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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4095 on: June 30, 2020, 06:04:53 AM »
Mysterious phone call made by McCann suspect places him 'outside resort' before she was snatched
30 Jun, 2020
German police believe a key piece of evidence proves prime suspect Christian Brueckner was outside the Ocean Club minutes before Madeleine McCann was snatched.

Brueckner had made a 30-minute call to a phone registered to a man named Diogo Silva just an hour before McCann disappeared.

Prosecutors have since traced the phone used by Brueckner, claiming it connected to the mast owned by the resort complex where the McCanns were staying.

The phone call has been a central part of the renewed police probe since the twice-convicted paedophile was named as a key suspect earlier this month.
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"We know that the phone number which was used by our suspect on May 3, 2007, was connecting to the mast which belongs to the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz," he said.

TV host Liz Hayes then presses the prosecutor on if they can place Brueckner at the scene.

He replies: "Yes, we think so."
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The man on the other end of Brueckner's call is now considered a "key witness".

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12344161
Where is this said mast actually located?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4096 on: June 30, 2020, 07:24:39 AM »
Even a photo would not be good enough as we could be dealing with a lookalike child.  I'm really amazed how two siblings can look alike e.g. the Caffell twins (Bamber case) where even members of the family couldn't tell them apart.
My theory all along has been that there were two girls who looked so alike and no one has been able to tell them apart.
The photo we often see portrayed as Madeleine McCann IMO all along has been that girl isn't MM.

This is not Madeleine, IMO

So I hope that Kate and Gerry resist just agreeing with the Germans that they have some sort of photographic proof that Madeleine is dead.


Have you emailed Hans Christian Wolton, Rob?

Incidentally, I don’t think Sheila and Colin’s twins looked identical at all

They had completely different jawlines
« Last Edit: June 30, 2020, 07:26:40 AM by ISpyWithMyEye »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4097 on: June 30, 2020, 08:30:15 AM »

Instead of you — who wasn’t there — coming up with theories that suit YOUR agenda, why don’t you listen to the FACTUAL EVIDENCE by those who were there?

Gerry played tennis for an hour at 6pm while Kate fed the children, bathed them and tucked them into bed by 7pm.

Gerry came back & kissed them goodnight, then both he & Kate showered & got ready for dinner.

You can imagine up as many scenarios in your head as you want, but it won’t alter the facts. Are you saying that because Kate was in the apartment at 5:30pm feeding the children and getting them ready for bed that means she must have murdered Maddie? How about all their friends who were doing the same?

They were doing what ALL normal parents’ do at that time of day on holiday — when you’ve been on a family holiday do you all stay outside when your toddlers are having dinner and getting ready for bed? Or do you bath them, brush their teeth, get them ready for bed INSIDE?!

You lambast others and tell them to listen to the factual evidence. I suggest that you acquaint yourself with the facts  instead. Kate McCann wasn't feeding the children in 5A and their friends were at the beach, not getting their children ready for bed.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4098 on: June 30, 2020, 08:30:53 AM »
Where is this said mast actually located?

Please don't initiate yet another day of fatuous game playing and deflection.  The thread title is clear enough ... I have posted a news report and have watched the interview where these questions were asked and answered.

If you think there was no antenna in existence where the interviewee claims please post your evidence and don't treat other posters as the font of all knowledge ... do your own research and agree or argue ... but endeavour to stay on topic.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4099 on: June 30, 2020, 08:32:35 AM »
You lambast others and tell them to listen to the factual evidence. I suggest that you acquaint yourself with the facts  instead. Kate McCann wasn't feeding the children in 5A and their friends were at the beach, not getting their children ready for bed.
  ... and what does that have to do with the new prime suspect ?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4100 on: June 30, 2020, 08:33:49 AM »
Where is this said mast actually located?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ocean+club+praia+da+luz+phone+number&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#

There’s the phone number, perhaps they can assis you with your enquiry.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4101 on: June 30, 2020, 08:34:49 AM »
Trauma Primary Survey

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Introduction

The primary survey is designed to assess and treat any life-threatening injuries quickly. It should be completed very rapidly. The main causes of death in a trauma patient are airway obstruction, respiratory failure, massive hemorrhage, and brain injuries. Therefore, these are the areas targeted during the primary survey. The following are some of, but not all, the specific injuries that may be identified during a primary survey, which may be potentially life-threatening:

    Airway obstruction
    Tension pneumothorax
    Massive internal or external hemorrhage
    Open pneumothorax
    Flail chest
    Cardiac tamponade
    Intracranial bleed

A trauma patient refers to something like  a car accident...not  a fall in the home.
Falls may be the most common cause of death but have you looked at the statistics. Elderly popele die due to falls not children
When children do die from falls it takes hours due to  a subdural bleed.
We have been through this before...no one was able to come up with an incident of  a childs fall causing immediate or fairly quick death.

