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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3990 on: June 29, 2020, 05:43:39 PM »

You are wrong again - You show me anywhere that I have claimed the mccs killed Maddie.

You INFER it by saying she wasn’t abducted and she didn’t leave the apartment by herself...

So what does that leave, eh?
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 07:41:59 PM by Holly Goodhead »
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3991 on: June 29, 2020, 06:49:26 PM »
No I think hes daft...to suggest rolling off the sofa and dying after  a couple of spoons of calpol...hed have to be.

if Maddie banged her head it would take quite  a few hours for her to die......thats a fact

I’m amazed at how some people such as Kizzy are so arrogant to think they KNOW everything, when it’s clear they don’t at all. It’s like they just enjoy slating the McCanns’ for their own personal issues they have.

Amaral wasn’t a doctor, he was a policeman (a lousy one) and if he thinks Calpol can kill it shows hs stupidly and ignorance.

I know the McCanns’ took with them Calpol, which all responsible parents do in case it’s needed, and they also took Phenergan which is an antihistamine used for things such as itching, allergies, sickness etc.

About three months after Maddie was taken, Kate had forensics test hair samples of both the twins’ to test them for drugs. Those tests proved that neither twin had taken ANY drugs in the last six months. So why would Kate or Gerry give medication to Maddie and not the twins? Maddie wasn’t unwell, she was as bright as a button, so there would have been absolutely NO need to.

But let’s just suppose they HAD given Maddie a teaspoon of either drug, for whatever reason, and she suddenly stopped breathing. I know it didn’t happen, but just let’s suppose it did.

Gerry was a consultant cardiologist and Kate, prior to being a GP was an anaesthetist working in an IC Unit.

Does anyone seriously think they wouldn’t have immediately called an ambulance while giving Maddie heart massage and breathing down her mouth? They wouldn’t have been thinking “What will the police say?!” They’d have been focussed on getting Maddie breathing again, and once an ambulance arrived they’d tell them what had happened. Anyone can suffer an allergic reaction — that doesn’t make it murder!

Or let’s suppose when they left for the Tapas Bar at 8:30pm and they checked on all the children — who’d all been in bed asleep by 7PM — then for some inexplicable reason Maddie stopped breathing in that short time frame of half an hour before Gerry went back to check, the FIRST thing he’d have done was start heart massage & breathing, and would call an ambulance. And when that ambulance came he’d say “She’s just stopped breathing!”

And likewise with Kate when she went in to check.

And had Maddie somehow fallen on the floor and fractured her skull, again, they’d have said “She must have slipped out of bed and banged her head!”

The police wouldn’t have charged them with murder! They’d KNOW it was an accident.

And if people say “Ah, but they were at the Tapas Bar and only looked in their bedroom every half hour”, had they both stayed in that night sitting on the balcony or in the lounge, would they have peeped into the children’s bedroom every half hour? Who does that at home?

Had Maddie slipped and banged her head while half asleep, or suddenly stopped breathing in bed, they wouldn’t have discovered until the morning when they woke up.


So whichever angle you look at it, HAD Maddie slipped and banged her head, or stopped breathing, they not only had NO reason at all to hide her body and make up a wild fabricated story that she’d been taken, they’d either have done everything in their power to resuscitate her and called an ambulance, and if they knew it was too late it would have been put down to a tragic accident.

You know, accidents do happen, tragically.

And as for the really weird ones who say they WANTED to kill her, they could have taken her out swimming in the sea and drowned her.

The whole fabrication is utterly insane and vile in my opinion.

That poor couple have to live the rest of their lives without Maddie, and that pain will never go away. How must they feel if they read strangers — busybodies — discussing them, calling them terrible names, accusing them of all sorts of atrocities when they’re already loaded down with never-ending grief!

It’s shameful and disgusting. And how infuriating too, to have jumped-up nobodies prying into their private affairs, making cruel accusations, and coming out with vile, aggressive swipes when they’re usually (and I know who I’m referring to) uneducated dullards who seem to get delight in taunting them.

It’s utterly putrid!

