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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #780 on: September 29, 2020, 08:34:15 PM »
Not when it's recorded as fact. There's a very finite tipping point. Get used to it.

Its still an opinion

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #781 on: September 30, 2020, 11:18:03 AM »
No its sceptics who misquote the  SC who I wish to address. I think its the SC who misunderstand the law. I think claiming to have been cleared when the suspect is told there is no evidence of any crime is quite reasonable...but the SC decided to rewrite the despatch

To return to the topic, it seems that the phone call to CB's alleged number doesn't tell the investigators much at all. What other evidence there is we don't know.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #782 on: September 30, 2020, 11:24:19 AM »
To return to the topic, it seems that the phone call to CB's alleged number doesn't tell the investigators much at all. What other evidence there is we don't know.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #783 on: September 30, 2020, 11:33:05 AM »
Are you in a strong position to judge?

I know where the phone information the Germans consulted came from and what it showed. As they appealed for the caller to come forward I know that they needed confirmation that CB answered the phone that they think he was using. I also know that even then they will need to show that the phone call was significant in some way. Proving that he was within range of the Luz Vodaphone mast is not evidence of criminal activity.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #784 on: September 30, 2020, 11:39:06 AM »
I know where the phone information the Germans consulted came from and what it showed. As they appealed for the caller to come forward I know that they needed confirmation that CB answered the phone that they think he was using. I also know that even then they will need to show that the phone call was significant in some way. Proving that he was within range of the Luz Vodaphone mast is not evidence of criminal activity.
Being in close proximity to PdL in itself is not evidence of criminal activity.  But burglary, child abuse and rape is.  Put them together and you have means, motive and opportunity. 
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Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #785 on: September 30, 2020, 11:48:38 AM »
Being in close proximity to PdL in itself is not evidence of criminal activity.  But burglary, child abuse and rape is.  Put them together and you have means, motive and opportunity.

Well in my opinion a tragic accident that could ruin the mccs I believe.carreer/family etc.

Could also be Put them together and you have means, motive and opportunity.


Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #786 on: September 30, 2020, 12:01:28 PM »
Well in my opinion a tragic accident that could ruin the mccs I believe.carreer/family etc.

Could also be Put them together and you have means, motive and opportunity.
Then it should be very simple for you to describe a coherent and plausible theory of parental involvement.   I’m all ears...
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #787 on: September 30, 2020, 12:26:52 PM »
Being in close proximity to PdL in itself is not evidence of criminal activity.  But burglary, child abuse and rape is.  Put them together and you have means, motive and opportunity.

It's not evidence that he was doing anything wrong on 3rd May though.
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Offline kizzy

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« Reply #788 on: September 30, 2020, 12:35:20 PM »
Then it should be very simple for you to describe a coherent and plausible theory of parental involvement.   I’m all ears...

Why on earth should I have to explain myself to you, I have already posted the plausible theory.


Offline Angelo222

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #789 on: September 30, 2020, 02:25:09 PM »
Being in close proximity to PdL in itself is not evidence of criminal activity.  But burglary, child abuse and rape is.  Put them together and you have means, motive and opportunity.

Christian B is many things but I have never seen anyone (outside Maddie case) claim that he is a killer.  IMO he is nothing more than yet another patsy. Had he been a free man the German authorities would never have dared reveal his name.

I don't believe for a second that Brueckner ever saw Maddie let alone abducted her.
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #790 on: September 30, 2020, 02:59:04 PM »
Christian B is many things but I have never seen anyone (outside Maddie case) claim that he is a killer.  IMO he is nothing more than yet another patsy. Had he been a free man the German authorities would never have dared reveal his name.

I don't believe for a second that Brueckner ever saw Maddie let alone abducted her.

Brueckner holds a unique position in the eyes of serious investigators in the three national police forces who have been following the evidence in Madeleine's case.

"THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE POLICE HAVE MADE FORMAL SUSPICIONS IN THE MADDIE CASE"

The Judiciary Police, Metropolitan Police in London and the German police, who have been secretly liaising in recent years, came to a formal suspect in the abduction and death of Madeleine McCann, an English child who disappeared in May 2007 in Praia da Luz, Lagos, when he was just three years old.

Henrique Machado, TVI's justice editor, recalled that over the past 13 years the police have never assumed formal suspicions about any suspect.

https://tvi24.iol.pt/videos/e-a-primeira-vez-que-a-policia-assume-suspeitas-formais-no-caso-maddie/5ed7ed610cf2634381aeb93e
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #791 on: September 30, 2020, 03:12:50 PM »
Brueckner holds a unique position in the eyes of serious investigators in the three national police forces who have been following the evidence in Madeleine's case.

"THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE POLICE HAVE MADE FORMAL SUSPICIONS IN THE MADDIE CASE"

The Judiciary Police, Metropolitan Police in London and the German police, who have been secretly liaising in recent years, came to a formal suspect in the abduction and death of Madeleine McCann, an English child who disappeared in May 2007 in Praia da Luz, Lagos, when he was just three years old.

Henrique Machado, TVI's justice editor, recalled that over the past 13 years the police have never assumed formal suspicions about any suspect.

https://tvi24.iol.pt/videos/e-a-primeira-vez-que-a-policia-assume-suspeitas-formais-no-caso-maddie/5ed7ed610cf2634381aeb93e

He's forgotten the four arguidos instigated by OG in July 2014, six years ago, it seems.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #792 on: September 30, 2020, 03:32:03 PM »
He's forgotten the four arguidos instigated by OG in July 2014, six years ago, it seems.

I do not think he has.  They were questioned as arguidos for their own protection as dictated by Portuguese law which we have discussed ad nauseam.  Brueckner has not been questioned at all, yet he is a formal suspect.  Entirely different.

Of course we might be able to make a more informed decision if the currently available spate of video clips from Portuguese TV was being translated for us by the usual translators.
But they are not.
What I have noticed are clips of a dog barking its head off and a dearth of the weel kent faces we usually see as pundits on these shows.  Not much now from Amaral and certainly nothing from Cristovao:  I think some bubbles may well have been burst :(
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #793 on: September 30, 2020, 03:45:55 PM »
I do not think he has.  They were questioned as arguidos for their own protection as dictated by Portuguese law which we have discussed ad nauseam.  Brueckner has not been questioned at all, yet he is a formal suspect.  Entirely different.

Of course we might be able to make a more informed decision if the currently available spate of video clips from Portuguese TV was being translated for us by the usual translators.
But they are not.
What I have noticed are clips of a dog barking its head off and a dearth of the weel kent faces we usually see as pundits on these shows.  Not much now from Amaral and certainly nothing from Cristovao:  I think some bubbles may well have been burst :(


I think some bubbles may well have been burst :(

Not much now from HCW. either.

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #794 on: September 30, 2020, 04:33:49 PM »
Is this the start of the crumbling circumstantial evidence.


‘CAN’T PIN IT ON HIM’ Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B could be cleared of Irish woman’s rape as DNA doesn’t match crime scene


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12809102/cops-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-rape-dna/