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Offline Erngath

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #840 on: September 07, 2020, 01:46:58 PM »
The PJ didn't find them convincing in the first investigation and haven't given a lot away since, apart from a couple of very careful and considered interviews in 2017. The UK police have been instructed what to investigate.

So you do believe that they are being protected by this instruction?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #841 on: September 07, 2020, 01:54:35 PM »
So you do believe that they are being protected by this instruction?

Who instructed the UK police... It's about time gunit started supplying cites for her unsubstantiated claims

Offline Erngath

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #842 on: September 07, 2020, 02:31:12 PM »
Who instructed the UK police... It's about time gunit started supplying cites for her unsubstantiated claims

It's certainly a strong statement to make that the police"  were instructed what to investigate"

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #843 on: September 07, 2020, 02:40:33 PM »
It's certainly a strong statement to make that the police"  were instructed what to investigate"

I dont see its true...gunit is making a habit of posting unsubstantiated calims

Offline G-Unit

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #844 on: September 07, 2020, 02:43:32 PM »
It's certainly a strong statement to make that the police"  were instructed what to investigate"

Have you missed their remit and the words of Colin Sutton?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #845 on: September 07, 2020, 02:46:17 PM »
Have you missed their remit and the words of Colin Sutton?

no...who wrote the remit...wasnt it the police.

Colin Suttons account never mentioned the mcCanns or abduction...read it again..sutton assumed it wa sthe Mccanns he wasnt supposed to look at..he wasnt told that..

So who instructed the UK police
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Offline G-Unit

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #846 on: September 07, 2020, 03:43:06 PM »
no...who wrote the remit...wasnt it the police.

Colin Suttons account never mentioned the mcCanns or abduction...read it again..sutton assumed it wa sthe Mccanns he wasnt supposed to look at..he wasnt told that..

So who instructed the UK police

The person writing a remit isn't necessarily the person who decided what it is going to say.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #847 on: September 07, 2020, 04:00:20 PM »
The person writing a remit isn't necessarily the person who decided what it is going to say.

You claim someone instructed the UK police... You stated it as, a fact... So again.. Who was it... Or are you just making things up

Offline kizzy

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #848 on: September 07, 2020, 04:22:48 PM »
no...who wrote the remit...wasnt it the police.

Colin Suttons account never mentioned the mcCanns or abduction...read it again..sutton assumed it wa sthe Mccanns he wasnt supposed to look at..he wasnt told that..

So who instructed the UK police


So why did he say it on sky news to MB.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4467832/Met-interested-proving-McCann-parents-innocent.html


Speaking to Martin Brunt on Sky News, he said he was warned he would be tasked with proving her parents Kate and Gerry were innocent and ignoring any alternatives theories

Speaking to Martin Brunt on Sky News, he said: 'I did receive a call from a very senior met police officer who knew me and said it wouldn’t be a good idea for me to head investigation on the basis that I wouldn’t be happy conducting an investigation being told where I could go and where I couldn’t go, the things I could investigate and the things I couldn’t.

Asked to clarify what he meant, he added: 'The Scotland Yard investigation was going to be very narrowly focused and that focus would be away from any suspicion of wrongdoing on the part of the McCanns or the tapas friends.'

The Tapas Nine refers to the McCann parents and the seven friends they were out to dinner with when Madeleine disappeared in 2007.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #849 on: September 07, 2020, 04:53:30 PM »

So why did he say it on sky news to MB.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4467832/Met-interested-proving-McCann-parents-innocent.html


Speaking to Martin Brunt on Sky News, he said he was warned he would be tasked with proving her parents Kate and Gerry were innocent and ignoring any alternatives theories

Speaking to Martin Brunt on Sky News, he said: 'I did receive a call from a very senior met police officer who knew me and said it wouldn’t be a good idea for me to head investigation on the basis that I wouldn’t be happy conducting an investigation being told where I could go and where I couldn’t go, the things I could investigate and the things I couldn’t.

Asked to clarify what he meant, he added: 'The Scotland Yard investigation was going to be very narrowly focused and that focus would be away from any suspicion of wrongdoing on the part of the McCanns or the tapas friends.'

The Tapas Nine refers to the McCann parents and the seven friends they were out to dinner with when Madeleine disappeared in 2007.


According  to Sutton on his blog... The senior source did not mention the McCanns.. That was an assumption made by Sutton

Offline The General

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #850 on: September 07, 2020, 04:55:26 PM »
According  to Sutton on his blog... The senior source did not mention the McCanns.. That was an assumption made by Sutton
'Show me the bloggy'.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #851 on: September 07, 2020, 04:58:37 PM »
'Show me the bloggy'.

However, before this, just a few days after the NotW story I did receive a call from a senior officer in the Met whom I knew quite well.  This officer told me I would do better to avoid the McCann investigation if it did happen, because "You wouldn't be happy leading an investigation where you were told what you could look at and what you could not".

That is the totality of the advice I received. It was made clear that this was an ‘unofficial’ call and that it was made in my interest – so that I might not end up taking on a task which would ultimately frustrate me.  As such I never pressed the caller for more information, nor will I ever be in a position to disclose who the officer was.

I was familiar enough with the reporting of the McCann case in the media to understand that there was a widespread reluctance to talk of any scenario which did not involve an abduction and in which no blame or complicity was to be attributed to the parents and their friends.  This struck me as odd but, in those days, quite frankly I was busy enough with he investigations I was involved in without undertaking any 'off the books' look at what had gone on in Praia de Luz.  I had assumed that there was good reason for this; that those who had been involved had satisfied themselves that was the case




"You wouldn't be happy leading an investigation where you were told what you could look at and what you could not".

That is the totality of the advice I received.



so the totality of the advice he received was....
"You wouldn't be happy leading an investigation where you were told what you could look at and what you could not".


Not a mention of the McCanns

http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/2017/05/madeleine-mccann-and-operation-grange_9.html



Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #852 on: September 07, 2020, 05:06:03 PM »
Of course if sutton had taken the Job he would have been told where he could and couldnt look...who he could and couldnt interview......he would be limited by ILORs and the portuguese police

Offline The General

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #853 on: September 07, 2020, 05:29:43 PM »
Of course if sutton had taken the Job he would have been told where he could and couldnt look...who he could and couldnt interview......he would be limited by ILORs and the portuguese police
So it bears out the premise that he was given the gypsies by a concerned party and gave it a swerve knowing that he wouldn't be able to investigate anything other than abduction - which is exactly the same thing.
Thanks for the link by the way.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #854 on: September 07, 2020, 05:49:47 PM »
So it bears out the premise that he was given the gypsies by a concerned party and gave it a swerve knowing that he wouldn't be able to investigate anything other than abduction - which is exactly the same thing.
Thanks for the link by the way.

You have it wrong too... His source never mentioned  abduction... In my experience  sceptics get a lot wrong