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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2020, 10:17:57 PM »
Sorry Brie but there is a very big question mark over this given that Kate McCanns fingerprints were the only ones found on the window. If I came across an open window in such circumstances I would have made a beeline for the front door and not waste time running to any tapas bar. Sceptics are right to question her claims and alleged actions that night since they just don't add up imo.
She didn’t run to “any tapas bar”, she searched the apartment and then ran to get help from her husband and friends, who happened to be in the OC Tapas bar.  What is incredible about that?  Where is the time wasting?
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Offline John

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2020, 10:18:28 PM »
”Has been shown” by whom?

By many people including several former detectives. There isn't a shred of evidence to support Madeleine McCann being abducted from her bed.
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Offline John

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2020, 10:19:55 PM »
She didn’t run to “any tapas bar”, she searched the apartment and then ran to get help from her husband and friends, who happened to be in the OC Tapas bar.  What is incredible about that?  Where is the time wasting?

Yes, she screamed something from the balcony and instead of going out the front to check she ran to the tapas bar wasting more time. Strangely she never once did the obvious thing and check the car park for Madeleine.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2020, 10:20:57 PM »
By many people including several former detectives. There isn't a shred of evidence to support Madeleine McCann being abducted from her bed.
There isn’t a shred of evidence she was abducted from the street.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2020, 10:22:54 PM »
Yes, she screamed something from the balcony and instead of going out the front to check she ran to the tapas bar wasting more time. Strangely she never once did the obvious thing and check the car park for Madeleine.
What do you think this means and how much time do you believe she wasted?
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Offline Brietta

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2020, 11:59:09 PM »
Sorry Brie but there is a very big question mark over this given that Kate McCanns fingerprints were the only ones found on the window. If I came across an open window in such circumstances I would have made a beeline for the front door and not waste time running to any tapas bar. Sceptics are right to question her claims and alleged actions that night since they just don't add up imo.

I don’t think there is a formula to determine how to react on discovering one of your children missing from her bed ~ the bedroom window open and finding that what you thought was a security shutter was not.

If Kate McCann had opened the window from inside she would have used the handle. 
In my opinion the position of her fingerprints on the glass is commensurate with leaning out of the window as she stated she had.  I think if the window had been opened using a hand on the glass the prints would not have been the perfect impressions of only the tips of the fingers they were, but would have been smudged particularly by the heel of the hand making contact.

It would have taken the athletic Kate seconds to run to the tapas entrance and would in my opinion have been the quickest and most effective way to raise the alarm.

I don't think anything would make sense or add up in the immediate aftermath of a kidnapping.  But what does make sense to me in retrospect as it did to Jane Tanner immediately she heard Madeleine was missing was that she had witnessed Madeleine being carried away.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2020, 01:30:09 AM »
I don’t think there is a formula to determine how to react on discovering one of your children missing from her bed ~ the bedroom window open and finding that what you thought was a security shutter was not.

If Kate McCann had opened the window from inside she would have used the handle. 
In my opinion the position of her fingerprints on the glass is commensurate with leaning out of the window as she stated she had.  I think if the window had been opened using a hand on the glass the prints would not have been the perfect impressions of only the tips of the fingers they were, but would have been smudged particularly by the heel of the hand making contact.

It would have taken the athletic Kate seconds to run to the tapas entrance and would in my opinion have been the quickest and most effective way to raise the alarm.

I don't think anything would make sense or add up in the immediate aftermath of a kidnapping.  But what does make sense to me in retrospect as it did to Jane Tanner immediately she heard Madeleine was missing was that she had witnessed Madeleine being carried away.

What doesn’t make sense is

a) Why leave the twins alone and vulnerable after finding her child gone ?
b) Why did the ‘leaning out of the window’ tale appear only 4 years after the event in Kate’s book ? No mention of it in her statement.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2020, 07:17:44 AM »
These are not questions any police force or even Amaral have agonised over for years, they are just exercises in straw clutching for those desperate to mKe something out of nothing.  Do either point make the “abduction story” laughable or less likely?  I think not.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2020, 10:23:06 AM »

Far from being laughable an extraordinary tragedy was was allowed to unfold around the disappearance of this little girl because of the obduracy of the senior investigating officer who formulated his own version of events from which he has made a lucrative living by promoting unceasingly for over thirteen years.

All done without benefit of a scrap of supporting evidence to either justify or sustain the story he invented which is why the English dogs and their misinterpreted significance were leapt on as 'evidence' which was promoted as 'proof'.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2020, 11:13:59 AM »
Far from being laughable an extraordinary tragedy was was allowed to unfold around the disappearance of this little girl because of the obduracy of the senior investigating officer who formulated his own version of events from which he has made a lucrative living by promoting unceasingly for over thirteen years.

All done without benefit of a scrap of supporting evidence to either justify or sustain the story he invented which is why the English dogs and their misinterpreted significance were leapt on as 'evidence' which was promoted as 'proof'.

It was Amaral's job to investigate Madeleine's disappearance and to gather evidence. The actions of the McCanns and their friends and family definitely hampered the investigation imo.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2020, 11:28:07 AM »
It was Amaral's job to investigate Madeleine's disappearance and to gather evidence. The actions of the McCanns and their friends and family definitely hampered the investigation imo.

his job involves acting on the evidence...he didnt understand it so he was doomed to failure

Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2020, 11:38:58 AM »
By many people including several former detectives. There isn't a shred of evidence to support Madeleine McCann being abducted from her bed.

Redwood said he believed maddie was abducted by a stranger based on the evidence...the open window is evidence of an intruder

HCW says he has evidence his suspect killed madeleine
« Last Edit: August 24, 2020, 11:49:41 AM by Davel »

Offline Brietta

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2020, 12:12:34 PM »
his job involves acting on the evidence...he didnt understand it so he was doomed to failure

Amaral was inventing a scenario in his head prior to studying any reports from the responding officers about the night before.
He worked out in his head who to be suspicious of before he had even bothered to visit the crime scene, talk to the victims or hear first hand intelligence from them or about them.

His subsequent preposterous theories would actually be laughable were it not for the paranoia being displayed revealing a mindset where he thought everyone was out to get him.  Persecution complex at the least, I think.

His ego was such that in my opinion it far eclipsed Madeleine's plight and emphasised only that he was unfit to address the complexities of her case many of which he himself is responsible for adding to the mix from day one.

Throughout the Algarve holiday homes were being entered and burgled.
Holiday homes were being entered and little girls were being assaulted in their beds.
The area including Luz appears to have been a magnet for paedophiles. 

Bearing in mind the path the investigation took it really is enough to generate hysterical laughter if Madeleine is factored out of the tragedy which in effect was what actually happened when it was decided that first Murat and then Madeleine's parents would fit whatever agenda Amaral had in his head ... perhaps an effort to sanitise his forthcoming trial ~ who knows?
« Last Edit: August 24, 2020, 12:16:06 PM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline John

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2020, 12:18:17 PM »
There isn’t a shred of evidence she was abducted from the street.

You are definitely in denial. The tracker dogs fortunately tell a different tale.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2020, 12:21:21 PM »
It was Amaral's job to investigate Madeleine's disappearance and to gather evidence. The actions of the McCanns and their friends and family definitely hampered the investigation imo.

For starters, no truly innocent parent of a missing child refuses to answer dozens of simple police questions. Such a parent would be pro active and fully assist the police but this didn't happen here!

Who or what was Kate McCann scared of?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.