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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #405 on: December 01, 2021, 05:51:12 PM »
I wonder whether supporters would sing a different tune if the dogs had targeted someone other than McCann - say Murat's property or a camper van ?

But they didn't.

Offline jassi

Re: Why now?
« Reply #406 on: December 01, 2021, 05:59:07 PM »
But they didn't.

No, funny that - only McCann property.
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Or maybe not -

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #407 on: December 01, 2021, 06:21:27 PM »
No, funny that - only McCann property.

The McCann Property?  Goodness me.  You mean that The McCanns killed Madeleine and left cadaver odour?  Do me a favour.  How stupid do you think we all are?

In the meantime how stupid are you?  Even you can't believe this

Offline jassi

Re: Why now?
« Reply #408 on: December 01, 2021, 06:27:04 PM »
The McCann Property?  Goodness me.  You mean that The McCanns killed Madeleine and left cadaver odour?  Do me a favour.  How stupid do you think we all are?

In the meantime how stupid are you?  Even you can't believe this

No, I don't believe they killed her, but that she died that night, I have no doubt.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why now?
« Reply #409 on: December 01, 2021, 06:33:52 PM »

I don't remember the name of the organisation who licensed Police Dogs in UK, but they refused to comment on Eddie and Keela because these two dogs no longer had such a licence.  It had run out by then.  The licence of these two dogs no longer existed.  Apparently Martin Grime knew better how to do this himself.

America is welcome to Martin Grime, although America isn't half daft when it comes to Cadaver Dogs.

Martin Grime was a seven day wonder in America with his frightfully dreadful English accent.  But it didn't last.

What ever it was that he said he did such terrible damage because some people just picked out the bits they wanted to believe.  And ignored the things they didn't want to know.

A seven day wonder in America? Three years and eleven months he spent under contract to the FBI! What on earth his accent has to do with anything I don't know.
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Offline John

Re: Why now?
« Reply #410 on: December 01, 2021, 06:43:37 PM »
Eddie was never a Cadaver Dog.  That was the problem.  He was a Victim Recovery Dog who was in some way Enhanced  which was never explained to anyone beyond what Martin Grime thought.

It was a terrible thing that he did for his own agrandisment.  Much glory I hope it gained for him.  This was one very nasty man.

The Enhanced bit if I recall correctly related to Eddie's training using human cadavers in America.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why now?
« Reply #411 on: December 01, 2021, 07:23:19 PM »
No, funny that - only McCann property.
Amazing... You have to wonder why Grime called Eddie back 3 times after he ignored it twice even though he didn't  realise the only car with the maddie posters on belonged to the mccanns

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #412 on: December 01, 2021, 07:28:00 PM »
The Enhanced bit if I recall correctly related to Eddie's training using human cadavers in America.

At what point in time did this happen?  Can you tell me that?

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why now?
« Reply #413 on: December 01, 2021, 07:58:46 PM »
The Enhanced bit if I recall correctly related to Eddie's training using human cadavers in America.

And Victim Recovery Dogs are "trained to search for and detect human remains." (https://www.psni.police.uk/inside-psni/our-departments/operational-support/dog-section/#:~:text=Victim%20Recovery%20Dogs.,articles%20with%20blood%20on%20them.)

A rose by any other name....
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Offline Anthro

Re: Why now?
« Reply #414 on: December 01, 2021, 08:10:52 PM »
No, I don't believe they killed her, but that she died that night, I have no doubt.
If Wolters is correct, Madeleine died within a couple of days since her disappearance. Why are you sure ‘she died that night’?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #415 on: December 01, 2021, 08:18:23 PM »

Offline John

Re: Why now?
« Reply #416 on: December 01, 2021, 08:23:15 PM »
At what point in time did this happen?  Can you tell me that?

You are just as required as the rest of us to Cites.

