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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3090 on: June 22, 2020, 11:59:35 PM »
Amaral describes Brückner as “the perfect suspect”.  Why do you think he calls him that?

IMO, it's because he was a sex offender living in or around PDL in the spring of 2007. No-one is going to jump to his defence. He's a self confessed abusive monster of the worst kind. That though is not sufficient to convict him of abducting or murdering MM.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3091 on: June 23, 2020, 12:02:14 AM »
IMO, it's because he was a sex offender living in or around PDL in the spring of 2007. No-one is going to jump to his defence. He's a self confessed abusive monster of the worst kind. That though is not sufficient to convict him of abducting or murdering MM.
It sounds like there were quite a few sex offenders living in the area at the time so what makes this one “perfect”?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3092 on: June 23, 2020, 12:07:33 AM »
At what stage were Kennedy/his investigators made aware that the Smiths had told the PJ in May 2007 they couldn't help produce efits & furthermore that Martin had subsequently identified Smithman as Gerry? There was a flurry of media reports in January 2008 in which the Smith family stressed they woud do anything they could to help in the search for Madeleine.
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id162.htm  (scroll down for various reports)

Kennedy had asked the Smiths to construct efits before judicial secrecy was lifted and while they were PJ witnesses. So Kennedy, on behalf of the parents, was breaking the law by interfering with a witness.

Brietta didn’t seem to be aware of it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3093 on: June 23, 2020, 12:13:36 AM »
It sounds like there were quite a few sex offenders living in the area at the time so what makes this one “perfect”?

I've no idea. What evidence is there that he was involved?

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3094 on: June 23, 2020, 12:24:50 AM »
I've no idea. What evidence is there that he was involved?

Errrrr....not a scintilla.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3095 on: June 23, 2020, 12:33:32 AM »
Kennedy had asked the Smiths to construct efits before judicial secrecy was lifted and while they were PJ witnesses. So Kennedy, on behalf of the parents, was breaking the law by interfering with a witness.

Brietta didn’t seem to be aware of it.

The Smiths' full details were in the media in June 2007. In early Jan 2008 Irish media had direct quoted from the family, meaning they had already broken judicial secrecy before the approach by Kennedy. PJ had done nothing with the Smiths' evidence so Kennedy wasn't interfering with anyone of any importance to the investigation at that stage.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3096 on: June 23, 2020, 12:42:40 AM »
Evidence is what counts! Amaral revealed the German vehicle photos to prove that he was investigated and they found no evidence linking him to MM. That vehicle would stand out and nobody reported it. He's the perfect suspect because he's in jail so people already hate him and want him convicted without evidence! If he was dead he wouldn't be able to defend himself! It's sad, pathetic and definitely a CIRCUS!

The only shining light is that they will have to do new DNA tests if they are after evidence linking him to MM. I want that to happen - do the tests!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3097 on: June 23, 2020, 12:52:48 AM »
The mystery is why was Smithman ignored by CM for so long? When I say ignored I mean there was none of the pretend Police Press Conference requests for public information that we saw repeatedly with Tannerman and other sightings. I don’t recall Smithman even getting a mention at the LSE event in January 2008 (but apologies if I’m wrong). That’s over 6 months without any attempt to publicise what OG (years and millions of pounds later) describe as a vital lead! At the time though it seemed, imo, like CM didn’t want Smithman to be publicised. Why?

I am not in the least surprised that Clarence Mitchell chose not to mention the Smiths sighting at the LSE event given that it identified Gerry McCann as the mystery man. Mitchell is the McCanns official spokesman and believes totally that they were not involved in Madeleine's disappearance. He was unlikely therefore to mention a witness who claimed that Gerry McCann was seen carrying a female child through the streets a short time after she went missing.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2020, 12:56:21 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3098 on: June 23, 2020, 12:55:46 AM »
Evidence is what counts! Amaral revealed the German vehicle photos to prove that he was investigated and they found no evidence linking him to MM. That vehicle would stand out and nobody reported it. He's the perfect suspect because he's in jail so people already hate him and want him convicted without evidence! If he was dead he wouldn't be able to defend himself! It's sad, pathetic and definitely a CIRCUS!

The only shining light is that they will have to do new DNA tests if they are after evidence linking him to MM. I want that to happen - do the tests!

What about the other 5 vehicles CB was seemingly associated with?

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3099 on: June 23, 2020, 01:03:51 AM »
The Smiths' full details were in the media in June 2007. In early Jan 2008 Irish media had direct quoted from the family, meaning they had already broken judicial secrecy before the approach by Kennedy. PJ had done nothing with the Smiths' evidence so Kennedy wasn't interfering with anyone of any importance to the investigation at that stage.

