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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4140 on: June 30, 2020, 12:43:24 PM »
...in 2007, when Madeleine McCann went missing from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, the iPhone was still a month away from going on sale. Most people carried basic mobile phones without touchscreens, internet connections and GPS chips.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/06/03/madeleine-mccann-data-could-investigators-gather-suspects-mobile/

The only way to pinpoint the location of a phone, therefore, was by triangulation. As it's name suggestions, triangulation uses three masts to pinpoint where the phone is.

Afaik there weren't three masts in PdL. There weren't any belonging to the Ocean Club complex either. Firstly because phone masts belong to mobile phone companies and secondly because there was no complex.

Therefore, in my opinion, all that can be said is that a phone was used somewhere near Praia da Luz.


People used the Blackberry years before 2007! And then the iPhone became more popular when it came out.

Surely you’ve heard of the BlackBerry?!

And if you haven’t — it was a Smartphone. You surfed the web, sent emails...everything.

And what do you mean there was no complex in 2007? Whatever are you talking about?

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4141 on: June 30, 2020, 12:46:16 PM »
...in 2007, when Madeleine McCann went missing from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, the iPhone was still a month away from going on sale. Most people carried basic mobile phones without touchscreens, internet connections and GPS chips.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/06/03/madeleine-mccann-data-could-investigators-gather-suspects-mobile/

The only way to pinpoint the location of a phone, therefore, was by triangulation. As it's name suggestions, triangulation uses three masts to pinpoint where the phone is.

Afaik there weren't three masts in PdL. There weren't any belonging to the Ocean Club complex either. Firstly because phone masts belong to mobile phone companies and secondly because there was no complex.

Therefore, in my opinion, all that can be said is that a phone was used somewhere near Praia da Luz.

Oh, and “your opinion” Gunit is wrong.

The police have PROOF CB used his phone by the Ocean Club, so I suggest you offer your unqualified “opinion” to the detective working on the case who has categorically stated FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4142 on: June 30, 2020, 12:49:32 PM »
DCI Mark Cramwell:“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

I don't think the Germans have shared the evidence they have with SY

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4143 on: June 30, 2020, 12:51:25 PM »
I totally agree, and repeating uninformed information from the press doesn't help matters. That's why I correct it.


How are you in a position to correct things you only have an opinion on?

Much of your claims are completely wrong!

You refuse to believe EXPERTS

You refuse to believe a top police officer who’s factually stated what he’s discovered

You refuse to believe people never had Smartphones prior to 2007, when I myself had one

You refuse to believe ANYTHING that YOU don’t like hearing


Out of interest, what is/was your line of work?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4144 on: June 30, 2020, 12:54:30 PM »
Again, you have made the same mistake. I-Phones were not the first devices to include GPS. Here are some mobiles on sale in 2006 which had integrated GPS, most notably Nokia N95.
https://www.mobilegazette.com/retro-2006-13x07x11.htm

Gunit hasn’t even heard of a Blackberry!

And then she claims she knows everything!

In her opinion, of course.... @)(++(*
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4145 on: June 30, 2020, 12:56:28 PM »
I'm more informed than the press are, it seems. A mast belonging to the Ocean Club complex is a rubbish statement, as is the idea of a 'complex'.


You’re more informed than all the police too, aren’t you? @)(++(* @)(++(*
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4146 on: June 30, 2020, 12:57:17 PM »
Regarding GPS, does each ping contain the GPS location, or is it only something that can be used in real time?

Yes it does
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4147 on: June 30, 2020, 01:01:18 PM »
DCI Mark Cramwell:“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.


God, haven’t you heard of diplomatic relations?

The British Police are going to reveal NOTHING at this stage. Not a thing.

Until they’re given the word they’re not even ALLOWED to say anything.
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Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4148 on: June 30, 2020, 01:08:52 PM »
Regarding GPS, does each ping contain the GPS location, or is it only something that can be used in real time?

