Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[Mr Gray]

Were the children put on the ‘at risk ‘ register ? Do we know?

Ive just noticed your new avatar....I said the same some years ago...good to see you've caught on. Being called  a fool by the village idiot is no insult.

[G-Unit]

What excuses the torture and rape of the American woman in her own home as we contemplate the scenario that the victim ~ not the perpetrator ~ is at fault for the crime.

The primary victim in the McCann case was Madeleine, who was to blame for nothing. It wasn't her job to protect herself.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The primary victim in the McCann case was Madeleine, who was to blame for nothing. It wasn't her job to protect herself.

Who here has suggested otherwise?

[Mr Gray]

The primary victim in the McCann case was Madeleine, who was to blame for nothing. It wasn't her job to protect herself.

Her family are also victims...it may well be if the portuguese judicial system and police had done their job properly she would never have been abducted.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Ive just noticed your new avatar....I said the same some years ago...good to see you've caught on. Being called  a fool by the village idiot is no insult.

Is there an avatar fire sale going on somewhere?  Some people seem to have a new one every week. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Her family are also victims...it may well be if the portuguese judicial system and police had done their job properly she would never have been abducted.

Fear not.

She wasn't, in my opinion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Fear not.

She wasn't, in my opinion.

Please provide a cite.

[Lace]

Were the children put on the ‘at risk ‘ register ? Do we know?

You will have to ask Social Services.   People were hoping the twins would be taken away,  they weren't.

[Lace]

I don't see why not.
If parents were more responsible there wouldn't be any abductions.

So you expect a paedophile to take a child if its left in bed asleep do you?   That is normal is it?

[John]

What could it mean?

For The Germans to share this at the moment would be a very silly thing to do.

The police are obliged to inform the parents of any missing child if they have found anything of significance. The only situation where this doesn't happen is if the police are convinced that they (parents) know the truth already.

[jassi]

The police are obliged to inform the parents of any missing child if they have found anything of significance. The only situation where this doesn't happen is if the police are convinced that they (parents) know the truth already.

Does this apply in Germany?

[Lace]

The primary victim in the McCann case was Madeleine, who was to blame for nothing. It wasn't her job to protect herself.

Here we go again.   The McCann's thought they would do their own listening services,  apparently the nannies couldn't do it on this holiday complex as it was too spaced out.   They did their own listening service and thought they were keeping their children safe,  they made a wrong decision Madeleine was taken.

Now I wouldn't have left my children alone and no doubt there are a lot who wouldn't either,  but I don't go on and on about it because it has been done and there's nothing the McCann's can do about it now,  they said they wish they could turn back the clock but they can't.  I wouldn't wish this on anyone,  they will have to carry that burden for the rest of their lives. 

It was supposed to have been a family friendly site,  the McCann's said it was very quiet,  maybe if they had read up on the place and realised there were many Paedophiles living around there they wouldn't have even gone there on holiday let alone have left the children alone.

[John]

Are you suggesting that Madeleine grazed her knee in the UK and then waited until she reached 5A to squash herself behind a sofa to bleed? That sounds likely (not).

I'm pretty sure you don't have any evidence that TS's grandfather lived in 5A.

I'm not an expert on the training and handling of those dogs, which is why, unlike some, I refrain from criticising the actions of those who are experts.

If I recall correctly, TS"s grandparents did live in 5a but I believe the grandfather died in hospital.

[Holly Goodhead]

From what we have heard the German police have the evidence of murder

Which begs the question why MET are still treating as a missing person inquiry.

[Holly Goodhead]

It's a nice thought, but highly unlikely IMO.  Where is Madeleine now?  How did she manage to make it to 17 without anyone noticing this altruistic couple suddenly had Madeleine McCann (the most famous missing child on the planet) living with them?

Lie low for a while by which time small children change significantly due to normal age related changes in development.