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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3330 on: June 26, 2020, 10:39:18 AM »
Well, it not about GA is it - think it's you who missed the point of my post.

Being forewarned is being forearmed and Bruekner's legal team had enough information already to be going on with.

In my opinion only someone with the desire to throw a spanner into the works would have given them more.

Not to mention any associates who on the outside who may wish to erase any trace of prior knowledge or complicity in Brueckner's crimes.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3331 on: June 26, 2020, 11:17:38 AM »
Do you realise that you are quoting your own opinion.....amaral did plant a seed but imo its false and you are  gullible for beleiving it. ...he is a proven liar after all. CB is a real suspect who the germans believe ..based on evidence amaral doesnt know about...is guilty. Amaral is simply trying to cover his incompetent backside by introducing his fantasy...imo

My take on it is that amaral knew the Germans were investigating CB...and hes just stating his own fantasy opinion that CB is  scapegoat...he is not.


As I told you before it has nothing to do with GA my suspicions of the mccs they did that all by themselves.

It was them also that planted the seed they now have to sow. they can only blame themselves for what happened to Maddie IMO

So your adamant CB is not a scapegoat IMO that makes you part an parcel of the coverup.

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3332 on: June 26, 2020, 11:31:49 AM »
I agree Carana.

We have had a very tight investigation from all concerned up till now.  Only when returned to Portimão/Faro as inevitably it had to, has the lid been blasted off.

I don't think the Brits and the Germans will be the only ones with concerns about that.

The reopened investigation has been conducted from Portimao/Faro since 2013 imo.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3333 on: June 26, 2020, 11:34:36 AM »

As I told you before it has nothing to do with GA my suspicions of the mccs they did that all by themselves.

It was them also that planted the seed they now have to sow. they can only blame themselves for what happened to Maddie IMO

So your adamant CB is not a scapegoat IMO that makes you part an parcel of the coverup.

You think i'm part of the cover up...what cover up. What evidence is there of a cover up...just the idea of a discredited cop trying to cover his discredited backside imo.

To suggest Im part of some cover up is a totally daft suggestion...I think hes probably guilty as the German police tell us he is

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3334 on: June 26, 2020, 11:39:43 AM »
The reopened investigation has been conducted from Portimao/Faro since 2013 imo.

The German one ???
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3335 on: June 26, 2020, 11:44:55 AM »
The German one ???

The Portuguese one, obviously. The Porto team reviewed the first investigation, they weren't involved in the reopened investigation.
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Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3336 on: June 26, 2020, 11:58:06 AM »
I agree Carana.

We have had a very tight investigation from all concerned up till now.  Only when returned to Portimão/Faro as inevitably it had to, has the lid been blasted off.

I don't think the Brits and the Germans will be the only ones with concerns about that.

Hmmm.

I can't say that I'm overly impressed by the reaction of the new national deputy director of the PJ, formerly head of the head of the PJ in Funchal (where Paiva got side-promoted to), and formerly the head of the PJ scientific lab from 2009.

Meanwhile, PJ police have stressed that in 2012 the British police received the elements of the Judicial Police process about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in which there were hundreds of people, including the German now announced as a suspect.


“At least since 2012, when Operation Orange started, the English police received from the Judiciary Police all the elements that were in our possession regarding the case of the child’s disappearance. If Christian Bruckner was there, as hundreds of people were there, and if the suspicions about that person were so evident, he would have been the target of diligences requested by the English, and which have always been authorised in Portugal, but were never requested,” said the PJ.


Faced with criticisms of the PJ’s performance published by some British media, Carlos Farinha from the PJ said that “the lack of relevance that is attributed to the PJ in relation to Bruckner is the same that can be attributed to Scotland Yard or the Metropolitan Police, at least since 2012, because the data about the citizen was also known to them”.


The suspicions of the involvement of a German citizen in the disappearance of the three-year-old English child in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, only increased in 2017 when another German citizen provided information to Scotland Yard.


For Carlos Farinha, “in theory, everything could have been different”, but “in 2007 and in 2012 it was not known what was known in 2017 and the subsequent developments were also the result of the crossing of information with the PJ. There were also testimonies obtained in Germany and Portugal”.


https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/german-suspect-in-madeleine-mccann-case/54462

Appointed at national deputy director of the PJ in 2018:
https://funchalnoticias.net/2018/07/26/carlos-farinha-nomeado-diretor-nacional-adjunto-da-policia-judiciaria/


He was the former  head of the PJ Forensic Science Lab - cf the one-gloved lady outside 5A and the non-evidence in the Cipriano case (not to be confused with the INML, which I've always found to be efficient), but from 2009.
https://pt.linkedin.com/in/carlos-farinha-78094b61


And then there's this... which I don't have time to read for the moment.

https://www.dnoticias.pt/madeira/carlos-farinha-acompanha-director-nacional-da-pj-em-visita-de-dois-dias-a-madeira-NH4238593

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3337 on: June 26, 2020, 01:07:47 PM »
You think i'm part of the cover up...what cover up. What evidence is there of a cover up...just the idea of a discredited cop trying to cover his discredited backside imo.

To suggest Im part of some cover up is a totally daft suggestion...I think hes probably guilty as the German police tell us he is

.I think hes probably guilty as the German police tell us he is


 As they tell you lol - I know that's what they want you to believe IMO.

You say GA swayed my thinking about the mccs well it proves the germans have swayed yours.

