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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2880 on: June 20, 2020, 10:11:23 PM »
I don't think that is a good enough reason to rule out abduction. Month old babies and 2 year old toddlers have been subjected to paedophile interest and abuse.

No one is ruling out a sexually motivated abduction just pointing out that paedophiles are not USUALLY attracted to children as young as MM.  Of course some are attracted to babies and children younger than MM.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2881 on: June 20, 2020, 10:13:56 PM »
No one is ruling out a sexually motivated abduction just pointing out that paedophiles are not USUALLY attracted to children as young as MM.  Of course some are attracted to babies and children younger than MM.
But it's, quite, possible..

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2882 on: June 20, 2020, 10:16:49 PM »
No one is ruling out a sexually motivated abduction just pointing out that paedophiles are not USUALLY attracted to children as young as MM.  Of course some are attracted to babies and children younger than MM.
So how does this observation further the discussion?  Does it rule out my theory?  That appears to have been your intention - to cast doubt on its plausibility.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2020, 10:25:04 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2883 on: June 20, 2020, 10:20:44 PM »
Perhaps he's cleverer than some give him credit for.

As a non-policeman, how & why would he have been party to detailed information in April 2019 about charges in Germany which hadn't yet been laid?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2884 on: June 20, 2020, 10:24:09 PM »
based on the fact he was acriminal and these sort of people make it their business to get to know people. Based on the fact he was  a drug dealer and a large proportion of the demographic of the OC restaurant and bar staff use drugs...based on the fact he worked in the catering industry.

So even if the few OC employees who were familiar with the Mc's nighttime MO were acquainted with CB then what? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2885 on: June 20, 2020, 10:29:05 PM »
No one is ruling out a sexually motivated abduction just pointing out that paedophiles are not USUALLY attracted to children as young as MM.  Of course some are attracted to babies and children younger than MM.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/aug/24/childprotection

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2886 on: June 20, 2020, 10:29:48 PM »
So even if the few OC employees who were familiar with the Mc's nighttime MO were acquainted with CB then what?
Then it means he could have received a tip off to his advantage.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2887 on: June 20, 2020, 10:29:56 PM »
So how does this observation further the discussion?

It simply makes it less likely but not impossible.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2888 on: June 20, 2020, 10:33:19 PM »
Then it means he could have received a tip off to his advantage.

I think PJ and MET had OC employees under the microscope.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2889 on: June 20, 2020, 10:39:15 PM »
I’m not for a moment claiming it’s the case here but most sexual abuse of young children is perpetrated by close family members or friends. It’s a sad fact. 😢 . Does that fact rule out the German sex offender? No, of course not. Was Smithman the German sex offender? Well he doesn’t fit the description. Why was Smithman not publicised by “a source close to the family”? I’m totally baffled by this!
I agree that CB was neither Smithman nor Tannerman.
It's always worth re-reading the press reports during 2007/8 regarding the Smith family statements and appreciating that, despite having been bound by judicial secrecy, news about their alleged sighting reached Irish media within a week of their 26th May statements to PJ. The emphases, of course, were the similarities with the Tanner sighting & confirmation the man wasn't Murat.
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id162.htm

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2890 on: June 20, 2020, 10:46:29 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/aug/24/childprotection

The article states paedophiles are attracted to pre verbal babies/children because of their inability to describe their abuse.

The article also states a point I've been endeavouring to make:

He added that the middle classes had to start accepting that large numbers of paedophiles came from professional backgrounds.

A middle class man in all probability knew MM was home alone in the unsecured apartment.  A middle class man was only metres away from MM a short while before she disappeared.  Afaik that middle class man has never even been spoken to by the police.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2891 on: June 20, 2020, 10:50:58 PM »
The article states paedophiles are attracted to pre verbal babies/children because of their inability to describe their abuse.

The article also states a point I've been endeavouring to make:

He added that the middle classes had to start accepting that large numbers of paedophiles came from professional backgrounds.

A middle class man in all probability knew MM was home alone in the unsecured apartment.  A middle class man was only metres away from MM a short while before she disappeared.  Afaik that middle class man has never even been spoken to by the police.

And I recall the only time the police took advice from an expert on the type of person they should look for was in the Colin Stagg case... They were so reliant on the experts advice they even got Stagg into court
« Last Edit: June 20, 2020, 10:54:06 PM by Davel »

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2892 on: June 20, 2020, 10:52:23 PM »
I’m not for a moment claiming it’s the case here but most sexual abuse of young children is perpetrated by close family members or friends. It’s a sad fact. 😢 . Does that fact rule out the German sex offender? No, of course not. Was Smithman the German sex offender? Well he doesn’t fit the description. Why was Smithman not publicised by “a source close to the family”? I’m totally baffled by this!

I might be misunderstanding but if you're saying 'Smithman' isn't on FM site, he is. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2893 on: June 20, 2020, 10:58:02 PM »
And I recall the only time the police took advice from an expert on the type of person they should look for wad in the Colin Stagg case... They were so reliant on the experts advice they even got Stagg into court

I don't really understand what your point is Davel.

I think CS was on Wimbledon Common around the time RN was murdered.  WC covers a large area.  A middle class man was in very close proximity to 5A shortly before MM disappeared but said man Afaik has never been treated as a suspect.  The police need to be clearing the ground beneath their feet before looking further afield.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2894 on: June 20, 2020, 11:02:22 PM »
The article states paedophiles are attracted to pre verbal babies/children because of their inability to describe their abuse.

The article also states a point I've been endeavouring to make:

He added that the middle classes had to start accepting that large numbers of paedophiles came from professional backgrounds.

A middle class man in all probability knew MM was home alone in the unsecured apartment.  A middle class man was only metres away from MM a short while before she disappeared.  Afaik that middle class man has never even been spoken to by the police.
So now you’ve decided Madeleine WAS targeted by a paedo, only your paedo has to be middle class! 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".