New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[barrier]

Back on topic please ... New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance. Thankyou

Is there one? yesterdays news, todays fish and chip paper.

[kizzy]

i think she could have been arrested how ever many lawyers she had based on the poor understanding of the alerts and dna by the PH. Its possible for innocent people to say things that can be used to incriminate them...that is a fact and if you cant see that you are denying reality

No, not denying reality at all you are - but there again can go round in circles with that one.

It's possible for innocent people to be arrested anyway if that is what they wanted to do.

They would have with or without her cooperating that is how it also works.

Don't forget it was about her missing child/baby so if you are completely innocent you would not see any danger in doing everything you could. that is reality.


Will you think it ok if CB does the same or will that be a sign of not wanting to incriminate himself

[Eleanor]

Is there one? yesterdays news, todays fish and chip paper.

I tried to send you a PM.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I hardly think discussing a witness statement about the ID of Smithman equates with posting fake pictures etc

I didn’t say “discussing” I said promoting.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I didn’t say “discussing” I said promoting.

I guess you didn’t mean me then.... I might concentrate on aspects of the evidence I feel are important but I wouldn’t describe it as “promoting” 😊

[Carana]

Fears that suspect could vanish.

 Doesn't sound as if German prosecutors have much faith in their parole system.

I think this whole thing is a massive fishing trip in order to get something to use against his parole appeal.
If they had anything substantial, then they would be able to arrest and charge

There's a legal hitch over his conviction for rape, apparently. His EAW extradition from Italy was for the drugs charge, not the rape one. His defense has raised it with the ECJ.

"According to court documents seen by the Guardian, Brückner was convicted in Germany last year of the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz in 2005, two years before Madeleine disappeared from a hotel in the same area where she was staying with her family.

His conviction is under review after defence lawyers argued he had been extradited – this time from Italy, to where he had travelled – on another charge and therefore, under the rules of the European court of justice, cannot be tried for a different crime."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/05/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-being-investigated-over-second-missing-girl

[kizzy]

There's a legal hitch over his conviction for rape, apparently. His EAW extradition from Italy was for the drugs charge, not the rape one. His defense has raised it with the ECJ.

"According to court documents seen by the Guardian, Brückner was convicted in Germany last year of the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz in 2005, two years before Madeleine disappeared from a hotel in the same area where she was staying with her family.

His conviction is under review after defence lawyers argued he had been extradited – this time from Italy, to where he had travelled – on another charge and therefore, under the rules of the European court of justice, cannot be tried for a different crime."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/05/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-being-investigated-over-second-missing-girl

So it's possible he could be released

could be a reason for the involvement of him in Maddie's disappearance imo.

It does seem to be the UK press who have gone overboard to convince some he is the abductor.

Wonder how he will get out dead - or - alive.

[Brietta]

There's a legal hitch over his conviction for rape, apparently. His EAW extradition from Italy was for the drugs charge, not the rape one. His defense has raised it with the ECJ.

"According to court documents seen by the Guardian, Brückner was convicted in Germany last year of the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz in 2005, two years before Madeleine disappeared from a hotel in the same area where she was staying with her family.

His conviction is under review after defence lawyers argued he had been extradited – this time from Italy, to where he had travelled – on another charge and therefore, under the rules of the European court of justice, cannot be tried for a different crime."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/05/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-being-investigated-over-second-missing-girl

Very thought provoking should he get off on a technicality without being questioned.

I wonder if he is the man seen by Tamsin Silence.  She was only twelve at the time when she gave her description so it might not be possible to pick him out of a lineup now.


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Swan said two reliable witnesses had also identified a man who was loitering in the area around the time of Madeleine's disappearance as having facial scarring.

"The photographs one has and the descriptions one has of Christian B, the suspect, is that he is a heavily pockmarked man. In other words it's possibly from a case of adolescent acne, but his skin is very marked."
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/06/madeleine-mccann-expert-says-evidence-points-to-suspect-s-involvement.html

[faithlilly]

Very thought provoking should he get off on a technicality without being questioned.

