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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14685 on: December 19, 2021, 07:01:38 PM »
Is this true or just tabloid supposition? 
Have police said they are bringing this charge ?

barrier provided the link saying the "legend is writ" perhaps she will be able to fill you in.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14686 on: December 19, 2021, 07:42:20 PM »
I am way past caring now, beyond the obvious.  Although I have never thought for even second that the sceptic rubbish was going to help in any way.

None of you have any conception of failure, as if it never happened.  Not one of you ever put your children at risk even briefly, when I was putting my children at risk all of the time and every time I allowed them to go off on their own and do their own thing.

I calculated the risks as I did on the occasions that I left them alone sleeping.  But my children were all brave little souls for which I am truly thankful.

Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14687 on: December 19, 2021, 07:47:20 PM »
You really do not have a clue what evidence the BKA hold on Brueckner.

Disgracefully it took them to bring the vicious torturer and rapist of the American woman to trial - the Policia Judiciaria just did not bother.

Disgracefully it seems the BKA are left to bring charges against Brueckner for the vicious rape and torture of an Irish woman - the Policia Judiciaria just did not bother.

One wonders what other outrages and crimes against women the Policia Judiciaria just did not bother with either.

We know what some are.
There must have been many more.

These were many and dreadful.

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14688 on: December 20, 2021, 04:36:11 AM »
The net is closing according to a German sauce, so the legend is writ in an untrustworthy rag...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10327127/Rape-charge-German-suspected-kidnapping-Madeleine-McCann.html
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14689 on: December 20, 2021, 05:57:16 AM »
The net is closing according to a German sauce, so the legend is writ in an untrustworthy rag...


Another who doesn't understand, the legend is that CB did for Madeleine , come what may.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14690 on: December 20, 2021, 08:19:08 AM »
Another who doesn't understand, the legend is that CB did for Madeleine , come what may.
I think Myster was taking the piss, perhaps it’s you who doesn’t understand?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14691 on: December 20, 2021, 11:59:55 AM »
The net is closing according to a German sauce, so the legend is writ in an untrustworthy rag...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10327127/Rape-charge-German-suspected-kidnapping-Madeleine-McCann.html

There is a one hundred and ten page file in existence on the ordeal suffered by Ms Behan.

In 2007 a swab taken after a medical examination was destroyed - according to the file because it had been kept in “adverse preservation conditions”.
The rest of the items were destroyed in 2009. The destruction of forensic evidence in cases where no suspect has been identified is reportedly standard practice in Portugal.

In the file the police concluded the attack on Behan had been an isolated case, the modus operandi of which was not found in any other cases. The police also said in the file that attempts to find the attacker were hampered by the fact the Euro 2004 football tournament was taking place at the time, leading to “thousands of people from several nationalities” being present in Praia da Rocha.

Behan said she was treated insensitively by the Portuguese police, who she believes failed to properly investigate the rape. She said local people tried to dissuade her from talking about her case.

Evidence on the rape and robbery of the American woman the following year in the nearby resort of Praia da Luz was supposed to have been destroyed in 2010, but court officials had overlooked the fact, according to a file held on the 2005 rape, which the Guardian has also seen.

When German authorities requested the file and evidence – eight items, including a piece of rope used to tie the victim – after receiving information from the Met, it was sent to them by the Portuguese authorities in March 2018. The evidence led to Brückner’s conviction for the 2005 rape in December last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/22/portugal-police-could-reopen-case-irish-woman-hazel-behan-2004-madeleine-mccann

I think that at the time of Madeleine's disappearance the Portuguese legal system demonstrates an ineptitude in how to deal with very serious crimes against women.
Don't forget that bubbling away in the background at this time were the home invasions featuring sexual assaults on children as well as the disappearance of two little girls from neighbouring villages.

There was a systematic type of crime wave in progress here.  Of which either the Portuguese authorities were in blissful ignorance or were assiduously covering up.  But either way - it tends to illustrate why Madeleine's case was handled in the way it was.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14692 on: December 20, 2021, 01:17:15 PM »
"The destruction of forensic evidence in cases where no suspect has been identified is reportedly standard practice in Portugal."
u
It's also standard practice in the UK, as this letter from the FSS makes clear;

Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
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Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14693 on: December 20, 2021, 01:27:37 PM »
There is a one hundred and ten page file in existence on the ordeal suffered by Ms Behan.

In 2007 a swab taken after a medical examination was destroyed - according to the file because it had been kept in “adverse preservation conditions”.
The rest of the items were destroyed in 2009. The destruction of forensic evidence in cases where no suspect has been identified is reportedly standard practice in Portugal.

In the file the police concluded the attack on Behan had been an isolated case, the modus operandi of which was not found in any other cases. The police also said in the file that attempts to find the attacker were hampered by the fact the Euro 2004 football tournament was taking place at the time, leading to “thousands of people from several nationalities” being present in Praia da Rocha.

Behan said she was treated insensitively by the Portuguese police, who she believes failed to properly investigate the rape. She said local people tried to dissuade her from talking about her case.

Evidence on the rape and robbery of the American woman the following year in the nearby resort of Praia da Luz was supposed to have been destroyed in 2010, but court officials had overlooked the fact, according to a file held on the 2005 rape, which the Guardian has also seen.

When German authorities requested the file and evidence – eight items, including a piece of rope used to tie the victim – after receiving information from the Met, it was sent to them by the Portuguese authorities in March 2018. The evidence led to Brückner’s conviction for the 2005 rape in December last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/22/portugal-police-could-reopen-case-irish-woman-hazel-behan-2004-madeleine-mccann

I think that at the time of Madeleine's disappearance the Portuguese legal system demonstrates an ineptitude in how to deal with very serious crimes against women.
Don't forget that bubbling away in the background at this time were the home invasions featuring sexual assaults on children as well as the disappearance of two little girls from neighbouring villages.

