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Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2490 on: June 17, 2020, 10:13:19 PM »
I don't think I am... According  to Portuguese journalist interviewing amaral most Portuguese  don't think she's guilty

A Portuguese journalist.....wow. Has he carried out a poll ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2491 on: June 17, 2020, 10:42:44 PM »
A Portuguese journalist.....wow. Has he carried out a poll ?
Yeah!  He asked his parrot.
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Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2492 on: June 17, 2020, 10:49:21 PM »
I doubt a suspect has to be charged before being questioned

Questioned before an investigative judge. I've explained this before. There is no legal obligation for a suspect to attend police questioning ( which Bruckner reportedly didn't in 2013). The suspect can't refuse to be questioned by a judge but charges would be needed.

' If you are invited by the police for questioning, you are not obliged to appear. You are obliged to appear if you receive a summons from the public prosecutor or a judge.'

https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_rights_of_victims_of_crime_in_criminal_proceedings-171-DE-maximizeMS-en.do?clang=en&idSubpage=1&member=1



Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2493 on: June 17, 2020, 11:14:39 PM »
I think his suspicion ( as in enough to open an investigation in legal terms) is concrete. As in that threshold has been met. He can base his suspicion on someone's profile and the possibility they were in the area.

Yes, a bit like circumstantial evidence, not physical evidence or witness to place him at the crime scene committing the murder/abduction
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2494 on: June 18, 2020, 12:51:40 AM »
Meantime, the press has been full of every kind of lurid unsolved murder possible, suggesting Brückner could have been responsible for any or all of them.

This is despite there being nothing more than circumstantial evidence at best, or indeed no evidence at all, to link him to the cases.

The Resident has spoken to people who remember Brückner from the early 2000s, and while they attest to him being “very weird” and giving off the impression that “there was something not quite right about him”, there was nothing to suggest he was a predatory serial killer.

Nonetheless, mainstream media is adamant that German investigators believe they have their man.


https://www.portugalresident.com/maddie-suspect-denies-involvement-in-case/
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2495 on: June 18, 2020, 01:06:10 AM »
Questioned before an investigative judge. I've explained this before. There is no legal obligation for a suspect to attend police questioning ( which Bruckner reportedly didn't in 2013). The suspect can't refuse to be questioned by a judge but charges would be needed.

' If you are invited by the police for questioning, you are not obliged to appear. You are obliged to appear if you receive a summons from the public prosecutor or a judge.'

https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_rights_of_victims_of_crime_in_criminal_proceedings-171-DE-maximizeMS-en.do?clang=en&idSubpage=1&member=1

Not sure how a Judge can force him to answer.

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2496 on: June 18, 2020, 05:34:35 AM »
‘One saliva sample found on Madeleine’s bedspread was ruled out because it belonged to a boy who previously stayed in the apartment.

Sources say it is a second saliva sample, reportedly found on the youngster’s pillow, that German authorities want to test’.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccann-police-clash-over-22210667

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2497 on: June 18, 2020, 07:04:10 AM »
‘One saliva sample found on Madeleine’s bedspread was ruled out because it belonged to a boy who previously stayed in the apartment.

Sources say it is a second saliva sample, reportedly found on the youngster’s pillow, that German authorities want to test’.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccann-police-clash-over-22210667

Only one piece of cloth collected,no mention of any other from a bed.

1 piece of cloth in envelope no. 5 recovered from the bedspread of the bed next to the window in the children's bedroom.
Fragment of cloth, mauve/violet in colour with square motifs, circular in form about 10cm in diameter. A small fluorescent spot is observed under a Crime-light.


https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm



- Profile identified by letter "L", present in the spot on the bedspread of the bed next to the window and in seven hairs, meaning that all these samples came from the same person or from someone having the same maternal bloodline, did not match any of the reference samples.

- Nature of the sample

Phadebas Forensic test, for detection of saliva on the fragment of cloth corresponding to vestigio n'. 5 collected from the counterpane of the bed next to the window of the children's bedroom.


