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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13035 on: May 17, 2021, 10:19:35 PM »
I didn't. I've no idea where either he or his van were. I don't even know why we're talking about vans being searched. Do you think Amaral was referring to the PJ knocking on van doors?
He didn’t specify the type of doors upon which he alleges his officers knocked in their search for Madeleine McCann but he DID say they knocked on one belonging to CB but there was no answer so that was that. Is he lying do you think?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13036 on: May 18, 2021, 08:05:21 AM »
I take all refusals to answer my questions  as acquiescence.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13037 on: May 18, 2021, 09:21:42 AM »
Indeed. Your predictable response confirms your inability/unwillingness to do your own research. My opinion. By the way, my initial question was not primarily directed at you.

I don't do so called research.
Strange as it may seem, I'm content to let the real detectives get on with the job, while I observe from the sidelines.

As an open forum, members can contribute as and when it suits - which is what I do.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13038 on: May 18, 2021, 09:26:32 AM »
I take all refusals to answer my questions  as acquiescence.

Repeating what he was told?

'I have been told by colleagues, who are retired like me, that they had come knocking on the door. That person was not at home.' Amaral said.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8450247/Portuguese-police-tried-quiz-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-vanished.html
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13039 on: May 18, 2021, 09:36:00 AM »
Repeating what he was told?

'I have been told by colleagues, who are retired like me, that they had come knocking on the door. That person was not at home.' Amaral said.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8450247/Portuguese-police-tried-quiz-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-vanished.html
Oh right - so he was nothing to do with the investigation in the early days and wouldn't have known that local paedos, crooks and criminals like CB were being investigated by his colleagues until many years later, right you are then. 
It sounds to me like he's making it up as he goes along frankly. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13040 on: May 18, 2021, 09:43:03 AM »
So - either Amaral was not privy to the investigations into local criminal element on his doorstep as part of the wider investigation into Madeleine's disappearance (why not?) and was told about it later by his ex colleagues who were either telling the truth (that they knocked on CB's door and gave up when no one answered) or were lying to Amaral for reasons best known to themselves
OR
Amaral DID know about investigations into the local paedos and crooks, knew that CB was a person of interest and that his door was knocked on at the time, and is lying in his interview about only being told about it by his ex-colleagues  years after the event. 

Crikey it's complicated, the web of deceit and deflection being woven about it. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13041 on: May 18, 2021, 09:53:53 AM »
So - either Amaral was not privy to the investigations into local criminal element on his doorstep as part of the wider investigation into Madeleine's disappearance (why not?) and was told about it later by his ex colleagues who were either telling the truth (that they knocked on CB's door and gave up when no one answered) or were lying to Amaral for reasons best known to themselves
OR
Amaral DID know about investigations into the local paedos and crooks, knew that CB was a person of interest and that his door was knocked on at the time, and is lying in his interview about only being told about it by his ex-colleagues  years after the event. 

Crikey it's complicated, the web of deceit and deflection being woven about it.

I don't know when, where or why they allegedly knocked and to be honest I don't really care. All I do know is that no-one has ever said exactly where he was living on 3rd May 2007 imo.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13042 on: May 18, 2021, 10:02:30 AM »
I don't know when, where or why they allegedly knocked and to be honest I don't really care. All I do know is that no-one has ever said exactly where he was living on 3rd May 2007 imo.

The phone data
I don't know when, where or why they allegedly knocked and to be honest I don't really care. All I do know is that no-one has ever said exactly where he was living on 3rd May 2007 imo.

Maybe the  phone data Wolters has could go someway to answer that question.  As I said some time ago wolters may well be establishing where he was around that time

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13043 on: May 18, 2021, 10:07:23 AM »
I don't know when, where or why they allegedly knocked and to be honest I don't really care. All I do know is that no-one has ever said exactly where he was living on 3rd May 2007 imo.
You don't really care about the lies and deceit in the PJ?  We have it from the horse's arse that the PJ knew sbout CB's criminal activities, knew where he lived,  and knocked on his door but you don't accept this.   Why not? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13044 on: May 18, 2021, 10:59:52 AM »
You don't really care about the lies and deceit in the PJ?  We have it from the horse's arse that the PJ knew sbout CB's criminal activities, knew where he lived,  and knocked on his door but you don't accept this.   Why not?

I have no idea whether the PJ told lies and sought to deceive people. I'm surprised that you seem to be giving so much credence to the words of a man you have shown no sign of believing previously. Also, you seem to have confused which end of a horse you should be referring to imo.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13045 on: May 18, 2021, 11:12:46 AM »
I have no idea whether the PJ told lies and sought to deceive people. I'm surprised that you seem to be giving so much credence to the words of a man you have shown no sign of believing previously. Also, you seem to have confused which end of a horse you should be referring to imo.
I don't think I am at all confused actually, nor am I giving any credence to Amaral's oral droppings, as I outlined above - someone is lying, but who?  The guy with the track record in spouting crap on TV (to wit - CB had dreadlocks and drove a van covered in cartoon graffiti at the time Madeleine disappeared) or the organisation he once represented?  You don't really seem to care either way which is strange IMO, especially as you seem to be of the opinion that this man solved the case back in 2007 - why would he feel the need to tell so many lies about CB if that is the case?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13046 on: May 18, 2021, 11:18:29 AM »
Especially his movements after the 3rd, I think Davel. For instance, positioning his phone in the areas of Foral and Sao Bartolomeu Messinas. Perhaps triangulation reveals his incoming/outgoing calls to e.g Seyferth, Busching, Tatschl , collated with their recent statements re. Brückner.

As far as I know no mobile phone records from the areas of Foral and Sao Bartolomeu Messinas were requested by the police at the time. Records were requested only for those masts covering Praia da Luz.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MOBILE_PHONE_ANALYSIS.htm
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Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13047 on: May 18, 2021, 11:27:26 AM »
I don't think I am at all confused actually, nor am I giving any credence to Amaral's oral droppings, as I outlined above - someone is lying, but who?  The guy with the track record in spouting crap on TV (to wit - CB had dreadlocks and drove a van covered in cartoon graffiti at the time Madeleine disappeared) or the organisation he once represented?  You don't really seem to care either way which is strange IMO, especially as you seem to be of the opinion that this man solved the case back in 2007 - why would he feel the need to tell so many lies about CB if that is the case?

Bolded text; way off the mark.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13048 on: May 18, 2021, 12:03:31 PM »
Bolded text; way off the mark.
Again - I don't think so.  You liked a post by another poster (who incidentally stated it as fact) that Amaral solved the case in 2007.  Perhaps you can explain why you liked this post which breached forum rules, particularly if you believe this claim is "way off the mark".  Bet you can't but nicely deflected from the rest of my post.

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Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13049 on: May 18, 2021, 12:28:18 PM »
Again - I don't think so.  You liked a post by another poster (who incidentally stated it as fact) that Amaral solved the case in 2007.  Perhaps you can explain why you liked this post which breached forum rules, particularly if you believe this claim is "way off the mark".  Bet you can't but nicely deflected from the rest of my post.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11870.msg636033#msg636033

So in your opinion people only like posts if they agree with their content? I like posts for a variety reasons.
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