New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Eleanor]

Can a McCann sceptic explain to me why the McCanns (who you think are involved in Madeleine’s disappearance) seem reluctant to accept that the Germans have got strong evidence that their daughter died at the hands of CB?  I mean, if this guy is the perfect suspect and everything can be pinned on him why wouldn’t they be reacting more positively to this news as in “so grateful to the Germans for id’ing this suspect, we hope they find enough evidence to charge him and hope that they soon find our daughter’s body so that we can finally gain closure”?  Any explanations please feel free to share.

Too much egg on too many faces.

[kizzy]

Can a McCann sceptic explain to me why the McCanns (who you think are involved in Madeleine’s disappearance) seem reluctant to accept that the Germans have got strong evidence that their daughter died at the hands of CB?  I mean, if this guy is the perfect suspect and everything can be pinned on him why wouldn’t they be reacting more positively to this news as in “so grateful to the Germans for id’ing this suspect, we hope they find enough evidence to charge him and hope that they soon find our daughter’s body so that we can finally gain closure”?  Any explanations please feel free to share.

Can a McCann sceptic explain to me why the McCanns (who you think are involved in Madeleine’s disappearance) seem reluctant to accept that the Germans have got strong evidence that their daughter died at the hands of CB?



Well I can step forward to answer that for myself VS seeing you ask so nicely'

I am 100% the mccs are involved so in my mind how can I think its him

I have been following this case on and off 13 years. If it wasn't for me not being convinced it was them I would have been gone long ago, I don't come on here for fun.

Been on here for seven years, I have very early on tried to think of them as innocent but it never lasted very long.

I have thought there is something more to it, people in higher places IMO do not want the mccs to ever be guilty of being involved.

Okay, he is a vile person who no one cares I suppose if he lives or dies.  But what will you think if he ends up dead with the concrete evidence being hearsay and he is then branded the abductor?

[Wonderfulspam]

Can a McCann sceptic explain to me why the McCanns (who you think are involved in Madeleine’s disappearance) seem reluctant to accept that the Germans have got strong evidence that their daughter died at the hands of CB?  I mean, if this guy is the perfect suspect and everything can be pinned on him why wouldn’t they be reacting more positively to this news as in “so grateful to the Germans for id’ing this suspect, we hope they find enough evidence to charge him and hope that they soon find our daughter’s body so that we can finally gain closure”?  Any explanations please feel free to share.

Maybe because they know CB won't be charged with anything.............because he didn't do it.

[Mr Gray]

Can a McCann sceptic explain to me why the McCanns (who you think are involved in Madeleine’s disappearance) seem reluctant to accept that the Germans have got strong evidence that their daughter died at the hands of CB?



Well I can step forward to answer that for myself VS seeing you ask so nicely'

I am 100% the mccs are involved so in my mind how can I think its him

I have been following this case on and off 13 years. If it wasn't for me not being convinced it was them I would have been gone long ago, I don't come on here for fun.

Been on here for seven years, I have very early on tried to think of them as innocent but it never lasted very long.

I have thought there is something more to it, people in higher places IMO do not want the mccs to ever be guilty of being involved.

Okay, he is a vile person who no one cares I suppose if he lives or dies.  But what will you think if he ends up dead with the concrete evidence being hearsay and he is then branded the abductor?

In that hypothetical situation it seems based on your and your fellow sceptics thinking it would be very fair to say that he hasnt been cleared and he hasnt been proven innocent and of course that abduction is 100% certain .

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Maybe because they know CB won't be charged with anything.............because he didn't do it.

And a defence lawyer would surely ask Dr Perlin to make a more conclusive account of DNA samples previously tested by the FSS.

[kizzy]

In that hypothetical situation it seems based on your and your fellow sceptics thinking it would be very fair to say that he hasnt been cleared and he hasnt been proven innocent and of course that abduction is 100% certain .

No D I stated if you read properly It is my reason.. mine - me - mwah, nothing to do with fellow skeptics

The rest I don't follow what you mean

[Vertigo Swirl]

Can a McCann sceptic explain to me why the McCanns (who you think are involved in Madeleine’s disappearance) seem reluctant to accept that the Germans have got strong evidence that their daughter died at the hands of CB?



Well I can step forward to answer that for myself VS seeing you ask so nicely'

I am 100% the mccs are involved so in my mind how can I think its him

I have been following this case on and off 13 years. If it wasn't for me not being convinced it was them I would have been gone long ago, I don't come on here for fun.

Been on here for seven years, I have very early on tried to think of them as innocent but it never lasted very long.

I have thought there is something more to it, people in higher places IMO do not want the mccs to ever be guilty of being involved.

Okay, he is a vile person who no one cares I suppose if he lives or dies.  But what will you think if he ends up dead with the concrete evidence being hearsay and he is then branded the abductor?

All very fascinating but sadly you didn’t answer the question.  Never mind.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Maybe because they know CB won't be charged with anything.............because he didn't do it.