CONCLUSIONS

First: In total in the two phases of the case there were 25 reference samples and 447 vestiges studied: 1 spot on the counterpane; 2 objects from the car boot and 444 hairs. The macro- and microscopic analyses of the 444 hairs revealed that 432 were humano and 12 non-human, no result being obtained for 98 hairs and only partial results for l9 hairs. With respect to the plastic object from the car boot no results were obtained.

Second: The search for saliva in the mark on the counterpane from one of the beds in apartament 5A of tourist resort Ocean Club was positive.


The Mirror must know of a sample not taken.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2020, 07:26:30 AM by barrier »
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2498 on: June 18, 2020, 07:48:46 AM »
Questioned before an investigative judge. I've explained this before. There is no legal obligation for a suspect to attend police questioning ( which Bruckner reportedly didn't in 2013). The suspect can't refuse to be questioned by a judge but charges would be needed.

' If you are invited by the police for questioning, you are not obliged to appear. You are obliged to appear if you receive a summons from the public prosecutor or a judge.'

https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_rights_of_victims_of_crime_in_criminal_proceedings-171-DE-maximizeMS-en.do?clang=en&idSubpage=1&member=1

As Ive said you dont need to be charged before being questioned as a suspect. Afaiaa every suspect has the right to silence in just about any civilised country. You quote doesnt  support questioning by a judge...Ive never heard of a judge questioning a suspect...it refers to a summons for by a judge for questioning...similar to a warant for an arrest I would think.
Your link seems to be referring to being a witness..not a suspect

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2499 on: June 18, 2020, 08:20:37 AM »
‘One saliva sample found on Madeleine’s bedspread was ruled out because it belonged to a boy who previously stayed in the apartment.

Sources say it is a second saliva sample, reportedly found on the youngster’s pillow, that German authorities want to test’.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccann-police-clash-over-22210667

The Mail are only talking of the one sample.

The rags can't even get it straight between them.

Police at war over Madeleine McCann DNA evidence as Portuguese REFUSE 'arrogant' German request to retest saliva sample found on her bed spread to see if it matches prime suspect

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8433555/Portuguese-police-blast-Madeleine-McCann-officers-Germany-arrogant.html
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2500 on: June 18, 2020, 08:25:27 AM »
‘One saliva sample found on Madeleine’s bedspread was ruled out because it belonged to a boy who previously stayed in the apartment.

Sources say it is a second saliva sample, reportedly found on the youngster’s pillow, that German authorities want to test’.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccann-police-clash-over-22210667

I think the Mirror has got it wrong... again.

The only saliva stain on her pillow (in the files) was from her bed in Rothley, which was used to establish her presumptive DNA profile.

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2501 on: June 18, 2020, 08:39:17 AM »
I think the Mirror has got it wrong... again.

The only saliva stain on her pillow (in the files) was from her bed in Rothley, which was used to establish her presumptive DNA profile.
The Germans might have found some unknown DNA on Brueckner's clothing or possessions which they think could belong to Madeleine.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2502 on: June 18, 2020, 08:42:22 AM »
Another short report from Spiegel TV... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yifTRpSfz-g
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2503 on: June 18, 2020, 08:43:02 AM »
I think the Mirror has got it wrong... again.

The only saliva stain on her pillow (in the files) was from her bed in Rothley, which was used to establish her presumptive DNA profile.

That's what I thought.  The pillow case in Portugal was sent to the laundry the next day.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2504 on: June 18, 2020, 08:46:33 AM »
As Ive said you dont need to be charged before being questioned as a suspect. Afaiaa every suspect has the right to silence in just about any civilised country. You quote doesnt  support questioning by a judge...Ive never heard of a judge questioning a suspect...it refers to a summons for by a judge for questioning...similar to a warant for an arrest I would think.
Your link seems to be referring to being a witness..not a suspect

In France The Judge de Instruction does have the right to question suspects.  Not sure what happens if the suspect refuses to answer.