Attracta dog helps FBI to track killer
Published: August 22, 2006

The sniffer dog that helped detectives jail evil killer Trevor Hamilton has just returned from assisting the FBI with a murder probe in America.
Six-year-old English springer spaniel Eddie’s career took off internationally shortly after he returned to Ulster for a third time to help in the hunt for missing Arlene Arkinson.
Eddie helped police nail Hamilton after the victim-recovery dog found blood from Attracta Harron (63) on a mat from Hamilton’s burnt-out Hyundai car.
He burned it the day that he murdered the retired librarian.
Eddie found her body in a shallow grave in April 2003.
Martin Grime, Eddie’s handler at the Dog Unit attached to South Yorkshire Police Station, today told how he has returned to Tyrone to search for Arlene (15).
She went missing after leaving a disco in Bundoran, Co Donegal, on August 13 1994.
Police have recently been concentrating their search in her native Castlederg in Tyrone, where it is thought she was murdered.
Mr Grime said today: “We were over earlier this year and three times in total since the Attracta Harron case.
“With the Attracta investigation we came over for a week and on the last day, before we came back to the UK, we decided we would search the car. The stuff Eddie found was then taken away for forensic examination.
“Then when a search area was identified Eddie found the body as well. As far as the Arlene case goes, however, there has been nothing to date.”
Eddie has just returned from the US where he has been helping the FBI in a murder case.
Mr Grime said: “Dogs like Eddie are very, very good at what they do and he has lots of operational experience.
“I do some training with him every day.”
Hamilton (23) received Ulster’s longest prison sentence after he was jailed for life for the murder of Mrs Harron.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2021, 08:26:13 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #417 on: December 01, 2021, 08:24:13 PM »
If Wolters is correct, Madeleine died within a couple of days since her disappearance. Why are you sure ‘she died that night’?

Jassi believes that The McCanns killed Madeleine that night.  Christ knows what Jassi thinks The McCanns did with her body.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why now?
« Reply #418 on: December 01, 2021, 08:28:46 PM »
Attracta dog helps FBI to track killer
Published: August 22, 2006

The sniffer dog that helped detectives jail evil killer Trevor Hamilton has just returned from assisting the FBI with a murder probe in America.
Six-year-old English springer spaniel Eddie’s career took off internationally shortly after he returned to Ulster for a third time to help in the hunt for missing Arlene Arkinson.
Eddie helped police nail Hamilton after the victim-recovery dog found blood from Attracta Harron (63) on a mat from Hamilton’s burnt-out Hyundai car.
He burned it the day that he murdered the retired librarian.
Eddie found her body in a shallow grave in April 2003.
Martin Grime, Eddie’s handler at the Dog Unit attached to South Yorkshire Police Station, today told how he has returned to Tyrone to search for Arlene (15).
She went missing after leaving a disco in Bundoran, Co Donegal, on August 13 1994.
Police have recently been concentrating their search in her native Castlederg in Tyrone, where it is thought she was murdered.
Mr Grime said today: “We were over earlier this year and three times in total since the Attracta Harron case.
“With the Attracta investigation we came over for a week and on the last day, before we came back to the UK, we decided we would search the car. The stuff Eddie found was then taken away for forensic examination.
“Then when a search area was identified Eddie found the body as well. As far as the Arlene case goes, however, there has been nothing to date.”
Eddie has just returned from the US where he has been helping the FBI in a murder case.
Mr Grime said: “Dogs like Eddie are very, very good at what they do and he has lots of operational experience.
“I do some training with him every day.”
Hamilton (23) received Ulster’s longest prison sentence after he was jailed for life for the murder of Mrs Harron.

Blimmin Hell.  That one threw me.  Jolly good show.

Offline jassi

Re: Why now?
« Reply #419 on: December 01, 2021, 08:58:48 PM »
Jassi believes that The McCanns killed Madeleine that night.  Christ knows what Jassi thinks The McCanns did with her body.

On the contrary, I don't think McCann killed her, though she did die.

IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future