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Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12105 on: February 01, 2021, 04:51:38 PM »
He has said he has strong evidence maddie si dead and CB murdered her...he isnt saying he has proof. If he doesnt have that evidence CB could sue him and potentially see him jailed. CB must be very confidnt

So if what you say is true and there is no legal protection for public officials that are appealing for information concerning a serious crime, that makes what HCW said to be extremely foolish, naïve and reckless. He has put himself in an extremely vulnerable position. Is this the man you are pinning your hopes on?
Why would anyone take such a risky approach, we are talking about personal liberty. Can you imagine HCW doing a 2 year stretch, I am not sure he is prison material. Then after release surely not straight back to his old job but instead down to the job centre every 2 weeks. His risk assessment here has gone very wrong.

Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12106 on: February 01, 2021, 04:52:58 PM »
He has said he has strong evidence maddie si dead and CB murdered her...he isnt saying he has proof. If he doesnt have that evidence CB could sue him and potentially see him jailed. CB must be very confidnt
I thought we established last week that the polizei were exempt when in the throes of an active investigation?
Did you miss the Telex?
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12107 on: February 01, 2021, 04:54:36 PM »
I thought we established last week that the polizei were exempt when in the throes of an active investigation?
Did you miss the Telex?


false alarm...they have limited privelege. I dont see it in any way covers...the evidence shows our susspect murdered MM

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12108 on: February 01, 2021, 04:57:48 PM »

false alarm...they have limited privelege. I dont see it in any way covers...the evidence shows our susspect murdered MM

No thank you for my cite?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12109 on: February 01, 2021, 05:00:47 PM »

false alarm...they have limited privelege. I dont see it in any way covers...the evidence shows our susspect murdered MM

Please provide a cite for public prosecutors in Germany have limited privilege.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12110 on: February 01, 2021, 05:18:50 PM »
Please provide a cite for public prosecutors in Germany have limited privilege.

Do you think they can say anything they like



Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12111 on: February 01, 2021, 05:25:19 PM »
Do you think they can say anything they like
Why not, HCW does. He's riffin like Eminem, droppin names and takin numbers:
I don't smile, I don't frown, get too up or get too down by the news
CB was here, so were you, you came and went, I stuck around da Luz
Still here now, stop me how? Your opinion's like a broken calculator
That **** doesn't count, CB's in the frame, nor fortune or fame
Concrete evidence, not proof but enough
Gonna let him stew in stir, interrogate when I'm buff
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12112 on: February 01, 2021, 05:27:47 PM »
Do you think they can say anything they like

If you provide the cite I can then read it and then get back to you with an answer.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12113 on: February 01, 2021, 05:29:46 PM »
Please provide a cite for public prosecutors in Germany have limited privilege.

I would think it will be the same as in the UK and we've been through it before



the defence of absolute privilege protects statements which can fairly be said to be part of the process of investigating a crime or possible crime,

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12114 on: February 01, 2021, 05:33:38 PM »
I would think it will be the same as in the UK and we've been through it before



the defence of absolute privilege protects statements which can fairly be said to be part of the process of investigating a crime or possible crime,

So what was all this guff

This is interesting... im sure wolters understands German law....

Whoever asserts or disseminates a fact about another person which is suitable for degrading that person or negatively affecting public opinion about that person, unless this fact can be proved to be true, incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or a fine and, if the offence was committed publicly or by disseminating material (section 11 (3)), a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or a fine.


so Wolters is risking prison if he doesnt have the evidence...not 50 p a week as the General suggested


How does that relate to the legal defence of absolute privilege?

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12115 on: February 01, 2021, 05:38:35 PM »
So what was all this guff

This is interesting... im sure wolters understands German law....

Whoever asserts or disseminates a fact about another person which is suitable for degrading that person or negatively affecting public opinion about that person, unless this fact can be proved to be true, incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or a fine and, if the offence was committed publicly or by disseminating material (section 11 (3)), a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or a fine.


so Wolters is risking prison if he doesnt have the evidence...not 50 p a week as the General suggested


How does that relate to the legal defence of absolute privilege?

I think he’s tangled himself up a bit...and not for the first time.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12116 on: February 01, 2021, 05:38:49 PM »
So what was all this guff

This is interesting... im sure wolters understands German law....

Whoever asserts or disseminates a fact about another person which is suitable for degrading that person or negatively affecting public opinion about that person, unless this fact can be proved to be true, incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or a fine and, if the offence was committed publicly or by disseminating material (section 11 (3)), a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or a fine.


so Wolters is risking prison if he doesnt have the evidence...not 50 p a week as the General suggested


How does that relate to the legal defence of absolute privilege?
Cite that Wolters statements are covered by absolute privelige rather than qualified privelige

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12117 on: February 01, 2021, 05:44:21 PM »
Cite that Wolters statements are covered by absolute privelige rather than qualified privelige

Please provide me the cite I requested earlier and I will respond to your request. First in first out.
If you don't have the cite please add "in my opinion". You can't pass opinion as fact.

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12118 on: February 01, 2021, 05:45:13 PM »
I would think it will be the same as in the UK and we've been through it before



the defence of absolute privilege protects statements which can fairly be said to be part of the process of investigating a crime or possible crime,

And how do these 2 statements from you within the last hour make sense, one says they have limited privilege the other says absolute privilege covers them. Which is it limited or absolute?

“false alarm...they have limited privelege. I dont see it in any way covers...the evidence shows our susspect murdered MM”

“I would think it will be the same as in the UK and we've been through it before
the defence of absolute privilege protects statements which can fairly be said to be part of the process of investigating a crime or possible crime,”

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12119 on: February 01, 2021, 05:57:50 PM »
And how do these 2 statements from you within the last hour make sense, one says they have limited privilege the other says absolute privilege covers them. Which is it limited or absolute?

“false alarm...they have limited privelege. I dont see it in any way covers...the evidence shows our susspect murdered MM”

“I would think it will be the same as in the UK and we've been through it before
the defence of absolute privilege protects statements which can fairly be said to be part of the process of investigating a crime or possible crime,”

Both those statements are compatible with each other. In some circumstances the police have absolute privelige... In others qualified