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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2760 on: November 09, 2020, 10:13:03 AM »
I wouldn't.
Eddie has passed now so he can't be tested anymore.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2761 on: November 09, 2020, 10:13:21 AM »
They certainly discussed the subject in their first contact with lawyers, eight days after Madeleine disappeared, so it was on their minds. Kate's mother was horrified;

'Why did they think it was OK to do this?' asked Susan Healy, 62.

She revealed that her first words to the couple in the frantic phone call informing her of Madeleine's disappearance were: 'Where were you?'
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/where-were-you-that-night-kate-what-grandmother-said-after-she-was-told-that-madeleine-had-been-6661215.html

"They certainly discussed the subject in their first contact with lawyers, eight days after Madeleine disappeared, so it was on their minds."
Got a cite for that please?

Do you have anything solid ~ or even an opinion ~ about what Brueckner was doing or where he was eight days after Madeleine disappeared?  Hopefully the German investigation will turn up some information about that.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2762 on: November 09, 2020, 10:16:07 AM »
Eddie has passed now so he can't be tested anymore.

I don't think he ever properly was.  Too many Old Tricks.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2763 on: November 09, 2020, 10:21:28 AM »
Eddie has passed now so he can't be tested anymore.

passed what...There is no real record of his abilities

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2764 on: November 09, 2020, 10:23:52 AM »
passed what...There is no real record of his abilities
Passed into doggy heaven.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2765 on: November 09, 2020, 10:34:33 AM »
Spite.

I like spite.
Explain what you like about it please.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2766 on: November 09, 2020, 10:56:08 AM »
Kate's mother won't have had the full facts of what The McCanns did, where they were or of them checking on the children regularly.  It was hardly the time to go into that.

But Yes, let's drag her out again and her shock motivated remark.  "Where were you" should tell us all that Mrs. Healy didn't know the circumstances at that point.

As she said that in April 2008 I expect she'd heard all the excuses by that point.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2768 on: November 09, 2020, 11:00:22 AM »
As she said that in April 2008 I expect she'd heard all the excuses by that point.

Mrs. Healy asked, "Where were you?"  in 2008.  You mean she didn't know by then?  Her own Mother?

Everybody else did.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2769 on: November 09, 2020, 11:07:55 AM »
"They certainly discussed the subject in their first contact with lawyers, eight days after Madeleine disappeared, so it was on their minds."
Got a cite for that please?

Do you have anything solid ~ or even an opinion ~ about what Brueckner was doing or where he was eight days after Madeleine disappeared?  Hopefully the German investigation will turn up some information about that.

 After examining the proximity of the Tapas restaurant to apartment 5A, the barrister first of all assured us that our behaviour could not be deemed negligent and was indeed ‘well within the bounds of reasonable parenting’.
[madeleine]

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2770 on: November 09, 2020, 11:14:44 AM »
As she said that in April 2008 I expect she'd heard all the excuses by that point.
I don't think you could have read the remarks Susan Healey made in context.  "Where Were You?" was not a question asked in 2008 but during the phone conversation with her daughter in the immediate aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance, which was Brietta's point I believe.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2771 on: November 09, 2020, 11:30:27 AM »
I don't think you could have read the remarks Susan Healey made in context.  "Where Were You?" was not a question asked in 2008 but during the phone conversation with her daughter in the immediate aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance, which was Brietta's point I believe.

And mine.  It is not possible to believe that Mrs. Healy asked this question in 2008.  It simply doesn't make sense.

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2772 on: November 09, 2020, 11:59:12 AM »
After examining the proximity of the Tapas restaurant to apartment 5A, the barrister first of all assured us that our behaviour could not be deemed negligent and was indeed ‘well within the bounds of reasonable parenting’.
[madeleine]

You tend to cherry pick your quotes a tad I think.  It goes on to say ...

The lawyers then talked to us about applying for an order to make Madeleine a ward of court.
Wardship status gives the courts certain statutory powers to act on a child’s behalf in any legal disputes and to bypass some of the data-protection laws that deal with access to information (hotel guest records, for example, and airline passenger lists), when knowledge of this information is considered to be in the interests of the child in question.

Such an order could be useful in acquiring records not otherwise available to us that might be relevant in
our case. We decided to proceed with an application, which was granted in due course.  madeleine ... Kate McCann


The lawyers in question were from a firm of specialists in family law, the International Family Law Group (IFLG) whose visit to Portugal was as the result of an offer to help.
Do you think taking advice which was aimed at securing Madeleine's best interests is worth a pejorative mention?  I've got to admit your attitude puzzles me.

Now, as I was saying ~ offers of help (also detailed in madeleine) included the appraisal of the horrible reality of the possibility that a paedophile was responsible for taking Madeleine.
You seem to be concentrating on Kate and Gerry who despite the extensive documentation available remain clear of anything approaching evidence against them (sceptic shibboleths just don't count) ignoring the other half of the equation in the thread title.
Don't you think it is time to lay off the McCanns and time instead to discuss Brueckner's inviolable rights.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2020, 12:01:57 PM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2773 on: November 09, 2020, 12:07:20 PM »
I'd say, think again.

I've thought about it Rob,  a cadaver does not emit gases in the fresh stage of decomposition.  It is more likely Eddie alerted to something that had had blood on it and had been taken away,  he alerted near to where the dirty washing was stacked.   The blood behind the sofa couldn't have been from Madeleine as surely if she had bled behind the sofa more that a tiny speck of blood would have been there and also would have shown up in the grout of the tiles. IMO

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2774 on: November 09, 2020, 12:15:05 PM »
And mine.  It is not possible to believe that Mrs. Healy asked this question in 2008.  It simply doesn't make sense.

Someone said her initial reaction was because she didn't know all the circumstances at the time. In 2008 she knew all the circumstances, but was willing to repeat what she had thought and to add;

she said she could understand public anger at the couple for going to dinner while their children slept unattended in an unlocked apartment more than 50 yards away.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1017189/Where-night-Kate-What-grandmother-said-told-Madeleine-snatched.html
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