And then! You get others who say they’d happily sit and have a drink with the evil convicted rapist/paedophile...my God, there’s some truly sick people on this planet.


« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 07:55:27 PM by Ispywithmybigeye »
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3992 on: June 29, 2020, 07:08:18 PM »
Does anyone know where the mobile phone mast alleged to belong to the Ocean Club was located, as mentioned in the current documentary?...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11982215/christian-b-madeleine-mccann-phone-call-praia-da-luz/

Was it a different one to these two (green and blue) Luz Parish towers...


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It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3993 on: June 29, 2020, 07:10:59 PM »
Does anyone know where the mobile phone mast alleged to belong to the Ocean Club was located, as mentioned in the current documentary?...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11982215/christian-b-madeleine-mccann-phone-call-praia-da-luz/

Was it a different one to these two (green and blue) Luz Parish towers...
Interesting...
“Mr Wolters said: "We know that the phone number which was used by our suspect on May 3, 2007, was connecting to the mast which belongs to the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz."

"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3994 on: June 29, 2020, 07:20:44 PM »

They most certainly can!

I’ve sometimes checked my own, and it shows exactly where I’ve been, what time ive arrrived and what time I’ve left. It also shows the exact route I take

I don't need a phone to know what I'm doing.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3995 on: June 29, 2020, 07:23:40 PM »

He STARTED (or rather, first fit caught) at 17. And then continued thereafter.

He’s a career criminal besides being a paedophile and serial rapist.

The police suspect he’s killed several children and women.

His first conviction was in 1994 his second in 2011, there's nowt in between.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3996 on: June 29, 2020, 07:24:18 PM »
Does anyone know where the mobile phone mast alleged to belong to the Ocean Club was located, as mentioned in the current documentary?...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11982215/christian-b-madeleine-mccann-phone-call-praia-da-luz/

Was it a different one to these two (green and blue) Luz Parish towers...


Heriberto is the man that knows...you could message him

Off hand

Optimus is on top of the water tower and rhere are two more  on top of 2 Rua Primeiro de Malo

but check with Heriberto
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 07:26:29 PM by Davel »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3997 on: June 29, 2020, 07:31:16 PM »
His first conviction was in 1994 his second in 2011, there's nowt in between.
He committed a brutal rape in 2005, god knows what else he did that he has never been convicted for during those intervening years. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3998 on: June 29, 2020, 07:39:27 PM »
I’m amazed at how some people such as Kizzy are so arrogant to think they KNOW everything, when it’s clear they don’t at all. It’s like they just  enjoy slating the McCanns’ for their own personal issues they have.

Amaral wasn’t a doctor, he was a policeman (a lousy one) and if the thinks Calpol can kill it shows hs stupidly and ignorance.

I know the McCanns’ took with them Calpol, which all responsible parents do in case it’s needed, and they also took Phenergan which is an antihistamine used for things such as itching, allergies, sickness etc.

About three months after Maddie’s was taken, Kate had forensics test hair samples of both the twins’ to test them for drugs. Those tests proved that neither twin had taken ANY drugs in the last six months. So why would Kate or Gerry give medication to Maddie and not the twins? Maddie wasn’t unwell, she was as bright as a button, so there would have been absolutely NO need to.

But let’s just suppose they HAD given Maddie a teaspoon of either drug, for whatever reason, and she suddenly stopped breathing. I know it didn’t happen, but just let’s suppose it did.

Gerry was a consultant cardiologist and Kate, prior to being a GP was an anaesthetist working in an IC Unit.

Does anyone seriously think they wouldn’t have immediately called an ambulance while giving Maddie heart massage and breathing down her mouth? They wouldn’t have been thinking “What will the police say?!” They’d have been focussed on getting Maddie breathing again, and once an ambulance arrived they’d tell them what had happened. Anyone can suffer an allergic reaction — that doesn’t make it murder!

