Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[G-Unit]

Isn't it strange that sceptics who had no problem with the PJ beating a confession out of Cipriano are now so concerned with justice

Who was convicted of beating a confession out of Cipriano?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Who was convicted of beating a confession out of Cipriano?

No one, only because Cipriano had a bag over her head and couldn't say who her agressor(s) was.  But torture was a fact proven in court, remember?

[Eleanor]

No one, only because Cipriano had a bag over her head and couldn't say who her agressor(s) was.  But torture was a fact proven in court, remember?

Yes it was.  The Court stated that Leonor Cipriano was beaten while in Police Custody, while Amaral lied In Court and was convicted of Perjury

Nothing circumstantial about that.

[Brietta]

Scotland Yard’s attitude to Wolter and his ‘evidence’ tells us everything we need to know. Have you listened to the MS’s podcast yet ?

Amaral is old news I’m afraid and you really do need to move on.

"Amaral is old news I’m afraid and you really do need to move on."  faithlilly

You are mistaken.

Amaral of his own volition has chosen to interject what is definitely FALSE evidence into an active police investigation as well as ensuring that what I assume to be highly confidential information regarding the identity of the German police prime suspect was released into the public domain.

Until Amaral chose to do that there was a general consensus that Ney was that person of interest.  Amaral ensured that further speculation revealed Brueckner to the world.

In my opinion sceptics simply do not wish to discuss any information which reveals the bizarre and obsessive nature of this man; who not content with presiding over the flawed and botched investigation into Madeleine's disappearance appears to be interfering with the present German investigation.


Snip
Former Portuguese police chief Goncalo Amaral has revealed a German paedophile suspected over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance is not Martin Ney.

The ex-cop sparked speculation Ney was the prime suspect after saying in an interview earlier this year investigators were focusing on a German paedophile in prison.
________________________________________________________________

In his interview with an Australian podcast, he mentioned the possibility of a German paedophile being responsible - but he didn’t mention 49-year-old Hamburg-born child strangler Ney by name.

Instead he described the suspect only as someone who had been ruled out of the investigation into the missing British youngster in 2008 but later jailed in his home country.

Now Mr Amaral, the original lead investigator in the case, has now said the suspect isn’t Ney, who was jailed for life in 2012 for abducting and murdering three children, and sexually abusing dozens more.

When he was shown a photo of him on Spanish TV, Amaral responded: “It can’t be him.”

“A paedophile who is German and serving life for killing children has been spoken about,” he told a show about missing adults and children.

“What I know is that the suspect is not him, it’s another man. He’s also in prison in Germany. He’s also a paedophile.”

In a bizarre twist, Mr Amaral said the suspect looks similar to Madeleine’s dad Gerry before saying that Ney bears no resemblance to him.

https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-mostra-retrato-robo-de-suspeito-do-suspeito-do-caso-maddie-em-2007-que-desmente-versao-alema


As a matter of courtesy ~ please do not suggest either to me or any other member what or who is a topic for discussion just because in my opinion it embarrasses you as a sceptic;  Amaral is current news and he took considerable pains to ensure that

[Mr Gray]

Who was convicted of beating a confession out of Cipriano?

the court accepted she was beaten in custody....amaral was convicted of perjury trying to cover it up

do you condemn police beating confessions out of suspects

[jassi]

"Amaral is old news I’m afraid and you really do need to move on."  faithlilly

You are mistaken.

Amaral of his own volition has chosen to interject what is definitely FALSE evidence into an active police investigation as well as ensuring that what I assume to be highly confidential information regarding the identity of the German police prime suspect was released into the public domain.

Until Amaral chose to do that there was a general consensus that Ney was that person of interest.  Amaral ensured that further speculation revealed Brueckner to the world.

In my opinion sceptics simply do not wish to discuss any information which reveals the bizarre and obsessive nature of this man; who not content with presiding over the flawed and botched investigation into Madeleine's disappearance appears to be interfering with the present German investigation.


Snip
Former Portuguese police chief Goncalo Amaral has revealed a German paedophile suspected over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance is not Martin Ney.

The ex-cop sparked speculation Ney was the prime suspect after saying in an interview earlier this year investigators were focusing on a German paedophile in prison.
________________________________________________________________

In his interview with an Australian podcast, he mentioned the possibility of a German paedophile being responsible - but he didn’t mention 49-year-old Hamburg-born child strangler Ney by name.

