Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[Mr Gray]

I think any prosecution would need to prove that the phone was his, not for him to prove it belonged to someone else.
Perhaps they can do this, perhaps they can't.

Again it will be the totality of the evidence...

[Eleanor]

I'm agreeing with you Eleanor

Thanks.  Yes, I know.

[Lace]

If people thought Madeleine was dead of course they wouldn't keep an eye out for her.


That was one of  my points.

So its wrong for GA to say ...[Maddie is dead.]

Yet ok when HCW says ...... [Maddie is dead.]

Double standards or what. L

Has HCW written a book telling the world that Madeline is dead ?

[Lace]

You make the basic assumption that the phone in question was his. This would need to be proved to a Court's satisfaction.

Could it be that the Police have checked other conversations CB had on this phone and found that he does own it?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think any prosecution would need to prove that the phone was his, not for him to prove it belonged to someone else.
Perhaps they can do this, perhaps they can't.

I thought it had been established that the phone was his?  I thought your argument was that the prosecution would have to prove he hadn't lent it to a friend that night (or some other tall story his lawyers might cook up).

[Lace]

You're making assumptions, that's all, because you have no way of knowing what other people remember. As to the 'girlfriend' she is alleged to have told a friend what Brueckner said and he (the friend) told The Sun. If that's the kind of gossip you're quoting as fact you are clutching at straws imo.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11823591/madeleine-mccann-suspect-horrible-job/

Christian B disappeared at the same time as Madeleine — resurfacing three years later working in a bar in Lagos, around six miles from Praia da Luz.

G-Unit can you point out where in the article it says the ex girlfriend told a friend and the friend told the Sun please.

[jassi]

Could it be that the Police have checked other conversations CB had on this phone and found that he does own it?

Maybe, maybe not.

[jassi]

I thought it had been established that the phone was his? I thought your argument was that the prosecution would have to prove he hadn't lent it to a friend that night (or some other tall story his lawyers might cook up).

Has it?  You have a cite for this ?

[Mr Gray]

Maybe, maybe not.

Precisely we don't know what evidence the Germans have....but wolters says he has enough to show CB killed MM.....that is quite a bold statement

[Vertigo Swirl]

Has it?  You have a cite for this ?

No, that's why I wrote it as a question, not a statement. 

[jassi]

No, that's why I wrote it as a question, not a statement.

Fair enough .

[pathfinder73]

Again it will be the totality of the evidence...

No evidence - nothing has changed since June. Wolters is bluffing and hasn't got a clue!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Fair enough .

You probably will reject this as a cite, so here goes nothing

German police believe a key piece of evidence proves prime suspect Christian Brueckner was outside the Ocean Club minutes before Madeleine McCann was snatched.

Brueckner had made a 30-minute call to a phone registered to a man named Diogo Silva just an hour before McCann disappeared.

Prosecutors have since traced the phone used by Brueckner, claiming it connected to the mast owned by the resort complex where the McCanns were staying.

The phone call has been a central part of the renewed police probe since the twice-convicted paedophile was named as a key suspect earlier this month.

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Police are currently probing the call, but admit the content of the call is yet unclear.

Christian Brueckner's secret lair uncovered more than 8000 videos and files of his offending. Photo / Police
Christian Brueckner's secret lair uncovered more than 8000 videos and files of his offending. Photo / Police
Brueckner is believed to have started the call at 7.32pm and ending at 8.02pm on May 3, 2007.

About an hour after the call ended, McCann was taken from the holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

She vanished between 9.10pm and 10pm.

Appearing on 60 Minutes, Prosecutor Hans Wolters said they feel they are close to locating the final pieces of evidence.

"We know that the phone number which was used by our suspect on May 3, 2007, was connecting to the mast which belongs to the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz," he said.

The room where Madeleine McCann was snatched from. Photo / Portuguese Police
The room where Madeleine McCann was snatched from. Photo / Portuguese Police
TV host Liz Hayes then presses the prosecutor on if they can place Brueckner at the scene.

He replies: "Yes, we think so."

[jassi]

You probably will reject this as a cite, so here goes nothing

I'm not in the habit of rejecting cites even when no source is provided.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm not in the habit of rejecting cites even when no source is provided.

so you accept the cite?