New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It was claimed by them that they had been. It was claimed in the libel trial that the archiving dispatch was a legal decision equal to an acquital. The Supreme Court said it wasn't.

And?

[faithlilly]

I totally agree. Also, Kate and Gerry were advised by Danie Krugel to bring in the dogs. GA was out of his depth and he pulled the blame-game. German authorities have nothing to prove/lose with Madeleine’s disappearance. They obviously found significant evidence, relating to Madeleine, in their search for Inga Gehricke. In my mother tongue, it is called ‘die geluk by die ongeluk’ which loosely translates to  ‘fortune with the misfortune’. Ps. Danie lives approximately 5 kms from me. I have met him once and his ‘device’ used in PdL, has since been patented.

Both you and Amaral are wrong. The dogs were nothing to do with the parents but where brought in at the suggestion of the British, Mark Harrison I believe.

[faithlilly]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11995367/madeleine-mccan-suspect-bungled-rape-case/

CATALOGUE OF ERRORS Madeleine McCann suspect could have been caught two years BEFORE she vanished – but Portuguese cops bungled case
Nick Parker
30 Jun 2020, 22:00Updated: 30 Jun 2020, 22:04

MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B could have been nailed two years before she vanished — but Portuguese police blundered over evidence in a rape case.

Clothes and rope from a villa where Christian B raped a US woman in 2005 were not DNA tested, so he was not caught until 2017.
The villa is a short stroll from the Praia da Luz apartment where Madeleine was snatched in May 2007.

The case was mothballed amid a catalogue of errors by Portuguese police with the attacker still at large.

Christian B, 43, was finally arrested over the rape in 2017 and convicted in December after ­German police reinvestigated and did DNA tests on a sample of body hair from the villa.

The villa, called Casa Jacaranda, was only a ten-minute stroll from the apartment in Praia da Luz where Madeleine, three, was snatched in May 2007.


After her disappearance Portuguese police failed to seal off the McCann family holiday apartment for almost 24 hours.

It led to a crime scene contamination by up to 50 people. Cleaners washed bed sheets and ash from officers’ cigarettes was found in evidence samples. The 2005 rape inquiry was abandoned after just five months.

A red T-shirt which was ripped up by the attacker and stuffed in his victim’s mouth was not DNA tested. Neither was nylon rope used to tie her hands.

Official documents show Carlos Farinha, then Director of the Judicial Police’s Forensic Science Laboratory, wrote in a letter dated November 28, 2009: “We have learned by telephone that the examination is no longer necessary.

“We are therefore cancelling the tests and returning the material sent to us for analysis.”

Three weeks ago German cops said they have evidence Madeleine is dead and identified Christian B as the prime suspect in her abduction.

Kate and Gerry McCann say they have not been officially told there is evidence their daughter is dead.

German prosecutors are now convinced the mistakes made by Portuguese police in the 2005 rape case left child sex offender Christian B free to snatch Madeleine.

Drug dealer Christian B emerged as a possible suspect in the rape after a former friend told German police he had shown off a video of a sex attack.

Earlier this month it was revealed evidence linking Christian B to a 2005 sex attack on a ­ten-year-old British girl could also be gathering dust in Portuguese police stores.

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You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. Is it PJ incompetence, a xenophobic attitude towards foreign victims of crime or something far more sinister?

I suppose it’s more interesting than the Sun’s McCann story of the day today in which we are informed that Kate may be one of the first of the faithful after lockdown to attend the local Catholic church to pray.....except they forgot Leicester is still locked down. Heaven knows what delights they have in store for us in the coming days......Gerry has to take some slacks back to M&S, then changes his mind....the McCann’s postman continues to bring them their mail, even during the lockdown......oh the excitement of it all.

[misty]

I suppose it’s more interesting than the Sun’s McCann story of the day today in which we are informed that Kate may be one of the first of the faithful after lockdown to attend the local Catholic church to pray.....except they forgot Leicester is still locked down. Heaven knows what delights they have in store for us in the coming days......Gerry has to take some slacks back to M&S, then changes his mind....the McCann’s postman continues to bring them their mail, even during the lockdown......oh the excitement of it all.

Here's a random but interesting fact for you. Insp. Jorge Reis & Insp. Carlos Pimenta, who respectively took statements from the American & Irish rape victims, both worked on Madeleine's case.

[Holly Goodhead]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11995367/madeleine-mccan-suspect-bungled-rape-case/

CATALOGUE OF ERRORS Madeleine McCann suspect could have been caught two years BEFORE she vanished – but Portuguese cops bungled case
Nick Parker
30 Jun 2020, 22:00Updated: 30 Jun 2020, 22:04

MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B could have been nailed two years before she vanished — but Portuguese police blundered over evidence in a rape case.

Clothes and rope from a villa where Christian B raped a US woman in 2005 were not DNA tested, so he was not caught until 2017.
The villa is a short stroll from the Praia da Luz apartment where Madeleine was snatched in May 2007.

The case was mothballed amid a catalogue of errors by Portuguese police with the attacker still at large.

Christian B, 43, was finally arrested over the rape in 2017 and convicted in December after ­German police reinvestigated and did DNA tests on a sample of body hair from the villa.

