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Offline faithlilly

Re: Why now?
« Reply #240 on: June 08, 2020, 08:52:01 AM »
I don't write the press reports, Faith & I'm sure you've never been slow in posting any media which is suggestive of the parents' guilt.

As I have said before, I believe Madeleine was the victim of an accident. It would have been quick and she would have known little about it.

« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 11:00:33 AM by John »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #241 on: June 08, 2020, 10:09:35 AM »
That paedophile is not a member is he?

Would it matter if he was?  He is a Convicted Paedophile, albeit so far not proven guilty of abducting Madeleine McCann.

In so far as I am aware, No Supporter here has expressed a hope that Madeleine was killed by this obvious low life.  Quite the opposite in fact. Although the accusation from Sceptics doesn't surprise me at all.

For once we all appear to be singing from the same hymn sheet.  Innocent Until Proven Guilty.

However, it is not part of my remit to Delete Opinions, providing that this is all they are.  So have a care, Folks.  Or I will be Deleting.

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Re: Why now?
« Reply #242 on: June 08, 2020, 10:22:27 AM »
This latest turn of events worries me. This German suspect is undoubtedly a nasty piece of work, apparently he carried a gun at times in Portugal so that he would be seen as a hard man. His actual crimes are appalling for sure but there is NOTHING that we currently know of which connects him to Madeleine's disappearance.

What concerns me is the fact that the Germans have decided to convict him even before any evidence of his involvement has been found. They haven't even done any ground work yet they chose to go public with this suspect. Had this guy not been incarcerated and unable to defend himself I doubt very much if the Germans would have dared do what they have done.

Are the Germans attempting to undermine Operation Grange because it most certainly looks like it?

Is it true that they haven't done any groundwork though?  This suspect has been known to the police since 2017, and I very much doubt we know everything they have discovered about him.

IMO, the police have gone public now because they don't have enough evidence to charge him, and they are hoping that someone will provide it.

Offline Brietta

Re: Why now?
« Reply #243 on: June 08, 2020, 10:33:10 AM »
Is it true that they haven't done any groundwork though?  This suspect has been known to the police since 2017, and I very much doubt we know everything they have discovered about him.

IMO, the police have gone public now because they don't have enough evidence to charge him, and they are hoping that someone will provide it.

I agree.
I don't think the German police who seem to have been landed with the lead in this have divulged any more than they have had to and it seems to have jogged memories.  So with any luck some of the information sent in will make sense and might provide a breakthrough to more than one of the cases the police are looking at with fresh eyes.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why now?
« Reply #244 on: June 08, 2020, 10:35:30 AM »
Would it matter if he was?  He is a Convicted Paedophile, albeit so far not proven guilty of abducting Madeleine McCann.

In so far as I am aware, No Supporter here has expressed a hope that Madeleine was killed by this obvious low life.  Quite the opposite in fact. Although the accusation from Sceptics doesn't surprise me at all.

For once we all appear to be singing from the same hymn sheet.  Innocent Until Proven Guilty.

However, it is not part of my remit to Delete Opinions, providing that this is all they are.  So have a care, Folks.  Or I will be Deleting.

‘ Although the accusation from Sceptics doesn't surprise me at all.’

I really did think you were above this kind of linear thinking Eleanor.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: Why now?
« Reply #245 on: June 08, 2020, 10:40:25 AM »
Is it true that they haven't done any groundwork though?  This suspect has been known to the police since 2017, and I very much doubt we know everything they have discovered about him.

IMO, the police have gone public now because they don't have enough evidence to charge him, and they are hoping that someone will provide it.

I'm assuming that Brueckner is the 'last lead' that Grange have mentioned over the past few years.
They've never given any  further information  until now and I suspect they are only doing it now because they have no other option.
 The media is full of  fanciful stories, some of which might have some truth and perhaps police will be able to tease some useful information from it all
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #246 on: June 08, 2020, 10:41:04 AM »
Is it true that they haven't done any groundwork though?  This suspect has been known to the police since 2017, and I very much doubt we know everything they have discovered about him.

IMO, the police have gone public now because they don't have enough evidence to charge him, and they are hoping that someone will provide it.

In My Opinion this is all on a hiding to nothing.  There are already Jurisdiction Problems, and since there is no chance of Bruckner falling down any Police Station Stairs, they aren't going to get a confession.

I just hope that he stays locked up for a very long time.

And that Madeleine is still alive and unharmed.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #247 on: June 08, 2020, 10:43:30 AM »
‘ Although the accusation from Sceptics doesn't surprise me at all.’

I really did think you were above this kind of linear thinking Eleanor.

It was inevitable from some, Faith.  But thanks for the compliment.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why now?
« Reply #248 on: June 08, 2020, 10:55:09 AM »
In My Opinion this is all on a hiding to nothing.  There are already Jurisdiction Problems, and since there is no chance of Bruckner falling down any Police Station Stairs, they aren't going to get a confession.

I just hope that he stays locked up for a very long time.

And that Madeleine is still alive and unharmed.

