Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[jassi]

so you accept the cite?

I accept you have provided a cite, which is more than some do.
It is difficult to tell how reliable it is until tested in a court of law.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I accept you have provided a cite, which is more than some do.
It is difficult to tell how reliable it is until tested in a court of law.

I think as the info came from the German Prosecutor then it should be reliable, unless you have evidence that the German Prosecutor is a liar who makes stuff up for fun.

[Mr Gray]

You're making assumptions, that's all, because you have no way of knowing what other people remember. As to the 'girlfriend' she is alleged to have told a friend what Brueckner said and he (the friend) told The Sun. If that's the kind of gossip you're quoting as fact you are clutching at straws imo.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11823591/madeleine-mccann-suspect-horrible-job/

looks like youve misread the article...there were friends present at the time as wel as his girlfriend it seems.....he is reported to have said...

The then 30-year-old drifter told her: “I have a job to do in Praia da Luz tomorrow. It’s a horrible job but it’s something I have to do and it will change my life. You won’t be seeing me for a while.”

if he did disappear off the scene after may 2 taht validates the girlfriends statement. i would say thse are the sort of things Wolters is checking out....hes far fromthe fool some want to beleive he is.

[G-Unit]

Christian B disappeared at the same time as Madeleine — resurfacing three years later working in a bar in Lagos, around six miles from Praia da Luz.

G-Unit can you point out where in the article it says the ex girlfriend told a friend and the friend told the Sun please.

The article begins;

A BRITISH ex-girlfriend of Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B claims the night before the toddler’s abduction he told her: “I have a horrible job to do in Praia da Luz tomorrow.”

She also told how she asked him if he snatched Madeleine McCann — and he warned: “Just don’t go there.”

But wait! It seems there are two ex-girlfriends, not one;

One has told of a chilling conversation she had with Christian B over dinner on May 2, 2007 and the other one said;

It was in the bar in 2010 that his other British girlfriend suggested he was a dead ringer for some of the photofits of the Madeleine suspects — and jokingly asked: “You did it Christian, didn’t you?”

A friend of the girls said today: “He blanked the question and shrugged — then added, ‘Just don’t go there’.”

You might have noticed now that it was the friend who told The Sun about this girlfriend's words. Most of the comments which followed were attributed to the friend also. At no point is there a claim that The Sun spoke directly to either woman. In fact there's a clear suggestion that one of them definitely didn't;

The ex-husband of one of the women, a businessman who still lives in Lagos, was also spoken to by Interpol last year as police pieced together Christian B's history.

He has refused to say what police asked or how he knew Christian B.

The husband said: “We’ve decided not to talk. The police have been in touch and we’ve spoken to them. I spoke to Interpol last year.

“I’m speaking on behalf of my ex too. We don’t want to be involved.”

[jassi]

I think as the info came from the German Prosecutor then it should be reliable, unless you have evidence that the German Prosecutor is a liar who makes stuff up for fun.

The difficulty is determining what is reported and what has actually been said. Lying doesn't enter into it - IMO.

[Mr Gray]

The article begins;

A BRITISH ex-girlfriend of Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B claims the night before the toddler’s abduction he told her: “I have a horrible job to do in Praia da Luz tomorrow.”

She also told how she asked him if he snatched Madeleine McCann — and he warned: “Just don’t go there.”

But wait! It seems there are two ex-girlfriends, not one;

One has told of a chilling conversation she had with Christian B over dinner on May 2, 2007 and the other one said;

It was in the bar in 2010 that his other British girlfriend suggested he was a dead ringer for some of the photofits of the Madeleine suspects — and jokingly asked: “You did it Christian, didn’t you?”

A friend of the girls said today: “He blanked the question and shrugged — then added, ‘Just don’t go there’.”

You might have noticed now that it was the friend who told The Sun about this girlfriend's words. Most of the comments which followed were attributed to the friend also. At no point is there a claim that The Sun spoke directly to either woman. In fact there's a clear suggestion that one of them definitely didn't;

The ex-husband of one of the women, a businessman who still lives in Lagos, was also spoken to by Interpol last year as police pieced together Christian B's history.

He has refused to say what police asked or how he knew Christian B.

The husband said: “We’ve decided not to talk. The police have been in touch and we’ve spoken to them. I spoke to Interpol last year.

“I’m speaking on behalf of my ex too. We don’t want to be involved.”

the article also says..

Then Christian went off the radar the day after the abduction. Both his exes became more suspicious when he didn’t return to the area for around three years.


So according to the article he went off the radar the day after the abduction...someone seems to remember those days well. looks like my theory could be spot on

[Vertigo Swirl]

The difficulty is determining what is reported and what has actually been said. Lying doesn't enter into it - IMO.

Wolters has been videoed discussing the phone call putting CB in close proximity to the OC, have you not been following these developments that closely?

[jassi]

Wolters has been videoed discussing the phone call putting CB in close proximity to the OC, have you not been following these developments that closely?

No. Have yiu got a link to that in English ?

He also says that Breckner killed Madeleine but hasn't proved it to be true.

[barrier]

Sorry.  Just answering ridiculous questions.

You make it sound such a chore being a seneschal.

[barrier]

Circumstantial Evidence is acceptable in a Court of Law.  And if it wasn't him then he can always say who it was who had his phone if it wasn't him.

It may well be,but any prosecution ( highly unlikely) will have to prove it was him on the dog and bone, interestingly or not there is nothing on the OG web pertaining to it now.

[Wonderfulspam]

the article also says..

Then Christian went off the radar the day after the abduction. Both his exes became more suspicious when he didn’t return to the area for around three years.


So according to the article he went off the radar the day after the abduction...someone seems to remember those days well. looks like my theory could be spot on

What abduction?

[Vertigo Swirl]

No. Have yiu got a link to that in English ?

He also says that Breckner killed Madeleine but hasn't proved it to be true.

It was in thr 60 Minutes documentary, I’m sure you will be able to find it if you’re really interested (which I doubt).

[Vertigo Swirl]

What abduction?

The abduction two police forces are investigating.

[Robittybob1]

I thought it had been established that the phone was his?  I thought your argument was that the prosecution would have to prove he hadn't lent it to a friend that night (or some other tall story his lawyers might cook up).

They can do that if the person being called admits (sworn statement) to getting a call that time from Christian B and it was Christian B they spoke to.

[G-Unit]

the article also says..

Then Christian went off the radar the day after the abduction. Both his exes became more suspicious when he didn’t return to the area for around three years.


So according to the article he went off the radar the day after the abduction...someone seems to remember those days well. looks like my theory could be spot on

If you want to believe what The Sun says that's your prerogative, but I prefer facts.