That really doesn’t make much sense but thanks for trying. 

[kizzy]

And a defence lawyer would surely ask Dr Perlin to make a more conclusive account of DNA samples previously tested by the FSS.

Especially when in TOTL GA stated he wished he had never sent the results to Birmingham FSS

Then IIRC the B/lab was deeply criticized for cases it had botched up.

The FSS suffered damage to its reputation following the failure to recover blood stains from a shoe in the murder of Damilola Taylor.[5] Further damage occurred when the FSS failed to use the most up-to-date techniques for extracting DNA sample

GA SNIP

As for the English authorities, Amaral believes that they too "are looking for paedophiles who fit in the abduction theory, without however proving that there has been an abduction".

The cadaver dogs, brought by the British authorities, detected blood in the house, but that evidence was eventually depreciated. "The English laboratory wrecked the results", said Gonçalo Amaral, who reproaches the laboratory technician of expressing opinions about the results.

[Wonderfulspam]

That really doesn’t make much sense but thanks for trying.

Ok I'll break it down a little.

You asked...

Can a McCann sceptic explain to me why the McCanns (who you think are involved in Madeleine’s disappearance) seem reluctant to accept that the Germans have got strong evidence that their daughter died at the hands of CB?

Answer:  Maybe because they don't have strong evidence?

"Operation Grange Statement: June 19, 2020
The Met received one letter from the BKA on 12 June, which was passed to the family. The letter did not state that there was evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead, the MPS continues to investigate Madeleine’s disappearance as a missing person investigation. No letter has been received by the Met from the German prosecutor."


Then you ask:

"I mean, if this guy is the perfect suspect and everything can be pinned on him why wouldn’t they be reacting more positively to this news as in “so grateful to the Germans for id’ing this suspect, we hope they find enough evidence to charge him and hope that they soon find our daughter’s body so that we can finally gain closure”?

Answer: They know he won't be charged with anything so why would they waste their breath.

[Mr Gray]

No D I stated if you read properly It is my reason.. mine - me - mwah, nothing to do with fellow skeptics

The rest I don't follow what you mean

I'll try and make it simpler.

If he isnt charged or dies it doesnt mean he didnt do it. He hasn't been cleared and he hasn't been proved to be innocent. I will still think 100% he was involved

Is that better

[kizzy]

All very fascinating but sadly you didn’t answer the question.  Never mind.

Well surely if I don't believe the abduction - I don't believe CB is responsible

does that answer it. VS

You didn't answer mine - if he died tomorrow would you still think he was the abductor on what you know.

[Eleanor]

I hope you all realise that none of your protestations will make a scrap of difference.  So perhaps you could all cool it a bit and not get quite so carried away.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Especially when in TOTL GA stated he wished he had never sent the results to Birmingham FSS

Then IIRC the B/lab was deeply criticized for cases it had botched up.

The FSS suffered damage to its reputation following the failure to recover blood stains from a shoe in the murder of Damilola Taylor.[5] Further damage occurred when the FSS failed to use the most up-to-date techniques for extracting DNA sample

GA SNIP

As for the English authorities, Amaral believes that they too "are looking for paedophiles who fit in the abduction theory, without however proving that there has been an abduction".

The cadaver dogs, brought by the British authorities, detected blood in the house, but that evidence was eventually depreciated. "The English laboratory wrecked the results", said Gonçalo Amaral, who reproaches the laboratory technician of expressing opinions about the results.

Never mind what GA says. Listen to Dr Perlin. His methods have been tested in court cases. He has excellent forensic science credentials and he states he can separate out the individual contributors in the samples using the digital data that OG have confirmed they still have.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Ok I'll break it down a little.

You asked...

Can a McCann sceptic explain to me why the McCanns (who you think are involved in Madeleine’s disappearance) seem reluctant to accept that the Germans have got strong evidence that their daughter died at the hands of CB?

Answer:  Maybe because they don't have strong evidence?

"Operation Grange Statement: June 19, 2020
The Met received one letter from the BKA on 12 June, which was passed to the family. The letter did not state that there was evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead, the MPS continues to investigate Madeleine’s disappearance as a missing person investigation. No letter has been received by the Met from the German prosecutor."


Then you ask:

"I mean, if this guy is the perfect suspect and everything can be pinned on him why wouldn’t they be reacting more positively to this news as in “so grateful to the Germans for id’ing this suspect, we hope they find enough evidence to charge him and hope that they soon find our daughter’s body so that we can finally gain closure”?

Answer: They know he won't be charged with anything so why would they waste their breath.

But the police have stated publicly that there is strong evidence and that they are convinced they have their man, so why would the McCanns know in advance that he won’t be charged? Even if he isn’t charged the assumption will be that the reason he wasn’t was because the police were unable to get any stronger evidence on him. It doesn’t mean he would be in the clear and the suspicion it was him will linger forever.  And yet the McCanns are refusing to play along with this, if they are guilty that makes no sense, he is after all “the perfect scapegoat”.