Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[G-Unit]

Alleged by the German prosecutor - do you think he decided it was on a whim?

He came upon an unregistered phone number which he believed was connected to CB. The phone received a call through the Vodaphone mast in PdL from another unregistered phone number. The actual location of the receiving phone cannot be pinpointed because the mast didn't just pick up calls made and received within PdL.

[Vertigo Swirl]

He came upon an unregistered phone number which he believed was connected to CB. The phone received a call through the Vodaphone mast in PdL from another unregistered phone number. The actual location of the receiving phone cannot be pinpointed because the mast didn't just pick up calls made and received within PdL.

So you’re saying completely on a whim and with absolutely no evidence to link the phone to CB, the German Prosecutor just decided it was his?

[Robittybob1]

He came upon an unregistered phone number which he believed was connected to CB. The phone received a call through the Vodaphone mast in PdL from another unregistered phone number. The actual location of the receiving phone cannot be pinpointed because the mast didn't just pick up calls made and received within PdL.

Your reasoning why the call "cannot be pinpointed" as you say "because the mast didn't just pick up calls made and received within PdL".   Most cellphone masts today don't "just pick up calls made and received within an area" yet they can pinpoint a phone in the area.

The science of it seems to be explained insufficiently.

[Mr Gray]

Your reasoning why the call "cannot be pinpointed" as you say "because the mast didn't just pick up calls made and received within PdL".   Most cellphone masts today don't "just pick up calls made and received within an area" yet they can pinpoint a phone in the area.

The science of it seems to be explained insufficiently.

It depends if they have the in and out ping data which will tell them how far from the mast the phone was

[Robittybob1]

It depends if they have the in and out ping data which will tell them how far from the mast the phone was

So how long is this "ping data" kept?  I was aware the PJ had a list of all the phone numbers of phones called and used for the call.  But did they keep the ping data?

[Mr Gray]

So how long is this "ping data" kept?  I was aware the PJ had a list of all the phone numbers of phones called and used for the call.  But did they keep the ping data?

Ive no idea...does anyone know

[G-Unit]

So how long is this "ping data" kept?  I was aware the PJ had a list of all the phone numbers of phones called and used for the call.  But did they keep the ping data?

They never had it imo.

[Robittybob1]

They never had it imo.

The telephone companies have a way of saving this data. 
But how long is it saved for?  The data may still be accessible, I just don't know. 

[kizzy]

His phone was, someone must have been using it.  How often do you lend your mobile to others to take away and use?  I have never done so in 20 years of using one.

IIRC wasn't the phone number found in a phonebook connecting it to CB.

The phone could have been sold on IMO

seems those addicted to substances sell their soul for a few euro. not as if it was contracted to him

He maybe wasn't the one who made the call.

[Mr Gray]

IIRC wasn't the phone number found in a phonebook connecting it to CB.

The phone could have been sold on IMO

seems those addicted to substances sell their soul for a few euro. not as if it was contracted to him

He maybe wasn't the one who made the call.

But the phone call is not the strong evidence that Maddie is dead and CB killed her..that's the important point

[jassi]

Your reasoning why the call "cannot be pinpointed" as you say "because the mast didn't just pick up calls made and received within PdL".   Most cellphone masts today don't "just pick up calls made and received within an area" yet they can pinpoint a phone in the area.

The science of it seems to be explained insufficiently.

Not sure that pinpoint is the correct term to use in this context.
The phone can be placed within the reception area of the mast, nothing more.

IMO

[kizzy]

But the phone call is not the strong evidence that Maddie is dead and CB killed her..that's the important point

The important point is he has nothing but backtracking and words. nothing else

I'm I am not allowed to discuss. when MS asks about the dogs.

[Mr Gray]

The important point is he has nothing but backtracking and words. nothing else

I'm I am not allowed to discuss. when MS asks about the dogs.

he said the strong evidence is not the phone or witness words...he said the evidence is so strong that maddie is dead and CB murdered her....I dont see that as back tracking...I see as moving forward. Could have similar evidence as in the RUI Pedro case

[kizzy]

he said the strong evidence is not the phone or witness words...he said the evidence is so strong that maddie is dead and CB murdered her....I dont see that as back tracking...I see as moving forward. Could have similar evidence as in the RUI Pedro case

...he said the evidence is so strong that maddie is dead and CB murdered her....

Oh how ridiculous...so why doesn't he charge him then what is he waiting for.

[Robittybob1]

Not sure that pinpoint is the correct term to use in this context.
The phone can be placed within the reception area of the mast, nothing more.

IMO

I'm thinking more in the terms of multiple masts, and how they triangulate where the call originates.  Very technical methods are used.  But you are right if there is just one mast one of the phones had to be within the reception area.