There is one thing though D if the suspect doesn't get charged - you will know how it feels on the other side of the fence

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3338 on: June 26, 2020, 01:31:03 PM »
Hmmm.

I can't say that I'm overly impressed by the reaction of the new national deputy director of the PJ, formerly head of the head of the PJ in Funchal (where Paiva got side-promoted to), and formerly the head of the PJ scientific lab from 2009.

Meanwhile, PJ police have stressed that in 2012 the British police received the elements of the Judicial Police process about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in which there were hundreds of people, including the German now announced as a suspect.


“At least since 2012, when Operation Orange started, the English police received from the Judiciary Police all the elements that were in our possession regarding the case of the child’s disappearance. If Christian Bruckner was there, as hundreds of people were there, and if the suspicions about that person were so evident, he would have been the target of diligences requested by the English, and which have always been authorised in Portugal, but were never requested,” said the PJ.


Faced with criticisms of the PJ’s performance published by some British media, Carlos Farinha from the PJ said that “the lack of relevance that is attributed to the PJ in relation to Bruckner is the same that can be attributed to Scotland Yard or the Metropolitan Police, at least since 2012, because the data about the citizen was also known to them”.


The suspicions of the involvement of a German citizen in the disappearance of the three-year-old English child in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, only increased in 2017 when another German citizen provided information to Scotland Yard.


For Carlos Farinha, “in theory, everything could have been different”, but “in 2007 and in 2012 it was not known what was known in 2017 and the subsequent developments were also the result of the crossing of information with the PJ. There were also testimonies obtained in Germany and Portugal”.


https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/german-suspect-in-madeleine-mccann-case/54462

Appointed at national deputy director of the PJ in 2018:
https://funchalnoticias.net/2018/07/26/carlos-farinha-nomeado-diretor-nacional-adjunto-da-policia-judiciaria/


He was the former  head of the PJ Forensic Science Lab - cf the one-gloved lady outside 5A and the non-evidence in the Cipriano case (not to be confused with the INML, which I've always found to be efficient), but from 2009.
https://pt.linkedin.com/in/carlos-farinha-78094b61


And then there's this... which I don't have time to read for the moment.

https://www.dnoticias.pt/madeira/carlos-farinha-acompanha-director-nacional-da-pj-em-visita-de-dois-dias-a-madeira-NH4238593

"The old order changes yielding place to ... erm???"

The tensions which had been consigned to the dustbins of history with the reopening of Madeleine's case appear to have made a resurgence.  What a terrible pity that is.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3339 on: June 26, 2020, 01:50:03 PM »
The reopened investigation has been conducted from Portimao/Faro since 2013 imo.

In what sense, as opposed to Porto?

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3340 on: June 26, 2020, 02:07:46 PM »
In what sense, as opposed to Porto?

Porto - review. Portimao - reopened investigation.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3341 on: June 26, 2020, 02:16:00 PM »

.I think hes probably guilty as the German police tell us he is


 As they tell you lol - I know that's what they want you to believe IMO.

You say GA swayed my thinking about the mccs well it proves the germans have swayed yours.

There is one thing though D if the suspect doesn't get charged - you will know how it feels on the other side of the fence

the germans havent influenced me...the facts have....even amaral describes him as a perfect suspect...think what he means.

Hes  a man with a history of burgalry and child abuse....he was in the area that night..little girls swimsuits were found in his campervan plus an memory stick with pictures of child abuse were founf elsewhere The Germans say there is other concrete evidence that shows Maddie is dead...they are convinced he is guilty. Thats quite good reasons to beleive hes guilty.

Can you give any reason why the German police would join the investigation and deliberately make CB a scapegoat.

Amaral has just come up with another fantasy to save his incompetent backside imo....there is no evidence to suggest CB is simply a scapegoat. you have called other gullible...imo you are th egullible one...as is anyone who listens to discredited convicted liar and beleives what he says

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Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3342 on: June 26, 2020, 02:21:10 PM »
Porto - review. Portimao - reopened investigation.

You could be right. Oh dear.

https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id466.htm

If sensitive investigative info were to go straight to Portimão, every PT hack would be waiting at the nearest bar for Edwige to fly by.

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3343 on: June 26, 2020, 02:43:04 PM »
the germans havent influenced me...the facts have....even amaral describes him as a perfect suspect...think what he means.

Hes  a man with a history of burgalry and child abuse....he was in the area that night..little girls swimsuits were found in his campervan plus an memory stick with pictures of child abuse were founf elsewhere The Germans say there is other concrete evidence that shows Maddie is dead...they are convinced he is guilty. Thats quite good reasons to beleive hes guilty.

Can you give any reason why the German police would join the investigation and deliberately make CB a scapegoat.

Amaral has just come up with another fantasy to save his incompetent backside imo....there is no evidence to suggest CB is simply a scapegoat. you have called other gullible...imo you are th egullible one...as is anyone who listens to discredited convicted liar and beleives what he says


even amaral describes him as a perfect suspect...think what he means.


You think what he means -  instead of twisting it to your own agenda.

The perfect suspect to make a scapegoat out of -  is what he meant.

It's you who keeps bringing GA up by the way lol.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3344 on: June 26, 2020, 02:50:48 PM »

even amaral describes him as a perfect suspect...think what he means.


You think what he means -  instead of twisting it to your own agenda.

The perfect suspect to make a scapegoat out of -  is what he meant.

It's you who keeps bringing GA up by the way lol.

You cant answer the simple question...why would the Germans want to make a scapegoat...what evidence is their hes a scapegoat and not a genuine suspect...