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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2775 on: November 09, 2020, 12:22:32 PM »
Someone said her initial reaction was because she didn't know all the circumstances at the time. In 2008 she knew all the circumstances, but was willing to repeat what she had thought and to add;

she said she could understand public anger at the couple for going to dinner while their children slept unattended in an unlocked apartment more than 50 yards away.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1017189/Where-night-Kate-What-grandmother-said-told-Madeleine-snatched.html

If you read on you will come across
"Social services did visit the McCanns' home in Rothley, Leicestershire, and said they were satisfied with the couple's childcare arrangements."https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1017189/Where-night-Kate-What-grandmother-said-told-Madeleine-snatched.html

Please bear it in mind for future reference.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2776 on: November 09, 2020, 12:24:37 PM »
You tend to cherry pick your quotes a tad I think.  It goes on to say ...

The lawyers then talked to us about applying for an order to make Madeleine a ward of court.
Wardship status gives the courts certain statutory powers to act on a child’s behalf in any legal disputes and to bypass some of the data-protection laws that deal with access to information (hotel guest records, for example, and airline passenger lists), when knowledge of this information is considered to be in the interests of the child in question.

Such an order could be useful in acquiring records not otherwise available to us that might be relevant in
our case. We decided to proceed with an application, which was granted in due course.  madeleine ... Kate McCann


The lawyers in question were from a firm of specialists in family law, the International Family Law Group (IFLG) whose visit to Portugal was as the result of an offer to help.
Do you think taking advice which was aimed at securing Madeleine's best interests is worth a pejorative mention?  I've got to admit your attitude puzzles me.

Now, as I was saying ~ offers of help (also detailed in madeleine) included the appraisal of the horrible reality of the possibility that a paedophile was responsible for taking Madeleine.
You seem to be concentrating on Kate and Gerry who despite the extensive documentation available remain clear of anything approaching evidence against them (sceptic shibboleths just don't count) ignoring the other half of the equation in the thread title.
Don't you think it is time to lay off the McCanns and time instead to discuss Brueckner's inviolable rights.

You asked for a cite and I provided it.

As to Brueckner, I have not seen much in the way of evidence connecting him to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2777 on: November 09, 2020, 12:26:40 PM »
Someone said her initial reaction was because she didn't know all the circumstances at the time. In 2008 she knew all the circumstances, but was willing to repeat what she had thought and to add;

she said she could understand public anger at the couple for going to dinner while their children slept unattended in an unlocked apartment more than 50 yards away.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1017189/Where-night-Kate-What-grandmother-said-told-Madeleine-snatched.html

Not quite what you have been implying, is it.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2778 on: November 09, 2020, 12:34:42 PM »
Not quite what you have been implying, is it.

Implying? I'm declaring that Mrs Healy found it as disturbing as others did that the children were left home alone, and understood exactly why people were horrified.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2779 on: November 09, 2020, 12:46:03 PM »
Implying? I'm declaring that Mrs Healy found it as disturbing as others did that the children were left home alone, and understood exactly why people were horrified.
You'd have thought that "people" would have gotten over it by now.  I'm sure Mrs Healey has found it in her heart to forgive her daughter, why can't those who have sweet FA to do with her do the same?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2780 on: November 09, 2020, 12:49:53 PM »
If you read on you will come across
"Social services did visit the McCanns' home in Rothley, Leicestershire, and said they were satisfied with the couple's childcare arrangements."https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1017189/Where-night-Kate-What-grandmother-said-told-Madeleine-snatched.html

Please bear it in mind for future reference.

As far as I know Social Services made no public comment whatsoever on the subject, so I don't think they; "said they were satisfied with the couple's childcare arrangements." to the Daily Mail.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2781 on: November 09, 2020, 12:57:44 PM »
You'd have thought that "people" would have gotten over it by now.  I'm sure Mrs Healey has found it in her heart to forgive her daughter, why can't those who have sweet FA to do with her do the same?

Forgiveness has nothing to do with it.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2782 on: November 09, 2020, 01:07:22 PM »
Forgiveness has nothing to do with it.

"Don't do it again, Kate."  "No, no, I won't."   Anything else?  Or do you want sack cloth and ashes?

Sheesh, this is awful.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2783 on: November 09, 2020, 01:31:52 PM »
Forgiveness has nothing to do with it.
what's it got to do with then, the continual need to harp on about the McCanns "neglect" 13 plus years after the event?  do explain.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2784 on: November 09, 2020, 01:45:59 PM »
what's it got to do with then, the continual need to harp on about the McCanns "neglect" 13 plus years after the event?  do explain.

Surely you realise it's an integral part of the abduction theory? For a child to be abducted there has to be an opportunity for the abductor to abduct.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2785 on: November 09, 2020, 02:03:49 PM »
Surely you realise it's an integral part of the abduction theory? For a child to be abducted there has to be an opportunity for the abductor to abduct.

Even The Portuguese Judiciary didn't think there was any intent to neglect, which there obviously wasn't.

But since it would have taken all of two minutes to abduct this child, how often they checked doesn't actually come in to it.

And you don't appear to believe that Madeleine was abducted, so why keep on about it, 13 blimmin years later?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2786 on: November 09, 2020, 02:33:03 PM »
Surely you realise it's an integral part of the abduction theory? For a child to be abducted there has to be an opportunity for the abductor to abduct.
That has got absolutely NOTHING to do with my point but as you come to mention it - were the kids abandoned on the night of the 3rd or were there adults checking on them regularly making abduction according to yourself virtually impossible?  Which is it?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2787 on: November 09, 2020, 03:57:58 PM »
That has got absolutely NOTHING to do with my point but as you come to mention it - were the kids abandoned on the night of the 3rd or were there adults checking on them regularly making abduction according to yourself virtually impossible?  Which is it?

That, as they say, is the question. Just one of the questions that some people wonder about and others think should be forgotten.

The questions arose mostly from the accounts given by the T9, of course. It was them who claimed to have left all their children home alone for five nights and it was them who described the checking regime on 3rd May.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2788 on: November 09, 2020, 04:24:51 PM »
Someone said her initial reaction was because she didn't know all the circumstances at the time. In 2008 she knew all the circumstances, but was willing to repeat what she had thought and to add;

she said she could understand public anger at the couple for going to dinner while their children slept unattended in an unlocked apartment more than 50 yards away.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1017189/Where-night-Kate-What-grandmother-said-told-Madeleine-snatched.html

That’s pretty damning.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2789 on: November 09, 2020, 04:59:01 PM »
Someone said her initial reaction was because she didn't know all the circumstances at the time. In 2008 she knew all the circumstances, but was willing to repeat what she had thought and to add;

she said she could understand public anger at the couple for going to dinner while their children slept unattended in an unlocked apartment more than 50 yards away.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1017189/Where-night-Kate-What-grandmother-said-told-Madeleine-snatched.html
The keyword is "UNLOCKED" IMO.
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