New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[G-Unit]

Of course the man in charge of the PJ is one of the men who was in charge of the first investigation.

[Holly Goodhead]

Of course the man in charge of the PJ is one of the men who was in charge of the first investigation.

Who is?

[Sherlock Holmes]

Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I wonder if this mystery phone call has anything to do with the GNR being called out on another job just before calls notifying them of Madeleine's disappearance came in, causing the delay in their arrival at OC?

[Eleanor]

Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I wonder if this mystery phone call has anything to do with the GNR being called out on another job just before calls notifying them of Madeleine's disappearance came in, causing the delay in their arrival at OC?

I would like to hear a bit more about that.  It has been on my mind for some time.

[Holly Goodhead]

Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I wonder if this mystery phone call has anything to do with the GNR being called out on another job just before calls notifying them of Madeleine's disappearance came in, causing the delay in their arrival at OC?

The 'mystery' phone call was made at 7.32 pm and ended 8.02 pm.  The call re MM's disappearance was well after 10.00 pm. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The 'mystery' phone call was made at 7.32 pm and ended 8.02 pm.  The call re MM's disappearance was well after 10.00 pm.

Uh-huh. I wonder what the other job was and when the GNR were called out on that. It could also have been earlier in the evening. There was much discussion on this topic a while back...I must refresh my memory of it.

[pathfinder73]

Who is?

Luís Neves

[sadie]

You need to compare like with like....we only know about the failures in teh PJ connected to the maddie case...there could be many mnay more. In order to compare like with like you should only raise failings directly related to teh present investigation. If the PJ had tested DNA at the rape cases it may well be Maddie would not have been abducted and killed

Soz Dave, but I think you are jumping the gun.

I agree about the abduction and CB quite probably being involved …. but then, maybe not.   There are Red Herrings out there IMO.  As far as I have seen there is nothing to indicate that he, or someone, else has killed Madeleine. 

I think that Madeleine is still alive and the master perps want it to become accepted that she is dead.   CB is undoubtedly a nasty piece of work, but he talked about doing a dirty job and then having a load of money …. and he would be away for a while. 

I think that CB is the Master abductors PATSY; he was easy to frame.   With Madeleine globally accepted as dead the perps can relax and use her as they always planned, unimpeded.  She is part of a family now, I believe, and probably much loved as their daughter, but with something in mind for later … or even nowish.

[sadie]

It seems to me that The PJ don't have a brain between them.

Oh I think there are some good brains and a fair number of honest hard working PJ Policemen.  Trouble is that the hard working honest ones are overwhelmed by the sometimes dishonest ones and the "Old School" ones, who seem to hold senior positions in the PJ

Soz to disagree, Elli.

Ya know, it is almost as though there is a senior group in place in the PJ who only select Officers for promotion who are Old school … so the old school, pre revolution, fascist bullying etc. habits carry on ad-infinitim

[Holly Goodhead]

Luís Neves

Sounds a moderniser/reformer

https://www.dn.pt/edicao-do-dia/30-mai-2020/nao-e-saudavel-para-a-democracia-que-os-corruptos-demorem-a-ser-julgados-12256468.html

[sadie]

Exactly.  It makes no sense at all that a sleepy coastal community on the Algarve with a population of some 3.5k with this guy in everyone's midst and yet somehow slipped under the radar!

At one time some 80 MET officers were assigned to the case.  Its been running for some 7 years at a cost of 12/13 million and this is the end result 

IMO, It makes one wonder if someone senior in the PJ was protecting him ?   Why ?

[sadie]

Makes you wonder what have they been spending the money on...when it seems the Germans are making all the appeals.

Wonder if the SY will still be getting more money - seeing CB is supposed to be there man

But is he ?   Or is he some master traffickers patsy ?  With his evil background and inability to defend himself in prison, has he been set up by them ?

[Holly Goodhead]

Oh I think there are some good brains and a fair number of honest hard working PJ Policemen.  Trouble is that the hard working honest ones are overwhelmed by the sometimes dishonest ones and the "Old School" ones, who seem to hold senior positions in the PJ

Soz to disagree, Elli.

Ya know, it is almost as though there is a senior group in place in the PJ who only select Officers for promotion who are Old school … so the old school, pre revolution, fascist bullying etc. habits carry on ad-infinitim

The days of Amaral are long gone along with his burgeoning waistline.

https://www.dn.pt/edicao-do-dia/30-mai-2020/nao-e-saudavel-para-a-democracia-que-os-corruptos-demorem-a-ser-julgados-12256468.html

Much of the criticism imo stems from prejudices about North European countries, particularly G7 members, being superior to their Southern counterparts. 

[Holly Goodhead]

But is he ?   Or is he some master traffickers patsy ?  With his evil background and inability to defend himself in prison, has he been set up by them ?

I agree it all sounds very odd.

[sadie]

No. Afaik against the law to do so. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11633.msg601327#msg601327

And could that be his get out of jail card ?  Who gave out his name originally ?  Was it Amaral ?