrike. Brückner had lived in his caravan at this box factory in Germany in 2016. Perhaps images of Madeleine were found on this stick which make them say they have proof of death but no forensic evidence in the sense of physical evidence?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8394855/Christian-Brueckner-linked-FOURTH-unsolved-case.html

My post above talks of no evidence to link him to Gehrike.

The German may be in clear over missing Inga Gehricke, who vanished in 2015
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Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2226 on: June 16, 2020, 12:26:22 PM »
It was reported a letter was sent to the McCanns that said police had 'concrete' evidence she was dead.
This was all over The Mail, Sky news, Mirror etc, but apparently it is not true.

'Madeleine McCann parents: Reports we received letter from German authorities about her death 'false'
Kate and Gerry McCann said the reports had "caused unnecessary anxiety to friends and family and once again disrupted our lives"
In a statement, Kate and Gerry McCann said the reports had "caused unnecessary anxiety to friends and family and once again disrupted our lives".

"The widely reported news that we have a received a letter from the German authorities that states there is evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead is FALSE," they wrote.
"As we have stated many times before, we will not give a running commentary on the investigation - that is the job of the law enforcement agencies and we will support them in any way requested."

It had been reported that a German prosecutor had written to the McCanns telling them he has "concrete evidence" that Madeleine is dead.

It was claimed that Hans Christian Wolters had told the parents that he has no doubt their daughter is dead, but he refused to tell them why.

He reportedly told them that to reveal the evidence would jeopardise his investigation into the German suspect known as Christian B.''.

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-parents-reports-german-authorities-sent-us-letter-about-her-death-false-12007820

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2227 on: June 16, 2020, 12:28:42 PM »
So what is they are denying? - That they received a letter, or that the alleged content was false ?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2228 on: June 16, 2020, 12:31:43 PM »
https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-parents-reports-german-authorities-sent-us-letter-about-her-death-false-12007820

This is now such a mess.

Personally, I think that The Germans are fighting their corner over what might have been an internationally incorrect extradition from Italy over a crime committed in Portugal by a German National.

I simply don't know.  But The Germans aren't giving up on their decision easily.  Madeleine McCann is a side issue that isn't of any great importance to The Germans.  Actually, it is disgraceful to use a small child and her family in this fashion.

Meanwhile, Bruckner will remain in prison.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2229 on: June 16, 2020, 12:34:24 PM »
So what is they are denying? - That they received a letter, or that the alleged content was false ?

Do you think that The McCanns are fibbing?

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2230 on: June 16, 2020, 12:38:27 PM »
So what is they are denying? - That they received a letter, or that the alleged content was false ?

I think it could be either. The papers were claiming the letter contained 'concrete' proof. If that was true it doesn't fit with the prosecutor saying he's not divulging evidence to the family.

Another interesting thing is that they have said apparently they have no spokesperson OR
paid lawyer at the moment. So the quotes in the press from Clarence and their lawyer are all false too?


Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2231 on: June 16, 2020, 12:38:47 PM »
'German prosecutors have written to Madeleine McCann’s parents to say that "getting the culprit is more important than putting our cards on the table".

Police in the northern city of Braunschweig are investigating the disappearance of the British three-year-old and have said they have “concrete evidence” she is dead.

But they have repeatedly refused to share specific details with her family of what the evidence is until they are able to charge their prime suspect, Christian Brückner.

Brückner was first publicly linked to Madeleine two weeks ago when Braunschweig police made an appeal for more information on his whereabouts the night she went missing.

The authorities are unable to charge the 43-year-old convicted paedophile with Madeleine’s murder with the evidence they currently have, but have insisted their case against him is “90 per cent” there.
'Police withhold proof of Madeleine McCann's 'death' from her parents

15 June 2020 • 9:34pm

Speaking in his Braunschweig office on Monday, Mr Wolters said: "We have written to the McCanns again because we are closely following and monitoring what has been going on in the media. We have really considered the fact that it is going to be very hard for the family when we tell them that we assume Madeleine is dead.

“But we can’t say why she is dead. It is more important that we are successful and we are able to get the culprit as opposed to just putting our cards on the table and tell them why we think she might be.

“I know it would be of relief to the parents to know how she died but it would hamper the investigation if we give away too much information."

Mr Wolters's correspondence to the McCanns came as their Portuguese lawyer Rogerio Alves demanded a meeting with police in Portugal in a bid to establish what new evidence there is that Madeleine is dead.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/15/madeleine-mccann-familys-lawyer-wants-portuguese-police-reveal/

According to the parents they have had no correspondence with the German police.

Kate & Gerry McCann Statement: June 16th 2020
Since the recent police appeals regarding Madeleine’s disappearance there have been many inaccurate stories reported in the media. The widely reported news that we have a received a letter from the German authorities that states there is evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead is FALSE. Like many unsubstantiated stories in the media, this has caused unnecessary anxiety to friends and family and once again disrupted our lives.
As we have stated many times before, we will not give a running commentary on the investigation- that is the job of the law enforcement agencies and we will support them in any way requested. Furthermore, we do not have a family spokesperson nor are we actively paying any lawyers. Any recent comments attributed in the media have not come from us unless they have been posted on our website. If there are important developments that can be made public, they will be issued through official police channels.
Kate and Gerry

Apologies I now see that this has been posted already.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2020, 12:42:21 PM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2232 on: June 16, 2020, 12:49:49 PM »
Do you think that The McCanns are fibbing?

No. Suggesting that they are being ambiguous.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2233 on: June 16, 2020, 12:50:40 PM »
My post above talks of no evidence to link him to Gehrike.

The German may be in clear over missing Inga Gehricke, who vanished in 2015
It was reported that Brückner had a small car accident in the vicinity and Inga disappeared the next day.

‘According to Küllmei, on 1 May Brückner was involved in a minor traffic accident at a car park on the A2 motorway, about 100 kilometres from the spot where Inga went missing the next day’.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/05/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-being-investigated-over-second-missing-girl
« Last Edit: June 16, 2020, 01:08:13 PM by Anthro »

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2234 on: June 16, 2020, 12:53:28 PM »
It was reported that Brückner had a small car accident in the vicinity, on the day that Inga disappeared.

Reported by whom ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future