Instead he described the suspect only as someone who had been ruled out of the investigation into the missing British youngster in 2008 but later jailed in his home country.

Now Mr Amaral, the original lead investigator in the case, has now said the suspect isn’t Ney, who was jailed for life in 2012 for abducting and murdering three children, and sexually abusing dozens more.

When he was shown a photo of him on Spanish TV, Amaral responded: “It can’t be him.”

“A paedophile who is German and serving life for killing children has been spoken about,” he told a show about missing adults and children.

“What I know is that the suspect is not him, it’s another man. He’s also in prison in Germany. He’s also a paedophile.”

In a bizarre twist, Mr Amaral said the suspect looks similar to Madeleine’s dad Gerry before saying that Ney bears no resemblance to him.

https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-mostra-retrato-robo-de-suspeito-do-suspeito-do-caso-maddie-em-2007-que-desmente-versao-alema


As a matter of courtesy ~ please do not suggest either to me or any other member what or who is a topic for discussion just because in my opinion it embarrasses you as a sceptic;  Amaral is current news and he took considerable pains to ensure that

Nah, you are just an Amaral obsessive.
Nothing he  says will have any influence on this case. Neither will anything you say about him. 
IMO

[Brietta]

Nah, you are just an Amaral obsessive.
Nothing he  says will have any influence on this case. Neither will anything you say about him. 
IMO

It certainly won't be for the want of him trying and what interests me is the why of it.


And I will thank you in future to desist from dropping goading ad homs into your posts ... it is definitely against forum rules as well as being horrifically impolite.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Nah, you are just an Amaral obsessive.
Nothing he  says will have any influence on this case. Neither will anything you say about him. 
IMO

If Brietta is an Amaral obsessive what does that make those on here that go on and on about the McCanns and their behaviour, their statements, etc?

[jassi]

If Brietta is an Amaral obsessive what does that make those on here that go on and on about the McCanns and their behaviour, their statements, etc?

The McCanns are principal players so must remain centre stage, whereas Amaral is merely a bit player with a walk on/walk off part in the early scenes of this drama.

If as much effort had been put into seeking Madeleine as was put into vilifying Amaral, then we might have a result by now.

All IMO.

[Mr Gray]

The McCanns are principal players so must remain centre stage, whereas Amaral is merely a bit player with a walk on/walk off part in the early scenes of this drama.

If as much effort had been put into seeking Madeleine as was put into vilifying Amaral, then we might have a result by now.

All IMO.

if amaral had done his job properly CB may have already been thoroughly investigated...all my opinion

[Vertigo Swirl]

The McCanns are principal players so must remain centre stage, whereas Amaral is merely a bit player with a walk on/walk off part in the early scenes of this drama.

If as much effort had been put into seeking Madeleine as was put into vilifying Amaral, then we might have a result by now.

All IMO.

Well just consider all the effort put into “Justice 4 Maddie” by the sceptic keyboard warriors over the last 13 years.  That really paid off didn’t it?!

[jassi]

Well just consider all the effort put into “Justice 4 Maddie” by the sceptic keyboard warriors over the last 13 years.  That really paid off didn’t it?!

Not a site I'm familiar with so I'm afraid I can't.
I stick with this site

[Vertigo Swirl]

Not a site I'm familiar with so I'm afraid I can't.
I stick with this site

I wasn’t quoting a site, I was quoting the concept, as described by many a sceptic in the last 13 years.  Perhaps you are completely unaware of the hundreds on keyboard warriors who have seemingly dedicated their every waking moment to achieving this (but only if it means banging up the parents).

[jassi]

I wasn’t quoting a site, I was quoting the concept, as described by many a sceptic in the last 13 years.  Perhaps you are completely unaware of the hundreds on keyboard warriors who have seemingly dedicated their every waking moment to achieving this (but only if it means banging up the parents).

I only see the ones on here and funnily enough, they seem to be mainly supporters, judging by their posting rate.

[Mr Gray]

I only see the ones on here and funnily enough, they seem to be mainly supporters, judging by their posting rate.

I feel very strongly about it...justice that is..