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Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5115 on: July 11, 2020, 10:42:07 AM »
Maybe, but it also sums up Jassi, and I note you didn't take exception to any other part of my post so I guess that was all fair comment.


Well, my logic there is others mentioned all have a mind of there own...if they wish to comment.

You were right about me...apart from I am not here for a laugh.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5116 on: July 11, 2020, 10:45:27 AM »
Maybe, but it also sums up Jassi, and I note you didn't take exception to any other part of my post so I guess that was all fair comment.

Quite frankly your comments are of no consequence.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5117 on: July 11, 2020, 10:46:46 AM »
What is the timing for this?

Were the divers in the wells before or after the man's body was found?

Just checked the link ... the report was 21st May.

So
A man from the Netherlands was found dead 2 months ago in Vilo do Bispo ,

That's what the PJ could be investigating there . Nothing to do with Madeleine

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5118 on: July 11, 2020, 10:48:36 AM »
As wells are being discussed here, I shall, as requested , post here about possible phone pings -

from latest news -

Yes, I meant besides that one.

If her body was deposited there, then further phone logging in the area at that might be expected.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5119 on: July 11, 2020, 10:53:46 AM »

Thats not what a lot of others have said....I wonder why the disparity. Ian horrocks who visited PDL said an abductorA man from the Netherlands was found dead 2 months ago in Vilo do Bispo , that's what the PJ are investigating there . Nothing to do with Madeleine...as did the Barclay team.....ST under Redwood...yes....and SY more recently the same...  the germans..an abductor.

the PJ really didnt have a clue IMO

That could apply to anyone ....and IMO reason for not leaving any proof of abduction

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5120 on: July 11, 2020, 10:57:19 AM »
The problem with the post 2008 investigations, especially Grange,  is that we know that the investigators didn’t start at the beginning and clear the ground from beneath them. They concluded that the parent’s innocence or guilt had been dealt with by the Portuguese investigation, even though that had ended without, as the SC judged, them being cleared.

Almost ten years on and the situation hasn’t changed. Suspects come and go, and we have yet to see whether there is any concrete evidence against Brueckner, but one thing remains...that OG did not investigate the parents and by that they did them a great disservice for if Brueckner, or anyone else,  is not charged there will be that question mark hanging over their heads forever. Supporters know this and that’s why they are so desperate for Brueckner to be the perpetrator.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2020, 11:47:34 AM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5121 on: July 11, 2020, 11:16:44 AM »
Quite frankly your comments are of no consequence.
And quite frankly my dear, neither are yours.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5122 on: July 11, 2020, 11:17:56 AM »
Muddying of the waters,they're possible searching for a murder weapon,and some one added 1+1 to make 5 and the press ran with the McCann story cause its the one everybody will link to involving searches in and near to luz, imo.

Nothing to see here,next please.
Of course not, wake me up when they're kicking down doors in rothley, won't be long now.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5123 on: July 11, 2020, 11:18:20 AM »
Martin B. just about keeping up with Sandra F... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgcMSkvBiPA

I raised the question nearly a year ago about whether anyone had been hanging around schools:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11007.msg554924#msg554924

Surely PJ, MET and the 4 private detective agencies would have spoken with head teachers and/or the equivalent of PTA associations.  Astonishing that this has only come to light in the last few days if what we're being led to believe is correct.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5124 on: July 11, 2020, 11:18:28 AM »
And quite frankly my dear, neither are yours.


Fine. Reply not necessary   8)--))
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5125 on: July 11, 2020, 11:21:13 AM »
I raised the question nearly a year ago about whether anyone had been hanging around schools:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11007.msg554924#msg554924

Surely PJ, MET and the 4 private detective agencies would have spoken with head teachers and/or the equivalent of PTA associations.  Astonishing that this has only come to light in the last few days if what we're being led to believe is correct.

I doubt Grange would as it would have involved an awful lot of bureaucracy  seeing as how they had no investigative powers in Portugal
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5126 on: July 11, 2020, 11:47:27 AM »
The problem with the post 2008 investigations, especially Grange,  is that we know that the investigators didn’t start at the beginning and clear the ground from beneath them. They concluded that the parent’s innocence or guilt had been dealt with by the Portuguese investigation, even though that had ended without, as the SC judged, them being cleared.

Almost ten years on and the situation hasn’t changed. Suspects come and go, and we have yet to see whether there is any concrete evidence against Brueckner, but one thing remains...that OG did not investigate the parents and by that they did them a great disservice for if Brueckner, or anyone else,  is not charged there will be that question mark hanging over the parent’s head forever. Supporters know this and that’s why they are so desperate for Brueckner to be the perpetrator.

I disagree...We know that Grange looked at all the  evidence against the parents and decided they were not involved.

I don't see any question mark hanging over the parents and don't think you have any idea how I and other supporters think.

Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5127 on: July 11, 2020, 11:53:01 AM »
The problem with the post 2008 investigations, especially Grange,  is that we know that the investigators didn’t start at the beginning and clear the ground from beneath them. They concluded that the parent’s innocence or guilt had been dealt with by the Portuguese investigation, even though that had ended without, as the SC judged, them being cleared.

Almost ten years on and the situation hasn’t changed. Suspects come and go, and we have yet to see whether there is any concrete evidence against Brueckner, but one thing remains...that OG did not investigate the parents and by that they did them a great disservice for if Brueckner, or anyone else,  is not charged there will be that question mark hanging over the parent’s head forever. Supporters know this and that’s why they are so desperate for Brueckner to be the perpetrator.

I disagree about stating as an assertion that Op Grange didn't clear the ground under their feet, Faith. That ground could have been quietly cleared without blaring it to the media.

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5128 on: July 11, 2020, 11:54:37 AM »
I disagree...We know that Grange looked at all the  evidence against the parents and decided they were not involved.

I don't see any question mark hanging over the parents and don't think you have any idea how I and other supporters think.

That’s simply not true. Hogan Howe, I think, said that the parent’s guilt had been dealt with by the PJ. There is no evidence that OG even touched this.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5129 on: July 11, 2020, 11:59:56 AM »
I disagree about stating as an assertion that Op Grange didn't clear the ground under their feet, Faith. That ground could have been quietly cleared without blaring it to the media.

According to Hogan Howe OG relied on the PJ’s previous investigation re: the parents. Surely if OG had investigated the parents and ruled them out there would be nothing to lose to sat so ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?