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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2745 on: November 09, 2020, 09:26:00 AM »
Is that IYO?  It isn't really a known fact, is it?
It's sarcasm.  Faithlilly has suggested that in order to avoid scrutiny by the UK authorities the McCanns lingered in Portugal, which is where as we all know they faced intense scrutiny not only by the PT authorities including the police, but also the world's media.  If the McCanns had returned to "face the music" in the UK earlier the self-same critics would be accusing the McCanns of running away from Portuguese police scrutiny.  Can you see the irony?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2746 on: November 09, 2020, 09:27:30 AM »
So these cadavers weren't fresh were they?   Any dog would find a decomposing body.    Could Eddie alert to cadaver scent after the body was in a place for a short length of time is the question.   I think not.

This is the thing you see.  All good stuff when there is a decomposing body lying around.  But any dog could find that, and often do.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2747 on: November 09, 2020, 09:28:14 AM »
What they have always tried to do was to make it sounds as though these children were abandoned and left alone without thought for hours on end when this was clearly not the case.

As you all know, I did something similar for brief periods and I never walked out of the door without making sure that everything was as safe as could be and that I was close by.  But then an abductor never even entered my mind.
Another supreme irony is that those who make out the children were abandoned are also the same ones who claim it was virtually impossible for an abductor to have done the deed because of the regular comings and goings of the parents to check on the kids.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2748 on: November 09, 2020, 09:28:44 AM »
Perhaps you'll believe Mark Harrison, who wrote on 23/07/2007;

An EVRD dog received additional training on human cadavers which were buried on land and submerged underwater. This took place in America and facilitated by the FBI at the University of Tennessee.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

Or was he telling lies too, in your opinion?

Eddie was not specifically identified by Harrison.  Nor is it claimed Eddie was taken to America it merely says the training took place in America.  I cannot find a claim anywhere for Eddie in America ~ can you/

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The dog handler that deployed the victim recovery dogs, Martin Grime, is a world-wide
renowned expert in the field of cadaver dogs. He and his first cadaver dog Eddie and his blood
detection dog Keela were deployed to Portugal by the British Government when Madeline
McCann disappeared. You can presently see Mr. Grime on the Netflix show, “What happened
to Madeline” as he uses them to help investigate the case.
Mr. Grime was hired by the FBI to come to America and help them establish a cadaver
dog program. Mr. Grime brought his two dogs, Morse the cadaver dog, and Keela the blood
detection dog, to the Castillo home seventeen days after her body was located. Morse alerted to
the basement bathroom where Mrs. Castillo was found, and also to the foot of her bed in the
master bedroom. https://www.loudoun.gov/DocumentCenter/View/152001/06202019---Virginia-Court-of-Appeals-Affirmed-the-Convictions-Against-Braulio-Castillo?bidId=
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2749 on: November 09, 2020, 09:29:15 AM »
It's sarcasm.  Faithlilly has suggested that in order to avoid scrutiny by the UK authorities the McCanns lingered in Portugal, which is where as we all know they faced intense scrutiny not only by the PT authorities including the police, but also the world's media.  If the McCanns had returned to "face the music" in the UK earlier the self-same critics would be accusing the McCanns of running away from Portuguese police scrutiny.  Can you see the irony?

When The McCanns finally left they were accused of running away.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2750 on: November 09, 2020, 09:29:23 AM »
So these cadavers weren't fresh were they?   Any dog would find a decomposing body.    Could Eddie alert to cadaver scent after the body was in a place for a short length of time is the question.   I think not.
And a body that had only been dead for a few minutes months earlier?  Let's see the evidence that Eddie had been trained on that.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2751 on: November 09, 2020, 09:30:39 AM »
When The McCanns finally left they were accused of running away.
Exactly - and by the same mindset of those who accused them of not returning to England sooner for fear of social services involvement. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2752 on: November 09, 2020, 09:33:14 AM »
Another supreme irony is that those who make out the children were abandoned are also the same ones who claim it was virtually impossible for an abductor to have done the deed because of the regular comings and goings of the parents to check on the kids.

A complete lack of Logic.  Or just spite.  Either will do.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2753 on: November 09, 2020, 09:33:33 AM »
I have a friend who is a social worker and in her experience she doubts that the McCanns behaviour would just be brushed off as some here think it would without some kind of action being taken.

I wonder if the parents stayed in Portugal precisely to escape the type of attention from social services they knew would meet them on their return home ?

They certainly discussed the subject in their first contact with lawyers, eight days after Madeleine disappeared, so it was on their minds. Kate's mother was horrified;

'Why did they think it was OK to do this?' asked Susan Healy, 62.

She revealed that her first words to the couple in the frantic phone call informing her of Madeleine's disappearance were: 'Where were you?'
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/where-were-you-that-night-kate-what-grandmother-said-after-she-was-told-that-madeleine-had-been-6661215.html
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2754 on: November 09, 2020, 09:34:54 AM »
They certainly discussed the subject in their first contact with lawyers, eight days after Madeleine disappeared, so it was on their minds. Kate's mother was horrified;

'Why did they think it was OK to do this?' asked Susan Healy, 62.

She revealed that her first words to the couple in the frantic phone call informing her of Madeleine's disappearance were: 'Where were you?'
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/where-were-you-that-night-kate-what-grandmother-said-after-she-was-told-that-madeleine-had-been-6661215.html
Any excuse to dredge up old Ma Healey's quote, eh?  Nothing more thrilling than using Kate's own mother to put the boot in I'm sure.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2755 on: November 09, 2020, 09:36:39 AM »
A complete lack of Logic.  Or just spite.  Either will do.
I think a combination of both.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2756 on: November 09, 2020, 09:46:01 AM »
Any excuse to dredge up old Ma Healey's quote, eh?  Nothing more thrilling than using Kate's own mother to put the boot in I'm sure.

Kate's mother won't have had the full facts of what The McCanns did, where they were or of them checking on the children regularly.  It was hardly the time to go into that.

But Yes, let's drag her out again and her shock motivated remark.  "Where were you" should tell us all that Mrs. Healy didn't know the circumstances at that point.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2757 on: November 09, 2020, 09:54:15 AM »
A complete lack of Logic.  Or just spite.  Either will do.

Spite.

I like spite.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2758 on: November 09, 2020, 10:03:13 AM »
So these cadavers weren't fresh were they?   Any dog would find a decomposing body.    Could Eddie alert to cadaver scent after the body was in a place for a short length of time is the question.   I think not.
I'd say, think again.
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Offline Eleanor