New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Both those statements are compatible with each other. In some circumstances the police have absolute privelige... In others qualified

Interesting, every day is a school day.
What circumstances cover absolute and which qualified?

[faithlilly]

Both those statements are compatible with each other. In some circumstances the police have absolute privelige... In others qualified

So what are those circumstances...with cite please?

[Mr Gray]

l “Absolute privilege” – public policy protects defamatory allegations
made in certain situations, for example, statements made in judicial
proceedings; fair and accurate contemporaneous reports of such
proceedings; statements made, and documents created, in the
course of a police criminal investigation

This is from a pdf which I cannot link to on my phone.. Its clear that for police reports to be protected by absolute privilege they must be fair and accurate...
Is Wolters statement that CB murdered Maddie fair and accurate... If it isn't Wolters could be sued... Will provide link later...


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media/137337/police-law-defamation.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj1ioOWqsnuAhX3QhUIHRFYDsMQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2jkLeOP4kS63ZPGzZ6VQJ5

[Icanhandlethetruth]

l “Absolute privilege” – public policy protects defamatory allegations
made in certain situations, for example, statements made in judicial
proceedings; fair and accurate contemporaneous reports of such
proceedings; statements made, and documents created, in the
course of a police criminal investigation

This is from a pdf which I cannot link to on my phone.. Its clear that for police reports to be protected by absolute privilege they must be fair and accurate...
Is Wolters statement that CB murdered Maddie fair and accurate... If it isn't Wolters could be sued... Will provide link later...


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media/137337/police-law-defamation.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj1ioOWqsnuAhX3QhUIHRFYDsMQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2jkLeOP4kS63ZPGzZ6VQJ5

I know what absolute privilege is, I was the one who introduced it to the forum last week remember. But educate me on the circumstances you mention concerning absolute and qualified and also that cite if you can.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

l “Absolute privilege” – public policy protects defamatory allegations
made in certain situations, for example, statements made in judicial
proceedings; fair and accurate contemporaneous reports of such
proceedings; statements made, and documents created, in the
course of a police criminal investigation

This is from a pdf which I cannot link to on my phone.. Its clear that for police reports to be protected by absolute privilege they must be fair and accurate...
Is Wolters statement that CB murdered Maddie fair and accurate... If it isn't Wolters could be sued... Will provide link later...


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media/137337/police-law-defamation.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj1ioOWqsnuAhX3QhUIHRFYDsMQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2jkLeOP4kS63ZPGzZ6VQJ5

I hate to point it out as I don’t like to kick a man when he is down but you even misinterpret the passage you quoted above.

You say “Its clear that for police reports to be protected by absolute privilege they must be fair and accurate…” but it doesn’t say police reports must be fair and accurate, just contemporaneous reports recorded during court cases.
“statements made in judicial proceedings”  - means court cases heard before a judge
“fair and accurate contemporaneous reports of such proceedings” - such proceedings refer to the court cases and contemporaneous reports are reports that were taken down during the court case.
Then the bit after the semi colon; “and documents created, in the course of a police criminal investigation” . Read the passage again and its meaning is not as you purport.

Anyway as you say on the other thread I think it would be good for you to take a rest from posting for a while and come back fresh. All the best!

[Anthro]

I realise this has been discussed before. Jos Brech and the unidentified e-fit (probably by Jeni Weinberger) have reference. During the timeframe that Brückner was identified and investigated, Brech was arrested in Spain for the murder of Nicky Verstappen. During his trial he said he has a confession/statement locked away in a safe, that will only be released when the time is right. Is this perhaps significant? The attached picture is Brech during sentencing. Also, Martin Ney who is currently being re-investigated in Madeleine’s disappearance, was once implicated in Nicky’s disappearance and murder. Where was Brech during April/May 2007?

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[barrier]

I realise this has been discussed before. Jos Brech and the unidentified e-fit (probably by Jeni Weinberger) have reference. During the timeframe that Brückner was identified and investigated, Brech was arrested in Spain for the murder of Nicky Verstappen. During his trial he said he has a confession/statement locked away in a safe, that will only be released when the time is right. Is this perhaps significant? The attached picture is Brech during sentencing. Also, Martin Ney who is currently being re-investigated in Madeleine’s disappearance, was once implicated in Nicky’s disappearance and murder. Where was Brech during April/May 2007?

Re Martin Ney.Lead investigators.

The British press has also linked him to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who was snatched from her parents' rented apartment during a holiday in Portugal in 2007.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20210126/german-serial-killer-charged-with-murder-of-10-year-old-boy-in-france

TV station RTL claimed Scotland Yard, after reviewing evidence, had suggested he be re-interviewed over Madeleine.


Past tense, had..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13830511/madeleine-mccann-martin-ney-questioned-murderer/

[barrier]

Is a sticking point to advancing against even questioning CB the inconclusive DNA results from the Scenic, as it been confirmed that there is no way on earth her DNA can be found in the samples, if not then there is that reasonable doubt against CB.

[jassi]

Re Martin Ney.Lead investigators.

The British press has also linked him to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who was snatched from her parents' rented apartment during a holiday in Portugal in 2007.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20210126/german-serial-killer-charged-with-murder-of-10-year-old-boy-in-france

TV station RTL claimed Scotland Yard, after reviewing evidence, had suggested he be re-interviewed over Madeleine.




Past tense, had..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13830511/madeleine-mccann-martin-ney-questioned-murderer/

I hadn't seen that Ney had been charged by the French, I thought they were still at the questioning stage.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Is a sticking point to advancing against even questioning CB the inconclusive DNA results from the Scenic, as it been confirmed that there is no way on earth her DNA can be found in the samples, if not then there is that reasonable doubt against CB.

?  What have the Scenic samples got to do with the case against CB?

[Eleanor]

?  What have the Scenic samples got to do with the case against CB?

I didn't understand that either.

[Robittybob1]

I didn't understand that either.

Was it the inconclusive DNA results from the hire car would add to the level of reasonable doubt that CB is guilty.

[Eleanor]

Was it the inconclusive DNA results from the hire car would add to the level of reasonable doubt that CB is guilty.

I don't know.  What do you think?

[Robittybob1]

I don't know.  What do you think?

I have never been on a jury having to decide what is reasonable doubt.  I'm sure a defense lawyer would raise the issue if there was little else against him.
What have we got at the moment?
His phone being used an hour or more prior to a person reported missing.
Changing the car ownership the day after.
Child sex abuse images in a position where they are effectively destroyed.

[jassi]

I have never been on a jury having to decide what is reasonable doubt.  I'm sure a defense lawyer would raise the issue if there was little else against him.
What have we got at the moment?
His phone being used an hour or more prior to a person reported missing.
Changing the car ownership the day after.
Child sex abuse images in a position where they are effectively destroyed.

He also has a variety of convictions that point to him being a thoroughly  bad lot, but do not support his involvement in this case.
IMO