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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1815 on: October 22, 2020, 11:44:47 PM »
That which is not a statement of fact backed up with a cite is an opinion. 

I suggest you reread your posts.  In this instance the last two sentence of your post starting "Those thousands of ..." and ending with " ... of story." might benefit from your scrutiny.

Do you mean " They had conditions. End of story."?
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Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1816 on: October 23, 2020, 09:17:46 AM »
Do you mean " They had conditions. End of story."?

Seems everything they did had to be done there way....even the abduction IMO.

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1817 on: October 23, 2020, 09:23:44 AM »
Looks like the tide could be turning against CB not being involved after all.


Scotland Yard detectives say there is “no evidence” linking the German drifter to the crime 13 years ago.


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-told-not-22891712

Offline jassi

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1818 on: October 23, 2020, 09:35:11 AM »
Looks like the tide could be turning against CB not being involved after all.


Scotland Yard detectives say there is “no evidence” linking the German drifter to the crime 13 years ago.


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-told-not-22891712

I see the 'family pal' is back with his twopenneth . ?{)(**
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline The General

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1819 on: October 23, 2020, 09:35:47 AM »
Looks like the tide could be turning against CB not being involved after all.

Scotland Yard detectives say there is “no evidence” linking the German drifter to the crime 13 years ago.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-told-not-22891712
Yeh, but mate, it's the Daily Star, which is probably half a notch above that other rag, The s..m.
Plus I note all of the quotes are 'a family pal', or 'a source close to', or 'a man outside the bookies'; which is all code for 'we made this sh** up'.
Having said that.....£48 per person for CB being charged. Not to be sniffed at.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1820 on: October 23, 2020, 10:21:34 AM »
Are Lie Detector Tests acceptable in American Courts of Law?

In some jurisdictions they are in the USA. Not in Canada though.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1821 on: October 23, 2020, 11:32:22 AM »
In some jurisdictions they are in the USA. Not in Canada though.

I have just read somewhere, "but only on agreement with both parties, in The US.

Offline The General

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1822 on: October 23, 2020, 12:02:07 PM »
I have just read somewhere, "but only on agreement with both parties, in The US.
Some people are arrogant enough to think they can defeat the machine.
Chris Watts had a pop at it and the polygraph technician had to pack it all in half way through as the only questions he didn't fail were the control questions.
Actually, in that case, the polygraph worked in law enforcement's favour, as he failed so badly that he ended up coming clean under the pressure.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1823 on: October 23, 2020, 12:23:30 PM »
Some people are arrogant enough to think they can defeat the machine.
Chris Watts had a pop at it and the polygraph technician had to pack it all in half way through as the only questions he didn't fail were the control questions.
Actually, in that case, the polygraph worked in law enforcement's favour, as he failed so badly that he ended up coming clean under the pressure.

I think Adrian Prout confessed after failing a test also.
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Offline The General

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1824 on: October 23, 2020, 12:28:32 PM »
I think Adrian Prout confessed after failing a test also.
Exactly. If it's permitted in that jurisdiction, then use it if all agree. It may be useless when it gets to court, but it's another string to the prosecutorial bow.
The polygraph has been tested since the 20's and it's deemed to be pretty accurate with the latest iterations, with the prevailing opinion being 'better than not having it'.
The problem has always been, in the US, that it was criminally, routinely abused by law enforcement, which tarnished any value it may have held.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1825 on: October 23, 2020, 12:36:02 PM »
All this deflection into polygraphs is really really interesting.

But with a nod to the thread topic who is going to start the ball rolling by coming up with just one teensy weensy post giving details of evidence against the McCanns.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Online Wonderfulspam

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1826 on: October 23, 2020, 12:41:56 PM »
All this deflection into polygraphs is really really interesting.

But with a nod to the thread topic who is going to start the ball rolling by coming up with just one teensy weensy post giving details of evidence against the McCanns.

Martin Smiths witness statement.

That's evidence against the McCanns.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1827 on: October 23, 2020, 12:53:18 PM »
Exactly. If it's permitted in that jurisdiction, then use it if all agree. It may be useless when it gets to court, but it's another string to the prosecutorial bow.
The polygraph has been tested since the 20's and it's deemed to be pretty accurate with the latest iterations, with the prevailing opinion being 'better than not having it'.
The problem has always been, in the US, that it was criminally, routinely abused by law enforcement, which tarnished any value it may have held.

It has not been established that the McCanns offered to take a polygraph

It has been established it would not have proved their innocence

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1828 on: October 23, 2020, 01:49:45 PM »
Martin Smiths witness statement.

That's evidence against the McCanns.

You're welcome.
It's about as reliable as evidence against CB provided by his erstwhile friends and associates.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1829 on: October 23, 2020, 01:55:18 PM »
It's about as reliable as evidence against CB provided by his erstwhile friends and associates.

That is, in my opinion, a ludicrous statement.
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