Author Topic: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB  (Read 300355 times)

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Offline sadie

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2805 on: November 09, 2020, 11:35:39 PM »
Perhaps you'll believe Mark Harrison, who wrote on 23/07/2007;

An EVRD dog received additional training on human cadavers which were buried on land and submerged underwater. This took place in America and facilitated by the FBI at the University of Tennessee.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

Or was he telling lies too, in your opinion?

Once again there is NO REFERENCE to EDDIE in that report, nor is there any relevant date.  It is a general report about cadaver dogs in general, in the US.

Please STOP putting false info out purported to be about Eddie, when it is not.


Where is your honour Gunit?   
Just concede graciously and make sure that you adjust all your posts to correct you error.   An apology about my supposedly libelling Martin Grime would be welcomed too.


I believe that I am right in saying that Eddie was trained solely on dead piglets BEFORE Madeleine vanished


If you are able to find anything that proves me wrong, I will gladly concede …  But you won't find anything cos' it ain't there as far as I can see.


I am still waiting for a relevant cite, please Gunit



Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2807 on: November 10, 2020, 07:11:33 AM »
Once again there is NO REFERENCE to EDDIE in that report, nor is there any relevant date.  It is a general report about cadaver dogs in general, in the US.

Please STOP putting false info out purported to be about Eddie, when it is not.


Where is your honour Gunit?   
Just concede graciously and make sure that you adjust all your posts to correct you error.   An apology about my supposedly libelling Martin Grime would be welcomed too.


I believe that I am right in saying that Eddie was trained solely on dead piglets BEFORE Madeleine vanished


If you are able to find anything that proves me wrong, I will gladly concede …  But you won't find anything cos' it ain't there as far as I can see.


I am still waiting for a relevant cite, please Gunit

You are determined, imo, to ignore the facts. There was only one EVRD in the UK and that was Eddie. Two UK police officers testified that his skills were enhanced by visiting the US and training on actual dead bodies, but you refuse to believe them. I wonder if that's because the dog's findings don't fit with your (quite frankly fanciful imo) theory?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2808 on: November 10, 2020, 07:25:22 AM »
You are determined, imo, to ignore the facts. There was only one EVRD in the UK and that was Eddie. Two UK police officers testified that his skills were enhanced by visiting the US and training on actual dead bodies, but you refuse to believe them. I wonder if that's because the dog's findings don't fit with your (quite frankly fanciful imo) theory?

What findings by the dogs...they didn't find any evidence. They found absolutely nothing of any evidential value. You seem to cling on a belief that they somehow have some value

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2809 on: November 10, 2020, 07:57:28 AM »
What findings by the dogs...they didn't find any evidence. They found absolutely nothing of any evidential value. You seem to cling on a belief that they somehow have some value

So unless forensic evidence is found detectives just ignore alerts? I wonder.......
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2810 on: November 10, 2020, 07:59:09 AM »
So unless forensic evidence is found detectives just ignore alerts? I wonder.......
If they’re pursuing Christian Brukener, or indeed any other suspected abductor obviously the dog alerts have been ruled out.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2811 on: November 10, 2020, 08:03:09 AM »
So unless forensic evidence is found detectives just ignore alerts? I wonder.......

You wonder...that's about it.
As VS says CB is now the prime suspect which shows the investigators are happy to ignore the alerts

  Grime has never indicated the alerts are related to MM. In fact he said they could be due to several different scenarios
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2812 on: November 10, 2020, 09:53:02 AM »
You are determined, imo, to ignore the facts. There was only one EVRD in the UK and that was Eddie. Two UK police officers testified that his skills were enhanced by visiting the US and training on actual dead bodies, but you refuse to believe them. I wonder if that's because the dog's findings don't fit with your (quite frankly fanciful imo) theory?
There used to be a video of Martin Grimes training his dogs and he was using human tissues.   IMO Eddie had been trained using human cadaver odours.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2813 on: November 10, 2020, 10:09:22 AM »

All of the articles and quotes on this subject are ambiguous.  They say neither one thing or the other.

Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2814 on: November 10, 2020, 10:12:27 AM »
You are determined, imo, to ignore the facts. There was only one EVRD in the UK and that was Eddie. Two UK police officers testified that his skills were enhanced by visiting the US and training on actual dead bodies, but you refuse to believe them. I wonder if that's because the dog's findings don't fit with your (quite frankly fanciful imo) theory?

Can you retrain a cadaver dog?   Eddie was trained using dead pig,   then Grime suddenly wants him trained using human dead body.   Poor dog.  Eddie couldn't tell the difference which to me implies  the human body was so decomposed any dog would alert to it.   IMO

Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2815 on: November 10, 2020, 10:13:24 AM »
There used to be a video of Martin Grimes training his dogs and he was using human tissues.   IMO Eddie had been trained using human cadaver odours.

What human tissue blood?

Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2816 on: November 10, 2020, 10:16:50 AM »
In my case I talk about the children being left home alone because;

People who like to harp on about abduction want to ignore what made an abduction possible.
It contradicts the claim that the children were a priority.

Just a sec,  are you implying that if the McCann's knew it wasn't a child friendly site that actually paedophiles lived close by that a man had been entering apartments abusing children,  they would have left their children alone?  I think not.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2817 on: November 10, 2020, 10:40:53 AM »
What human tissue blood?
Find the video.  It used to be on YouTube.   I know he used his own blood.   He was human too you know.

https://youtu.be/en5zHpvG9m0?t=69 

"Send In The Dogs' Martin Grime's CADAVER and BLOOD dogs"

Talks about Keela later in the video > https://youtu.be/en5zHpvG9m0?t=214  Start around there.
His blood > https://youtu.be/en5zHpvG9m0?t=295
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2818 on: November 10, 2020, 10:54:42 AM »
Just a sec,  are you implying that if the McCann's knew it wasn't a child friendly site that actually paedophiles lived close by that a man had been entering apartments abusing children,  they would have left their children alone?  I think not.

I think they might have had second thoughts about taking their children there at all.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2819 on: November 10, 2020, 11:09:37 AM »
Just a sec,  are you implying that if the McCann's knew it wasn't a child friendly site that actually paedophiles lived close by that a man had been entering apartments abusing children,  they would have left their children alone?  I think not.

No. I'm saying that parents who put their children first don't leave them home alone no matter where they are. That's because they don't want their children to cry, be sick or unwell without being comforted and reassured.
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