The villa, called Casa Jacaranda, was only a ten-minute stroll from the apartment in Praia da Luz where Madeleine, three, was snatched in May 2007.


After her disappearance Portuguese police failed to seal off the McCann family holiday apartment for almost 24 hours.

It led to a crime scene contamination by up to 50 people. Cleaners washed bed sheets and ash from officers’ cigarettes was found in evidence samples. The 2005 rape inquiry was abandoned after just five months.

A red T-shirt which was ripped up by the attacker and stuffed in his victim’s mouth was not DNA tested. Neither was nylon rope used to tie her hands.

Official documents show Carlos Farinha, then Director of the Judicial Police’s Forensic Science Laboratory, wrote in a letter dated November 28, 2009: “We have learned by telephone that the examination is no longer necessary.

“We are therefore cancelling the tests and returning the material sent to us for analysis.”

Three weeks ago German cops said they have evidence Madeleine is dead and identified Christian B as the prime suspect in her abduction.

Kate and Gerry McCann say they have not been officially told there is evidence their daughter is dead.

German prosecutors are now convinced the mistakes made by Portuguese police in the 2005 rape case left child sex offender Christian B free to snatch Madeleine.

Drug dealer Christian B emerged as a possible suspect in the rape after a former friend told German police he had shown off a video of a sex attack.

Earlier this month it was revealed evidence linking Christian B to a 2005 sex attack on a ­ten-year-old British girl could also be gathering dust in Portuguese police stores.

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You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. Is it PJ incompetence, a xenophobic attitude towards foreign victims of crime or something far more sinister?

Do you think The Sun is a reliable source Misty? 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/mar/20/dailyexpress.dailystar

I transcribed info from BKA website and the rest is hearsay imo.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11633.msg601327#msg601327

[Mr Gray]

Here's a random but interesting fact for you. Insp. Jorge Reis & Insp. Carlos Pimenta, who respectively took statements from the American & Irish rape victims, both worked on Madeleine's case.

Then we have this...

Portuguese police 'failed to DNA test evidence in 2005 rape case which could have led to capture of Madeleine McCann prime suspect two years before British girl's disappearance'


No wonder theres no evidence against Breukner.

What another absolute disgrace. To keep things in perspective if sceptics want to post stories of UK police they think justifies this then only cases directly associated with the case should be cited

[Mr Gray]

Do you think The Sun is a reliable source Misty? 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/mar/20/dailyexpress.dailystar

I transcribed info from BKA website and the rest is hearsay imo.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11633.msg601327#msg601327

What is fact is there does not sem to be any DNA kept from teh Irish case...why not

[Holly Goodhead]

Here's a random but interesting fact for you. Insp. Jorge Reis & Insp. Carlos Pimenta, who respectively took statements from the American & Irish rape victims, both worked on Madeleine's case.

Here's a random but interesting fact for you, at one time or another Commander Simon Foy of the MET has presided over the following cases:

- Murder of Daniel Morgan (1987) - 30 million - case unsolved.

- Murder of Jill Dando (1999) - (cost unknown) - case unsolved.

- Disappearance of Madeleine McCann (2007/2013 actively involved)  - cost 12/13 million - case unsolved.

[Mr Gray]

Here's a random but interesting fact for you, at one time or another Commander Simon Foy of the MET has presided over the following cases:

- Murder of Daniel Morgan (1987) - 30 million - case unsolved.

- Murder of Jill Dando (1999) - (cost unknown) - case unsolved.

- Disappearance of Madeleine McCann (2007/2013 actively involved)  - cost 12/13 million - case unsolved.

You need to compare like with like....we only know about the failures in teh PJ connected to the maddie case...there could be many mnay more. In order to compare like with like you should only raise failings directly related to teh present investigation. If the PJ had tested DNA at the rape cases it may well be Maddie would not have been abducted and killed

[Holly Goodhead]

What is fact is there does not sem to be any DNA kept from teh Irish case...why not

You are using the words 'fact' and 'seem' together? 

[Holly Goodhead]

You need to compare like with like....we only know about the failures in teh PJ connected to the maddie case...there could be many mnay more. In order to compare like with like you should only raise failings directly related to teh present investigation. If the PJ had tested DNA at the rape cases it may well be Maddie would not have been abducted and killed

I am comparing like for like in that SF has presided over 3 high profile cases, costing tax-payers 000's, all of which remain unsolved.

[Mr Gray]

You are using the words 'fact' and 'seem' together?

My post is perfectly good english

[Vertigo Swirl]

I am comparing like for like in that SF has presided over 3 high profile cases, costing tax-payers 000's, all of which remain unsolved.

Perhaps it’s time to start rubbishing the German police as it’s their theory we are discussing on this thread?

[Mr Gray]

I am comparing like for like in that SF has presided over 3 high profile cases, costing tax-payers 000's, all of which remain unsolved.

To compare like with like you need to give us comparsble data from the PJ... Go ahead

[Holly Goodhead]

To compete like with like you need to give us vomparsble data from the PJ... Go ahead

You guys need to supply the data I'm not the one slating PJ.