Or let’s suppose when they left for the Tapas Bar at 8:30pm and they checked on all the children — who’d all been in bed asleep by 7PM — then for some inexplicable reason Maddie stopped breathing in that short time frame of half an hour before Gerry went back to check, the FIRST thing he’d have done was start heart massage & breathing, and would call an ambulance. And when that ambulance came he’d say “She’s just stopped breathing!”

And likewise with Kate when she went in to check.

And had Maddie somehow fallen on the floor and fractured her skull, again, they’d have said “She must have slipped out of bed and banged her head!”

The police wouldn’t have charged them with murder! They’d KNOW it was an accident.

And if people say “Ah, but they were at the Tapas Bar and only looked in their bedroom every half hour”, had they both stayed in that night sitting on the balcony or in the lounge, would they have peeped into the children’s bedroom every half hour? Who does that at home?

Had Maddie slipped and banged her head while half asleep, or suddenly stopped breathing in bed, they wouldn’t have discovered until the morning when they woke up.


So whichever angle you look at it, HAD Maddie slipped and banged her head, or stopped breathing, they not only had NO reason at all to hide her body and make up a wild fabricated story that she’d been taken, they’d either have done everything in their power to resuscitate her and called an ambulance, and if they knew it was too late it would have been put down to a tragic accident.

You know, accidents do happen, tragically.

And as for the really weird ones who say they WANTED to kill her, they could have taken her out swimming in the sea and drowned her.

The whole fabrication is utterly insane and vile in my opinion.

That poor couple have to live the rest of their lives without Maddie, and that pain will never go away. How must they feel if they read strangers — busybodies — discussing them, calling them terrible names, accusing them of all sorts of atrocities when they’re already loaded down with never-ending grief!

It’s shameful and disgusting. And how infuriating too, to have jumped-up nobodies prying into their private affairs, making cruel accusations, and coming out with vile, aggressive swipes when they’re usually (and I know who I’m referring to) uneducated dullards who seem to get delight in taunting them.

It’s utterly putrid!

And then! You get others who say they’d happily sit and have a drink with the evil convicted rapist/paedophile...my God, there’s some truly sick people on this planet.

As I've pointed out to you previously, afai understand, those who believe the Mc's were responsible believe they administered MM some sort of sedative to ensure a carefree night at tapas.  The result being either accidentally over sedating MM or causing her to feel drowsy both of which resulted in tragic consequences.  Then fearing what a pm would reveal and the potential consequences ie criminal charges, struck off GMC and losing twins they covered up and disposed of the body.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3999 on: June 29, 2020, 07:40:42 PM »

The McCanns’ being middle-class have no effect on what I think.

Maybe you WANT them to be guilty because they’re something you aspire to if you’re not middle-class?

But class has nothing to do with murder. Murderers come from all walks of life.

The problem you have, and all the other McCann accusers, is that not one of you can say why they would kill Maddie; how they killed Maddie; how they managed to do it in less than 10 minutes; how they managed to hide her body...all without transport, time, need, desire or a motive.

You just say “Oh, I think Gerry is guilty because he smiled at someone” or “I think Kate is guilty because she went jogging “

Some people become frozen in tragedy and carry out routines to try and keep control, to stop them going mad.

Madeleine was last seen by an independent witness at 5:30 on 3 May 2007. If death happened it could be anytime. 10 minutes is BS!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4000 on: June 29, 2020, 07:45:41 PM »

Don’t forget to send yourself a Warning! ^*&&

I'll stick to taking myself in hand  8(0(*
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4001 on: June 29, 2020, 07:49:45 PM »

Portugal is lax....

But it isn't Portugal who handed down the sentence.  It's a sentence handed down by the Germans that's yet to be imposed and is the subject of an appeal assuming media reports are correct. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4002 on: June 29, 2020, 07:53:11 PM »

Heriberto is the man that knows...you could message him

Off hand

Optimus is on top of the water tower and rhere are two more  on top of 2 Rua Primeiro de Malo

but check with Heriberto
Thank you.  Those three you mentioned are located quite a distance from Ocean Club.  Odd that Hans Wolters should say that the mast belonged solely? to an organisation which occupies a lesser part of Luz.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4003 on: June 29, 2020, 07:54:16 PM »
Not if you wanted to retrieve it for later use.

