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Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4575 on: July 03, 2020, 11:07:25 AM »
Mr and Mrs T were only a few metres away from 5A and MM shortly before she disappeared no dodgy phone evidence needed in a futile attempt to prove. Moreover its likely the pair knew about the Mc's MO of an evening and the recent attempted burglary up above hence the 'staged' window/shutter.

No one knows the motive. 

Some here have highly prejudiced minds and can't conceive of seemingly law abiding ordinary people abducting a child for whatever reason.  I have no such problem because that's what the evidence supports.

A quote from the first arguido...
"So I am supposed to have planned the kidnapping of a little girl inside 50 hours," he told me, shaking his head.

"In that time, I supposedly identified the apartment where she was sleeping and spied on her, and worked out the times her parents went to dinner each night, then took her away. It's ludicrous."


Based on the fact your own suspects made one previous visit to Block 5 on Sunday 29th April when the T9 hadn't even taken their first dinner at Tapas Bar, how on earth would they have known about what would become the McCanns' routine for the week? Your suspects were in the Algarve to buy a property, not commit the crime of the century. My money would always be on people who had means, motive & opportunity to steal a child.
BTW What is an acceptable source of information for you - one that doesn't have direct quotes from a potential witness?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4576 on: July 03, 2020, 11:12:25 AM »

It all revolves around the mobile they have to prove the phone is his.

Not just a written down number in a phone book.

It seems to me they are desperate to put a name to the phone number.

Even if the authorities can place CB and his phone in close proximity to 5A, which I very much doubt, but so what maybe en route to supermarket or collect takeaway from Tapas. 

The police are desperate to get a resolve and clutching at straws: guy with previous, incl we're told child sex abuse and theft/burglary, drifted around the area in a campervan, had a mobile and call in the PDL area an hour or two before MM disappeared.  So what? It's not even circumstantial evidence.  It's just someone who needs ruling out because he has previous.

Others with camper vans were ruled out: Barrington and the Romanians.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4577 on: July 03, 2020, 11:16:28 AM »
A quote from the first arguido...
"So I am supposed to have planned the kidnapping of a little girl inside 50 hours," he told me, shaking his head.

"In that time, I supposedly identified the apartment where she was sleeping and spied on her, and worked out the times her parents went to dinner each night, then took her away. It's ludicrous."


Based on the fact your own suspects made one previous visit to Block 5 on Sunday 29th April when the T9 hadn't even taken their first dinner at Tapas Bar, how on earth would they have known about what would become the McCanns' routine for the week? Your suspects were in the Algarve to buy a property, not commit the crime of the century. My money would always be on people who had means, motive & opportunity to steal a child.
BTW What is an acceptable source of information for you - one that doesn't have direct quotes from a potential witness?

I rather think the T's not only observed much with their own eyes but got to hear a lot through Ms F too!

With regard to your other points may I suggest you put both wit stats, Ms T and Ms F, under the microscope and look again. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4578 on: July 03, 2020, 11:22:03 AM »
There's irrefutable evidence that a) Mc's were in 5a, b) in close proximity to MM when she disappeared and c) all the stats show when small children come to harm/disappear its usually at the hands of their caregivers as opposed to strangers.

There's not a shred of evidence CB ever stepped inside 5a or had any contact whatsoever with MM.  Just a bunch of desperate cops who are trying to construct a case against CB out of thin air.

It depends on whats on the memory stick.

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4579 on: July 03, 2020, 11:27:27 AM »
I rather think the T's not only observed much with their own eyes but got to hear a lot through Ms F too!

With regard to your other points may I suggest you put both wit stats, Ms T and Ms F, under the microscope and look again.

I would prefer you to provide links to the aspects of the 2 statements which tend to support the occupant & visitors of 5G having had a detailed knowledge of the McCann family routine that week.

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4580 on: July 03, 2020, 11:33:28 AM »
Does anyone really know as fact that the mobile actually belonged to CB.

