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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12675 on: April 10, 2021, 08:51:53 AM »
So can we take it that the lack of an arrest after the passing of a certain amount of time indicates that the suspect was not involved? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12676 on: April 10, 2021, 10:48:49 AM »
There really is little point in pronouncing definitively on the man's guilt or innocence without full access to all the evidence, it just makes one look foolish.  CB very well could have committed the crime, but then again maybe he didn't.  There's reason to believe the Germans have something on him but then again if it was anything really damning he would have surely been charged.   Why can't people simply wait and see what transpires rather than asserting that they know he did or didn't do it?

The appeal, now almost a year old, has been removed from the MET's website.  As far as we know CB has not even been interviewed despite now being a stones throw from HCW's office.  The MET only ever identified CB as a suspect, retaining an open mind about his involvement:

Detective Chief Inspector Mark Cranwell, who leads Operation Grange, said:

“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12677 on: April 10, 2021, 11:18:04 AM »
The appeal, now almost a year old, has been removed from the MET's website.  As far as we know CB has not even been interviewed despite now being a stones throw from HCW's office.  The MET only ever identified CB as a suspect, retaining an open mind about his involvement:

Detective Chief Inspector Mark Cranwell, who leads Operation Grange, said:

“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.
Which is good to know isn't it?  Some people believe the Met don't have an open mind at all.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12678 on: April 10, 2021, 12:37:13 PM »
There really is little point in pronouncing definitively on the man's guilt or innocence without full access to all the evidence, it just makes one look foolish.  CB very well could have committed the crime, but then again maybe he didn't.  There's reason to believe the Germans have something on him but then again if it was anything really damning he would have surely been charged.   Why can't people simply wait and see what transpires rather than asserting that they know he did or didn't do it?

Words of wisdom.   The most thoughtful words that I have read in a long time.   Well done VS and Anthro for having the open mind and true sense of Justice behind them.   

And bravery to write them.  I was slated when I wrote similar, but hopefully people will wake up and listen to your sound thinking.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12679 on: April 10, 2021, 12:55:56 PM »
Words of wisdom.   The most thoughtful words that I have read in a long time.   Well done VS and Anthro for having the open mind and true sense of Justice behind them.   

And bravery to write th em.  I was slated when I wrote similar, but hopefully people will wake up and listen to your sound thinking.
I'm not sure who you think slated you...
For me there are two points the Germans have addressed.
AFAIAC they have near enough proof MMwas murdered but not enough evidence to prove who did it

Wolters has given 4 clues that the evidence is photographic.. Perhaps others just can't see it

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12680 on: April 10, 2021, 01:59:21 PM »
I'm not sure who you think slated you...
For me there are two points the Germans have addressed.
AFAIAC they have near enough proof MMwas murdered but not enough evidence to prove who did it

Wolters has given 4 clues that the evidence is photographic.. Perhaps others just can't see it

Sadie has often been slated and her comments deleted just for stating an opinion.  There is no doubt about that.

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12681 on: April 10, 2021, 02:04:49 PM »
There really is little point in pronouncing definitively on the man's guilt or innocence without full access to all the evidence, it just makes one look foolish.  CB very well could have committed the crime, but then again maybe he didn't.  There's reason to believe the Germans have something on him but then again if it was anything really damning he would have surely been charged.   Why can't people simply wait and see what transpires rather than asserting that they know he did or didn't do it?

Good post, however, the main issue for me is his refusal to brief Madeleine's parents. I think that in itself is so very cruel.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12682 on: April 10, 2021, 02:12:48 PM »
I'm not sure who you think slated you...
For me there are two points the Germans have addressed.
AFAIAC they have near enough proof MMwas murdered but not enough evidence to prove who did it

Wolters has given 4 clues that the evidence is photographic.. Perhaps others just can't see it


AFAIAC they have near enough proof MMwas murdered but not enough evidence to prove who did it

So in that case it seems it could be anyone.

Ihave always thought that wolt used Maddie as a high profile case with maximum publicity - but more interested in  other crimes. an there you go.



According to BILD information, German investigators want to travel to Portugal in the spring to exchange ideas with colleagues. However, it should primarily be about investigations into other crimes in which B. could be involved and which came into focus during the Maddie investigation.

It would be the second conference of its kind. A first meeting last spring had not brought the hoped-for breakthrough. At that time, investigators from Germany (Federal Criminal Police Office), England (Scotland Yard) and Portugal (Policia Judiciaria) took part.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12683 on: April 10, 2021, 02:20:21 PM »

AFAIAC they have near enough proof MMwas murdered but not enough evidence to prove who did it

So in that case it seems it could be anyone.

Ihave always thought that wolt used Maddie as a high profile case with maximum publicity - but more interested in  other crimes. an there you go.



According to BILD information, German investigators want to travel to Portugal in the spring to exchange ideas with colleagues. However, it should primarily be about investigations into other crimes in which B. could be involved and which came into focus during the Maddie investigation.

It would be the second conference of its kind. A first meeting last spring had not brought the hoped-for breakthrough. At that time, investigators from Germany (Federal Criminal Police Office), England (Scotland Yard) and Portugal (Policia Judiciaria) took part.

Wh

I dont want to keep repeating it ...but murdered by a paedophile. Evidence which obviously rules out the parents.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12684 on: April 10, 2021, 02:23:50 PM »
Good post, however, the main issue for me is his refusal to brief Madeleine's parents. I think that in itself is so very cruel.

they may well have told the McCanns more than we know. Holding back information has nothing to do with cruelty but to bringing a successful prosecution....solving the case...which is surely what we all like to see.

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12685 on: April 10, 2021, 02:30:34 PM »
I dont want to keep repeating it ...but murdered by a paedophile. Evidence which obviously rules out the parents.

You didn't say paedophile did you - same as I didn't mention the so called parents.

But there again, you don't know what he has and hasn't got. Only what you assume he has.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12686 on: April 10, 2021, 02:37:22 PM »
You didn't say paedophile did you - same as I didn't mention the so called parents.

But there again, you don't know what he has and hasn't got. Only what you assume he has.

Im not assuming anything. Im drawing  a conclusion from the evidence we have...Wolters statements. Ive repeated murdered by  a paedophile several times. Wolters has given some indications taht this is the evidence he has. Again as Ive said before...similar to Rui pedro...photographic evidence...abducted in portugal and never found
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Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12687 on: April 10, 2021, 02:58:31 PM »
Evidence can be true or false. Only when tested  in court will we find out which it is.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12688 on: April 10, 2021, 03:09:31 PM »
Evidence can be true or false. Only when tested  in court will we find out which it is.

Don't agree with that at all. Depends what the evidence is

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12689 on: April 10, 2021, 03:09:53 PM »
Evidence can be true or false. Only when tested  in court will we find out which it is.

But even that won't do for some.