There was a systematic type of crime wave in progress here.  Of which either the Portuguese authorities were in blissful ignorance or were assiduously covering up.  But either way - it tends to illustrate why Madeleine's case was handled in the way it was.
Worth listening again to the half-hour Hazel Behan radio interview with Ryan Tubridy.  If Brueckner was the rapist he was keen not to leave any evidence, such as taking his shoes off after climbing onto the balcony outside her apartment and disposing of used condoms in the toilet...

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/tubridy-floored-by-bravery-of-woman-sharing-her-harrowing-rape-ordeal-live-on-air-30921788.html
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14694 on: December 20, 2021, 01:29:41 PM »
"The destruction of forensic evidence in cases where no suspect has been identified is reportedly standard practice in Portugal."
u
It's also standard practice in the UK, as this letter from the FSS makes clear;


i think you will find they may destroy the sample once a dna analysis has been carried out...is this what happens in Portugal...there is  a massive difference

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14695 on: December 20, 2021, 01:29:56 PM »
I'm sure they'll magic some hair from somewhere.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14696 on: December 20, 2021, 01:37:42 PM »
Worth listening again to the half-hour Hazel Behan radio interview with Ryan Tubridy. If Brueckner was the rapist he was keen not to leave any evidence, such as taking his shoes off after climbing onto the balcony outside her apartment and disposing of used condoms in the toilet...

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/tubridy-floored-by-bravery-of-woman-sharing-her-harrowing-rape-ordeal-live-on-air-30921788.html

Surely that would apply whoever the rapist was .
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14697 on: December 20, 2021, 01:53:24 PM »
Madeleine McCann kidnap suspect faces separate rape charge
new
Debbie White
Monday December 20 2021, 11.00am, The Times
Madeleine McCann
Christian Brückner is the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann from a flat in the Algarve 14 years ago

The prime suspect in the abduction of Madeleine McCann may be charged with the 2004 rape of an Irish tour representative, according to officials in Germany.

Christian Brückner, 45, is suspected of attacking Hazel Behan, then 20, in her apartment in Praia da Rocha in the Algarve, a 30-minute drive from where Madeleine was abducted. The German news website Der Spiegel said that prosecutors were expected to “conclude the investigation” early next year.

A source claimed that the Braunschweig prosecutor’s office would charge Brückner with raping Behan in Portugal three years before Madeleine’s disappearance in 2007. Brückner denies involvement in her disappearance.

Behan, who has waived her right to anonymity, contacted British police after reading about an apparently similar sex attack by Brückner. His history emerged during an appeal for information by German detectives investigating Madeleine’s disappearance.

Brückner was jailed for seven years in Hanover for the 2005 rape of an American woman, aged 72, after DNA samples taken from a hair at the scene in Praia da Luz helped to convict him.



Prosecutors in Germany have not disclosed what evidence they have to connect the attacks. Brückner’s lawyer has declined to comment, according to reports.

In May, Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor leading the inquiry, said: “The case against the suspect Christian B for the [alleged] rape of Hazel Behan is in a good way . . . I am very hopeful for a charge on this case.

“We are building a picture of Christian B and the methods he uses to commit his crimes. There are parallels with the case of the American tourist who was raped, the attack on Hazel Behan, and the abduction and murder of Madeleine McCann. In each case the person has come into the person’s apartment or property by breaking and entering, often not through the door.”

Madeleine McCann’s parents, Kate and Gerry, appeal for information in 2012, showing how she might have aged

Behan was two weeks from her 21st birthday when she was subjected to a prolonged sexual assault in her apartment. “I thought that was it, my life was over,” she said.



The German legal system means that after any charge Wolters will have to convince a judge that a full trial should be held. It would take place before five judges, probably in the district court in Braunschweig, a city in Lower Saxony known as Brunswick in English, where Brückner spent much of his life in Germany.

He fled to Portugal as an 18-year-old to escape a two-year youth custody sentence for child sex offences, but returned later.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14698 on: December 20, 2021, 01:55:45 PM »
I'm sure they'll magic some hair from somewhere.

And get a dog handler to magic some alerts

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14699 on: December 20, 2021, 02:21:32 PM »
i think you will find they may destroy the sample once a dna analysis has been carried out...is this what happens in Portugal...there is  a massive difference

According to the press DNA seems to have been obtained - interestingly enough the destruction of the samples wasn't carried out until 2007.


The documents make it clear DNA was obtained but no match. They do not specify the exact nature of the material recovered.
Confirming the destruction of the DNA evidence, they say: 'On March 15 2007 when the judge decides to archive the investigation, the Public Ministry decide any biological material should be destroyed.'
They add: 'As they are in a bad condition it is improbable that if this re-investigation was reopened the material could be subjected to counterproof analysis.'
The astonishing DNA decision emerged just days after the former head of Portugal's National Forensic Medicine Institute said the evidence collected from the McCanns' holiday apartment could still prove valuable in unlocking the 13-year mystery.
Duarte Nuno Vieira, President President of Portugal's National Forensic Medicine Institute when the youngster vanished, said all the samples taken were kept under lock and key at a lab in the northern city of Coimbra and could be used for re-testing with today's modern technology whenever needed.
He told Portuguese broadcaster CMTV: 'The samples are still being kept in optimum conditions and despite the fact 13 years have gone by, it's still possible today to repeat tests.'
Recent unconfirmed Portuguese reports claimed convicted rapist Brueckner had been ruled out as a suspect in the Hazel Behan case but gave no indication why.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8548021/Investigation-reopened-rape-ordeal-linked-Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-suspect.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....