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4581 on: July 03, 2020, 11:35:16 AM »
Mention was made of Nicole Fehlinger and her father, Dieter who described the Winnebago conversation. Brückner lived on and off with her and her then boyfriend, Roman in Foral at Villa Bianca. I wonder if investigators were able to track them down? She ran a rehabilitation programme for German children at the time.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11808690/madeleine-mccann-suspect-gun-criminal-foral/

The German police have been very canny in not issuing details of the approximate location of the unknown mobile phone holder at the time of the call on 3rd May. There must be a very good reason for that.
I would hope that if NF had been tracked down then she would be able to provide police with more details about Roman's whereabouts.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4582 on: July 03, 2020, 11:36:32 AM »
It depends on whats on the memory stick.

If its incriminating why are the authorities appealing for info about vehicles and tel numbers?  And why no charges? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4583 on: July 03, 2020, 11:42:59 AM »
I would prefer you to provide links to the aspects of the 2 statements which tend to support the occupant & visitors of 5G having had a detailed knowledge of the McCann family routine that week.

I'll pm you later. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4584 on: July 03, 2020, 11:47:25 AM »
It depends on whats on the memory stick.
Why not charge him with possession of indecent images of children as a minimum?
It's clearly no smoking gun (I hate that idiom) in respect of him clearly being identifiable perpetrating some heinous act, so what's left to charge him with?
If this is just a build-a-case effort, then they may have shot themselves in the face if they can't make all the threads come together.
We assume they have:
- a memory stick found under a dead dog
- a phone ping (let's put the azimuth / triangulation aside for a moment)
- logged phone calls in 'the vicinty' (see above)
- a suspect who was in the general locale, indeed he lived there
- a suspect with matching deviant proclivities
- a witness statement from an erstwhile confederate / associate

What they don't have (assumed):
- a body
- an eye witness
- any DNA harvested
- any other forensics
- a confession
- corroboration of the phone calls
- not enough incriminating evidence on the memory stick (but surely enough to charge him with something?)

To make such an extraordinary appeal confirms the assumption that their version of the CPS has refused them leave to charge, so the evidence isn't enough.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4585 on: July 03, 2020, 11:48:59 AM »
If its incriminating why are the authorities appealing for info about vehicles and tel numbers?  And why no charges?
Because at the moment they dont want to reveal the evidence they have...as I recall this is what they have said

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4586 on: July 03, 2020, 11:54:40 AM »
We do know they do have enough to arrest him.

we actually dont know that...they dont need to arrest him...hes going nowhere

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4587 on: July 03, 2020, 12:09:36 PM »
Because at the moment they dont want to reveal the evidence they have...as I recall this is what they have said

So they tell us, yes, but it begs the q if its anywhere near good why the need to for the publics help in assisting with vehicles and tel numbers?  The vehicles by all accounts  belonged to CB.  Are they hoping someone saw one of these vehicles in a remote location so they can plead with PJ to bring in Grimes and his dogs and start digging? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4588 on: July 03, 2020, 12:16:30 PM »
So they tell us, yes, but it begs the q if its anywhere near good why the need to for the publics help in assisting with vehicles and tel numbers?  The vehicles by all accounts  belonged to CB.  Are they hoping someone saw one of these vehicles in a remote location so they can plead with PJ to bring in Grimes and his dogs and start digging?

Its not my place to second guess the investigation...obviously if that vehicle was seen around 5a that night it would be highly significant.

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4589 on: July 03, 2020, 12:19:46 PM »
So they tell us, yes, but it begs the q if its anywhere near good why the need to for the publics help in assisting with vehicles and tel numbers?  The vehicles by all accounts  belonged to CB.  Are they hoping someone saw one of these vehicles in a remote location so they can plead with PJ to bring in Grimes and his dogs and start digging?

The police may have background images at the location where a crime against Madeleine was committed. It would assist the police to know where CB's known vehicle's were between the time Madeleine was taken & the time/date on the images to narrow the search areas down.
Alternatively, if records show that the phone attributed to CB was inactive for a period of time after the 7.32pm phone call, the police would need to investigate the reason for that.