If he wanted to retrieve it for later use then why not find a t little hidey-hole for a tiny object?  Why keep digging up a dog and in the process attract smells for vultures, rodents, insects etc which might draw attention. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4004 on: June 29, 2020, 07:57:16 PM »
I’m amazed at how some people such as Kizzy are so arrogant to think they KNOW everything, when it’s clear they don’t at all. It’s like they just  enjoy slating the McCanns’ for their own personal issues they have.

Amaral wasn’t a doctor, he was a policeman (a lousy one) and if the thinks Calpol can kill it shows hs stupidly and ignorance.

I know the McCanns’ took with them Calpol, which all responsible parents do in case it’s needed, and they also took Phenergan which is an antihistamine used for things such as itching, allergies, sickness etc.

About three months after Maddie’s was taken, Kate had forensics test hair samples of both the twins’ to test them for drugs. Those tests proved that neither twin had taken ANY drugs in the last six months. So why would Kate or Gerry give medication to Maddie and not the twins? Maddie wasn’t unwell, she was as bright as a button, so there would have been absolutely NO need to.

But let’s just suppose they HAD given Maddie a teaspoon of either drug, for whatever reason, and she suddenly stopped breathing. I know it didn’t happen, but just let’s suppose it did.

Gerry was a consultant cardiologist and Kate, prior to being a GP was an anaesthetist working in an IC Unit.

Does anyone seriously think they wouldn’t have immediately called an ambulance while giving Maddie heart massage and breathing down her mouth? They wouldn’t have been thinking “What will the police say?!” They’d have been focussed on getting Maddie breathing again, and once an ambulance arrived they’d tell them what had happened. Anyone can suffer an allergic reaction — that doesn’t make it murder!

Or let’s suppose when they left for the Tapas Bar at 8:30pm and they checked on all the children — who’d all been in bed asleep by 7PM — then for some inexplicable reason Maddie stopped breathing in that short time frame of half an hour before Gerry went back to check, the FIRST thing he’d have done was start heart massage & breathing, and would call an ambulance. And when that ambulance came he’d say “She’s just stopped breathing!”

And likewise with Kate when she went in to check.

And had Maddie somehow fallen on the floor and fractured her skull, again, they’d have said “She must have slipped out of bed and banged her head!”

The police wouldn’t have charged them with murder! They’d KNOW it was an accident.

And if people say “Ah, but they were at the Tapas Bar and only looked in their bedroom every half hour”, had they both stayed in that night sitting on the balcony or in the lounge, would they have peeped into the children’s bedroom every half hour? Who does that at home?

Had Maddie slipped and banged her head while half asleep, or suddenly stopped breathing in bed, they wouldn’t have discovered until the morning when they woke up.


So whichever angle you look at it, HAD Maddie slipped and banged her head, or stopped breathing, they not only had NO reason at all to hide her body and make up a wild fabricated story that she’d been taken, they’d either have done everything in their power to resuscitate her and called an ambulance, and if they knew it was too late it would have been put down to a tragic accident.

You know, accidents do happen, tragically.

And as for the really weird ones who say they WANTED to kill her, they could have taken her out swimming in the sea and drowned her.

The whole fabrication is utterly insane and vile in my opinion.

That poor couple have to live the rest of their lives without Maddie, and that pain will never go away. How must they feel if they read strangers — busybodies — discussing them, calling them terrible names, accusing them of all sorts of atrocities when they’re already loaded down with never-ending grief!

It’s shameful and disgusting. And how infuriating too, to have jumped-up nobodies prying into their private affairs, making cruel accusations, and coming out with vile, aggressive swipes when they’re usually (and I know who I’m referring to) uneducated dullards who seem to get delight in taunting them.

It’s utterly putrid!

And then! You get others who say they’d happily sit and have a drink with the evil convicted rapist/paedophile...my God, there’s some truly sick people on this planet.

I think you’ll find you’re wrong about the drug tests on the hair after that length of time has elapsed and the presence of fenergan.