I echo your hope Eleanor that he stays locked up for a long time.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2020, 11:32:16 AM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why now?
« Reply #249 on: June 08, 2020, 11:13:10 AM »
I'm assuming that Brueckner is the 'last lead' that Grange have mentioned over the past few years.
They've never given any  further information  until now and I suspect they are only doing it now because they have no other option.
 The media is full of  fanciful stories, some of which might have some truth and perhaps police will be able to tease some useful information from it all

OG were working on their final lead in 2015 from reports. This guy didn't come to their attention until 2017.

April 2016
« Last Edit: June 08, 2020, 11:21:16 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Anthro

Re: Why now?
« Reply #250 on: June 08, 2020, 04:40:40 PM »
It's entirely possible the number was re-assigned more than once after May 2007 but the only reason for suspicion would be if that number had only one or two calls logged in its records on & around May 2007. I'd happily accept DS's explanation if it wasn't for his resemblance to the Smith's efit. IIRC I also looked at him in relation to Steven Cova.

Luis Barros was a waiter at the Tapas, who also worked at the Mill, and said there were 20 diners on half board at the Tapas. He also said that he had to seek authorisation from his manager Steven Cova to make a block reservation for the T9. Steven Cova was the Angolan catering manager who had left at 8pm on the night Madeleine disappeared.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why now?
« Reply #251 on: June 08, 2020, 04:50:01 PM »
If it’s any consolation I didn’t read the post(s) like that.
Of course you didn’t.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Carana

Re: Why now?
« Reply #252 on: June 17, 2020, 09:27:14 AM »
Why now? He was eligible for parole on the drug-peddling charge last week, and there have apparently been legal complications over the rape charge: his EAW that got him extradited from Italy only related to the drugs charge.

"... He is currently serving an unrelated sentence for drug trafficking in the northern German city of Kiel.

German court documents show that he has served two-thirds of that sentence and can be considered for parole from Sunday onwards.

But even if a judge decides to release him on probation for the drugs offence, he will remain in custody over the rape case.

Brueckner appealed over that conviction to Germany’s Federal Court of Justice, which referred it to the European Court of Justice.

He claims his extradition to Germany under a European Arrest Warrant (EAW) was unlawful because it related to the drug charge rather than the rape.

Brueckner had fled to Italy and was found in Milan in September 2018.

Under the principle of “specialty”, extradited people can normally only be prosecuted for the crime for which the EAW was granted."

(This link isn't the original I'd read, but appears to have copied the same info.)
https://corporatedispatch.com/new-suspect-in-madeleine-mccann-case-also-investigated-over-missing-german-girl/

"...The man, named by German media as Christian Brueckner, is believed to be a rapist who was jailed in December for raping a 72-year-old American woman in Portugal.

The attack happened in Praia da Luz in September 2005, a year-and-a-half before Madeleine went missing nearby.

He denied the crime and has launched a legal challenge against his conviction that will be considered by the European Court of Justice.

It received the case on 8 May and The Independent understands that as it was filed under the “urgent preliminary ruling procedure”, a decision will be made between three and six months from that date.

The Braunschweiger Zeitung reported that the man’s defence lawyer called for him to be acquitted during the trial and appealed to Germany’s Federal Court of Justice.

The man is challenging the evidence and witness testimony against him and accuses the German authorities of violating international law and making legal errors during his extradition.

He was transferred to Germany under a European Arrest Warrant (EAW) relating to a different criminal offence.

Under the principle of “specialty”, extradited people can normally only be prosecuted for the crime for which the EAW was granted.

The rule does not apply in all circumstances and the requesting country can ask the extraditing judicial authority for consent to change or add offences.

The Federal Court of Justice referred the issue to the European Court of Justice in April.

If judges find that German authorities made a legal error, the man’s conviction could be overturned and the case will have to restart.

German suspect identified in Madeleine McCann disappearance

German officials said the man being investigated over Madeleine’s disappearance had a criminal history including sexual offences and child sexual abuse and was serving a prison sentence, but did not give further details.

He is believed to be the same man convicted in December of raping the American woman in Portugal in 2005."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/madeleine-mccann-german-suspect-rape-conviction-appeal-christian-brueckner-a9548886.html

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why now?
« Reply #253 on: June 17, 2020, 11:22:07 AM »
Luis Barros was a waiter at the Tapas, who also worked at the Mill, and said there were 20 diners on half board at the Tapas. He also said that he had to seek authorisation from his manager Steven Cova to make a block reservation for the T9. Steven Cova was the Angolan catering manager who had left at 8pm on the night Madeleine disappeared.

I don't think Barros worked at the Tapas?

Barman Millenium Restaurant

Place of Work: Ocean Club

He has worked at the Ocean Club for 14 years, always at the Millenium which is the only restaurant in the OC that serves breakfast.
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Offline Anthro

Re: Why now?
« Reply #254 on: June 17, 2020, 03:24:01 PM »
I don't think Barros worked at the Tapas?

Barman Millenium Restaurant

Place of Work: Ocean Club

He has worked at the Ocean Club for 14 years, always at the Millenium which is the only restaurant in the OC that serves breakfast.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUIS_BARROS.htm
Thank you for the correction.