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4102 on: June 30, 2020, 08:43:39 AM »
Please don't initiate yet another day of fatuous game playing and deflection.  The thread title is clear enough ... I have posted a news report and have watched the interview where these questions were asked and answered.

If you think there was no antenna in existence where the interviewee claims please post your evidence and don't treat other posters as the font of all knowledge ... do your own research and agree or argue ... but endeavour to stay on topic.

I'm not disputing the existence of the antenna I'm asking its exact location,you think it has some bearing to underline it in your post,so you must think it has relevance,just asking for clarity.The German who is officially unnamed is supposed to have used a phone,or rather a phone linked to him was used,where is what I'm asking.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2020, 08:45:51 AM by barrier »
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4103 on: June 30, 2020, 09:07:54 AM »
I'm not disputing the existence of the antenna I'm asking its exact location,you think it has some bearing to underline it in your post,so you must think it has relevance,just asking for clarity.The German who is officially unnamed is supposed to have used a phone,or rather a phone linked to him was used,where is what I'm asking.

My post relayed information relevant to discussion regarding the possibility or not of pinpointing a person's whereabouts using phone antennae.
According to the Germans it was ... what on earth prompted you to peremptorily ask me for its exact location? You've got exactly the same information I have.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4104 on: June 30, 2020, 09:11:58 AM »
My post relayed information relevant to discussion regarding the possibility or not of pinpointing a person's whereabouts using phone antennae.
According to the Germans it was ... what on earth prompted you to peremptorily ask me for its exact location? You've got exactly the same information I have.

The exact area then that the three amigos back in 2007 pinged to which brought them to the attention of Grange in 2014,round abouts it seems.
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4105 on: June 30, 2020, 09:34:18 AM »
There is a thread on page 55 of the McCann board,it concerns phone pings which brought the 3 amigos to granges attention,the relevance to this new suspect I hear you ask,it is this,  just how he cannot be said to be outside of 5a by his phone record.


From 2013
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24386130.


What can phone data tell us?
By Matthew WallTechnology reporter, BBC News

As mobile phones constantly send and receive data from mobile phone masts, a user's location can be identified to within a few hundred metres using triangulation techniques. Modern smartphones with GPS built in can be located far more accurately.

Mobile phone records include the numbers of the call sender and receiver, the call duration and time. Couple this with location information and you can establish where and when callers made or received a call. This information is often used to verify or knock down alibis in criminal cases.

The difficulty for investigators is establishing the identity of the user if the phone is pay-as-you-go (PAYG) rather than on a pay-monthly contract linked to a bank account. PAYG phones, SIM cards and top-up cards can be bought in-store for cash, leaving no identifying trail for investigators to follow.

And because such phones can be lent or sold to other people, establishing exactly who made a telephone call is made even more difficult.


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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4106 on: June 30, 2020, 09:44:59 AM »
You lambast others and tell them to listen to the factual evidence. I suggest that you acquaint yourself with the facts  instead. Kate McCann wasn't feeding the children in 5A and their friends were at the beach, not getting their children ready for bed.


Kate wasn’t, though

She was in the apartment bathing the children and getting them ready for bed.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4107 on: June 30, 2020, 09:46:01 AM »
There is a thread on page 55 of the McCann board,it concerns phone pings which brought the 3 amigos to granges attention,the relevance to this new suspect I hear you ask,it is this,  just how he cannot be said to be outside of 5a by his phone record.


From 2013
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24386130.


What can phone data tell us?
By Matthew WallTechnology reporter, BBC News

As mobile phones constantly send and receive data from mobile phone masts, a user's location can be identified to within a few hundred metres using triangulation techniques. Modern smartphones with GPS built in can be located far more accurately.

Mobile phone records include the numbers of the call sender and receiver, the call duration and time. Couple this with location information and you can establish where and when callers made or received a call. This information is often used to verify or knock down alibis in criminal cases.

The difficulty for investigators is establishing the identity of the user if the phone is pay-as-you-go (PAYG) rather than on a pay-monthly contract linked to a bank account. PAYG phones, SIM cards and top-up cards can be bought in-store for cash, leaving no identifying trail for investigators to follow.

And because such phones can be lent or sold to other people, establishing exactly who made a telephone call is made even more difficult.


this is why HCW wants to find out who was on the other end of the phone so he can confirm who the call was to
« Last Edit: June 30, 2020, 09:48:38 AM by Davel »

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4108 on: June 30, 2020, 09:47:31 AM »
  ... and what does that have to do with the new prime suspect ?

Thank you, Brietta...that’s what I was wondering?

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4109 on: June 30, 2020, 09:49:56 AM »
You lambast others and tell them to listen to the factual evidence. I suggest that you acquaint yourself with the facts  instead. Kate McCann wasn't feeding the children in 5A and their friends were at the beach, not getting their children ready for bed.


Actually, Gunit, how do you actually know for sure that Kate wasn’t giving the children a bedtime snack? Ice creams, chocolates, biscuits...milk?

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