Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[barrier]

Brueckner received the call.

Bold statement,cite for that please.

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[Brietta]

Bold statement,cite for that please.

A Polícia Federal Alemã pediu à PJ que investigasse Brueckner e descobriram que ele pegou um telefone enquanto ele estava na Praia da Luz, pouco antes do jovem desaparecer.
The German Federal Police asked the PJ to investigate Brueckner and found that he picked up a phone while he was in Praia da Luz, just before the young girl disappeared.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=558056180990876&story_fbid=2749212878541851

[Robittybob1]

A Polícia Federal Alemã pediu à PJ que investigasse Brueckner e descobriram que ele pegou um telefone enquanto ele estava na Praia da Luz, pouco antes do jovem desaparecer.
The German Federal Police asked the PJ to investigate Brueckner and found that he picked up a phone while he was in Praia da Luz, just before the young girl disappeared.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=558056180990876&story_fbid=2749212878541851

Where it says "he picked up a phone" to me just says he used a phone. It is a translation issue to me: Picked up a call or picked up a phone to make a call.

[Mr Gray]

If you want to believe what The Sun says that's your prerogative, but I prefer facts.

First I don't take everything the sun says as true and I'm sure you understand that probably no one on this forum does. I've been trained to look at and assess evidence.

Everything I read and hear about the case is evidence...even the Sun's articles are evidence. The art is knowing how to sort the wheat from the chaffe and its not an exact science.

What I aim to do is look at every piece of evidence and judge how reliable it seems.

This article in the sun is quite interesting as the statements arent the simple...he told me he did it...but something diiferent and not the sort of thing...imo ...someone would invent...but who knows .

So how valuable are these statements..at this stage we don't know, but if statemnts have been taken from these ladies and they have said what's reported then that would be highly, highly significant. Perhaps they have and perhaps they both appear to be good witnesses...we dont know. Your reaction is simply to discard them as unreliable...that is not  a fact so to claim you only deal in facts is untrue.

Whats interesting to me is that they supprt my idea that HCW is building  a strong circumstantial case and if these ladies are prepared to go into court and repeat these allegations that would be very very significant. We dont know if that will happen...but I think we will know soon.

[Brietta]

Where it says "he picked up a phone" to me just says he used a phone. It is a translation issue to me: Picked up a call or picked up a phone to make a call.

Detectives também estão tentando encontrar a pessoa que ligou para ele uma hora antes de Madeleine desaparecer, pouco antes de seu quarto aniversário.
A polícia diz que Brueckner recebeu a ligação perto do apartamento dos McCann no complexo Ocean Club.
Detectives are also trying to find the person who called him an hour before Madeleine disappeared, just before his fourth birthday.
Police say Brueckner got the call near the McCanns' apartment at the Ocean Club complex.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=558056180990876&story_fbid=2749212878541851



I think Google translate is good enough to get the gist of things when it doesn't really matter too much eg for our purposes as a discussion forum.  I think it is pretty clear that what is being said largely mirrors the reports from some media at the time which stated in effect that someone phoned Brueckner's cell phone and it was (picked up) or answered according to Luz phone masts the nearest of which was in the environs of the holiday complex where Madeleine was sleeping.

[Eleanor]

The question of this Phone Call could be easily solved.  Either Brueckner admits that he was in possession of the phone at the time, possibly about his innocent business.  Or he tells The Police who did have the phone.

A refusal to do either of these things will only ramp up suspicion and add to the Circumstantial Evidence.

[jassi]

The question of this Phone Call could be easily solved.  Either Brueckner admits that he was in possession of the phone at the time, possibly about his innocent business.  Or he tells The Police who did have the phone.

A refusal to do either of these things will only ramp up suspicion and add to the Circumstantial Evidence.

Perhaps if the police asked, he might give an answer.

[barrier]

CB doesn't have to satisfy the suspicious on this forum or for any other in fact.

[Brietta]

CB doesn't have to satisfy the suspicious on this forum or for any other in fact.

Agreed.
The problem facing him will be answering the suspicions of the police of three nations.  All of whom have adopted him as their prime suspect.

[Mr Gray]

CB doesn't have to satisfy the suspicious on this forum or for any other in fact.

of course he doesn't...only the mcCnanns have to that....LOL..its  adiscussion forum

[Eleanor]

Agreed.
The problem facing him will be answering the suspicions of the police of three nations.  All of whom have adopted him as their prime suspect.

Will he care if he is convicted of something he didn't do, by refusing to answer questions.  The solution is in his own hands.

[jassi]

Will he care if he is convicted of something he didn't do, by refusing to answer questions.  The solution is in his own hands.

As I understand it, he hasn't been asked any questions.

[barrier]

As I understand it, he hasn't been asked any questions.

Yep,way ahead of the curve.

[Mr Gray]

As I understand it, he hasn't been asked any questions.

I'm sure when Wolters us ready he will be. His lawyer has already said he won't answer any and his previous lawyers ditched him in June