The software installed in the phone would continuously send the GPS location to the carrier so there would be historic data. I'm not sure how long such data is stored, though.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4149 on: June 30, 2020, 01:10:46 PM »
I don't think the Germans have shared the evidence they have with SY


I agree.

I believe they’ve told SY certain things, but as they have little confidence in them and the Portuguese police, who are deliberately hampering investigations, they’re keeping their cards close to their chest.

Besides that, the British Police won’t reveal anything right now, so they’ll just give out a standard “At this stage we’re treating it as a missing person” which is true, Maddie is missing, but they’re not going to add “We’ve been shown evidence that she is dead by the German police”.

They can’t do that.
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Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4150 on: June 30, 2020, 01:20:16 PM »
Oh, and “your opinion” Gunit is wrong.

The police have PROOF CB used his phone by the Ocean Club, so I suggest you offer your unqualified “opinion” to the detective working on the case who has categorically stated FACTUAL EVIDENCE.

You call this FACTUAL EVIDENCE.- Oh my days we think so not yes it does

TV host Liz Hayes then presses the prosecutor on if they can place Christian B at the scene.

He replies: "Yes, we think so."



 there never was a "mast belonging to the Ocean Club".  There is a mast near the water tower
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4151 on: June 30, 2020, 01:32:40 PM »
The software installed in the phone would continuously send the GPS location to the carrier so there would be historic data. I'm not sure how long such data is stored, though.


I need to ask but I think with iCloud it’s indefinitely

Technology is leaping ahead all the time, but I seem to remember someone saying different servers store data for various times. I seem to remember being told it’s usually about 10 years, but it can vary. Some keep it longer, some less.

I suspect from now on it could be kept forever...

I know someone who works for intelligence, but he doesn’t tell me much (I’m too nosy) but he “breaks” into computers and phones for the government — no idea how — so I expect that’s definitely how the German police tracked all CB’s conversations on the dark web when he said “wouldn’t everyone love to steal a little girl and use them and torture them for days”

God, and someone on HERE said they wouldn’t mind having a drink with him!



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Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4152 on: June 30, 2020, 01:40:42 PM »
I don't think the Germans have shared the evidence they have with SY
Or they have and it's useless.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4153 on: June 30, 2020, 01:52:33 PM »
You call this FACTUAL EVIDENCE.- Oh my days we think so not yes it does

TV host Liz Hayes then presses the prosecutor on if they can place Christian B at the scene.

He replies: "Yes, we think so."



 there never was a "mast belonging to the Ocean Club".  There is a mast near the water tower


You need to learn how to assimilate information

HCW is a top homicide detective with YEARS of experience.

He can also speak two languages — he’s intelligent and well-educated — but hs English isn’t 100% fluent

But he’s far more knowledgeable than you are, has vastly more superior intelligence about the case than you do, and he’s repeatedly said he’s seen EVIDENCE that Maddie is dead and that he knows how she died. And he’s also said Christian Buerbeck murdered her.

And when he said “yes, I think so” in answer to Liz Hayes question he may have said that deliberately as he’s very, very clever, or it could have even been the fact German is his first language and when translating in your head as you speak, you often use words that aren’t 100% precise. I do it. So I know what I’m talking about.

You’ve simply searched LOOKING for something (which is nothing) because for some reason the McCanns’ annoy you. You have it on your bio. You need to get over it, because in time CN WILL be charged and convicted, and you’ll have to find someone else to take your anger out on. You’ve besmirched Kate and Gerry for years...it’s really not normal. Do you feel OK, usually? I wouldn’t like to think you’re unhappy
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4154 on: June 30, 2020, 01:58:20 PM »
Or they have and it's useless.


WW2 ended a long time ago, General...

I know you might still be smarting that they bombed your Bingo Hall just as you were about to shout HOUSE, but it isnt’t Hans Christian Woltor’s fault you lost half a crown  ^*&&
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