Could you please provide a link to the Smith’s details being in the public domain in June 2007 ? Further didn’t

Further this is what a Martin Smith said when questioned by the Gardi.

‘He has given no stories or helped in any photo fits. He sent a solicitor's letter to six papers in relation material that was printed that was misquoted’

So it seems he spoke to no newspapers either....so no breaking of judicial secrecy.

Your last sentence shows you are either ignorant of Portuguese law, especially the law pertaining to judicial secrecy or you are being disingenuous. As soon as the Smiths gave their statements to the PJ their evidence was covered by judicial secrecy. It didn’t matter whether that evidence was or was not important at the time. Kennedy, on behalf of the parents, did break  judicial secrecy....that is a fact.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3100 on: June 23, 2020, 01:08:48 AM »
The Smiths' full details were in the media in June 2007. In early Jan 2008 Irish media had direct quoted from the family, meaning they had already broken judicial secrecy before the approach by Kennedy. PJ had done nothing with the Smiths' evidence so Kennedy wasn't interfering with anyone of any importance to the investigation at that stage.

The PJ had just made arrangements to bring the Smiths back to Portugal - having already interviewed them once. They were going to be asked to formally ID someone. That's hardly doing nothing. They also attempted to get the T7/T9 back for a reconstruction to test the timelines.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3101 on: June 23, 2020, 01:10:32 AM »
What about the other 5 vehicles CB was seemingly associated with?

You need to prove which vehicles he owned in May 2007 - the Jag and campervan were searched and nothing was found!

I still think he may have an alibi that night and it could be work or his girlfriend at the time. Who is she? Has she said anything?
« Last Edit: June 23, 2020, 01:12:37 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3102 on: June 23, 2020, 01:11:17 AM »
I am not in the least surprised that Clarence Mitchell chose not to mention the Smiths sighting at the LSE event given that it identified Gerry McCann as the mystery man. Mitchell is the McCanns official spokesman and believes totally that they were not involved in Madeleine's disappearance. He was unlikely therefore to mention a witness who claimed that Gerry McCann was seen carrying a female child through the streets a short time after she went missing.

Thank you sir. IMO it's worth pointing out that he also didn't mention the sighting BEFORE Smith thought it may have been GM as far as I am aware. I very much doubt he was unaware of it as there is certainly evidence to suggest that information was being shared with the family and their PR man. He talked of "private briefings" before he was employed by the family... I find it hard to believe that CM wasn't aware of Smithman until after September 2007, especially as mobile phone data reportedly shows information sharing was occurring....

Now if we've cleared that up I'm more than happy to get back on topic and examine the evidence linking the German sex offender to MM's abduction.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2020, 01:19:54 AM by Billy Whizz Fan Club »

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3103 on: June 23, 2020, 01:42:35 AM »
You need to prove which vehicles he owned in May 2007 - the Jag and campervan were searched and nothing was found!

I still think he may have an alibi that night and it could be work or his girlfriend at the time. Who is she? Has she said anything?

Amaral hasn't mentioned the Jag...the one which was re-registered on 4th May to another German citizen. He doesn't seem to know about the purchase of a Winnebago used to travel to Spain shortly after Madeleine's abduction. IIRC German police have already said they're not overly interested in the VW camper anyway.
If CB had an alibi then imo the German police would not be following their current investigation strategy.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3104 on: June 23, 2020, 03:00:41 AM »
I am not in the least surprised that Clarence Mitchell chose not to mention the Smiths sighting at the LSE event given that it identified Gerry McCann as the mystery man. Mitchell is the McCanns official spokesman and believes totally that they were not involved in Madeleine's disappearance. He was unlikely therefore to mention a witness who claimed that Gerry McCann was seen carrying a female child through the streets a short time after she went missing.

I don't know where this is coming from or why it has become considered that it was Clarence Mitchell's responsibility to publicise "Smith man" when Amaral, whose responsibility it was, totally neglected to do so.

The LSE event had nothing at all to do with Smithman or Tannerman or any man. 

Nor was it 'The Clarence Mitchell Ignores 'Smithman Show'

It was ... "The first ever debate about the media and the McCanns, organised by POLIS, takes place on Wednesday 30 January at the LSE in London, titled ‘The McCanns and the Media: Information or Entertainment’.
Clarence Mitchell was not the only speaker taking part in the debate ~ there were four powerful media professionals also speaking at the event.  Why were they exempt from criticism ~ none of them mentioned Smithman either.

Maybe because it was neither the time nor the place.

It is also worth bearing in mind that ... "In the final report on the investigation, the PJ guarantee, however, that at the time Smith says he saw Gerry in the street, Madeleine's father was sitting at the table in the Tapas restaurant in the Ocean Club."
My name is Maddie. They took me from my holidays Público (no online link, appears in paper edition only)
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id162.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....