I wonder if he is the man seen by Tamsin Silence.  She was only twelve at the time when she gave her description so it might not be possible to pick him out of a lineup now.


Snip

Swan said two reliable witnesses had also identified a man who was loitering in the area around the time of Madeleine's disappearance as having facial scarring.

"The photographs one has and the descriptions one has of Christian B, the suspect, is that he is a heavily pockmarked man. In other words it's possibly from a case of adolescent acne, but his skin is very marked."
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/06/madeleine-mccann-expert-says-evidence-points-to-suspect-s-involvement.html

Brueckner is neither very heavily pockmarked or very ugly as Tamsin Silence claimed.

[The General]

So it's possible he could be released

could be a reason for the involvement of him in Maddie's disappearance imo.

It does seem to be the UK press who have gone overboard to convince some he is the abductor.

Wonder how he will get out dead - or - alive.

Almost criminally, due to the circus created by the polizei, he's probably going to get released using the top class legal team he wouldn't have had access to if they'd have kept their big, daft gobs shut.
Well played, yer big bunch of spanners!

[Carana]

Very thought provoking should he get off on a technicality without being questioned.

I wonder if he is the man seen by Tamsin Silence.  She was only twelve at the time when she gave her description so it might not be possible to pick him out of a lineup now.


Snip

Swan said two reliable witnesses had also identified a man who was loitering in the area around the time of Madeleine's disappearance as having facial scarring.

"The photographs one has and the descriptions one has of Christian B, the suspect, is that he is a heavily pockmarked man. In other words it's possibly from a case of adolescent acne, but his skin is very marked."
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/06/madeleine-mccann-expert-says-evidence-points-to-suspect-s-involvement.html

I've been wondering as well. I had a look at the e-fit or whatever it's called in her statement plus the thinner one of the two by the Smiths, and various photos of this Christian B chap. I found them to be quite similar.

[faithlilly]

I've been wondering as well. I had a look at the e-fit or whatever it's called in her statement plus the thinner one of the two by the Smiths, and various photos of this Christian B chap. I found them to be quite similar.

And it doesn’t worry you that Brueckner’s face is neither very ugly or heavily pockmarked?

[misty]

Brueckner is neither very heavily pockmarked or very ugly as Tamsin Silence claimed.

Apparently he was the former, according to a neighbour of his near Luz.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11939394/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-new-mugshot/

[Carana]

Very thought provoking should he get off on a technicality without being questioned.

I wonder if he is the man seen by Tamsin Silence.  She was only twelve at the time when she gave her description so it might not be possible to pick him out of a lineup now.


Snip

Swan said two reliable witnesses had also identified a man who was loitering in the area around the time of Madeleine's disappearance as having facial scarring.

"The photographs one has and the descriptions one has of Christian B, the suspect, is that he is a heavily pockmarked man. In other words it's possibly from a case of adolescent acne, but his skin is very marked."
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/06/madeleine-mccann-expert-says-evidence-points-to-suspect-s-involvement.html

The idea that he was heavily pockmarked seems to be a media exaggeration.

Concerning the individual, she describes him as being: Caucasian race, light skin, so he wasn't Portuguese, but could be British, according to her criteria. Approximately 180 cm tall, thin complexion, 30/35 years of age. Short hair, like shaved with 1 cm of length and fair, but she isn't sure if it was blonde because the sun was reflecting, and made perception more difficult. She didn't see the eyes because he wore dark glasses of black colour, with a structure of mass, a thick frame. He had a large forehead. Nose of normal size, a bit pointy and sharp. Large ears, close against the head. Mouth with thin lips, she didn't see his teeth. Chin pointing up, which stood out on a face that she describes as sharp. No beard, no moustache, a clean shave. No other special signs, apart from some small pimples on the face as a result of shaving.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm

[faithlilly]

Apparently he was the former, according to a neighbour of his near Luz.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11939394/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-new-mugshot/

I prefer the evidence of my own eyes and his face in his photographs is not heavily pockmarked. Surely even you can see that ?