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Offline Truth SKR1

Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« on: January 17, 2021, 03:56:43 PM »
Hello, it's my first post, I've been aware of the case for a while, but the documentary "WHF The New Evidence" got me looking into it further. I spent time investigating the claims made as the programme was unbalanced in seemingly assuming a miscarriage of justice. I was disappointed to find none of the evidence was new and most of the claims were easily batted away and discredited almost a decade ago. I was dismayed to find that in a YouTube search of "Jeremy Bamber" almost all the videos are alleging a miscarriage of justice and I feel this is an imbalance that should be addressed or those interested in the case will be easily lead to the misplaced assumption of a MOJ. My idea would be a short YouTube video with white text on a black background affirming 15-20 memorable statements/evidences which point to his guilt. I have seen lists on here with proofs of Sheila's innocence. So I would like help to formulate these 15-20 short and punchy statements which would stay on screen for about 10 seconds before going to the next one. They would be one longer sentence or two short sentences in length to keep them memorable. Maybe the sources of information could be included in the first comment. This would be perhaps accompanied by some downbeat, maybe slightly sinister, ambient music, maybe by Eno or the like. I tried writing a couple but they don't sound right and I'd appreciate the help and input of some more experienced case boffins. Thanks for listening  8)--))
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Offline Myster

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2021, 05:27:52 AM »
Hello, it's my first post, I've been aware of the case for a while, but the documentary "WHF The New Evidence" got me looking into it further. I spent time investigating the claims made as the programme was unbalanced in seemingly assuming a miscarriage of justice. I was disappointed to find none of the evidence was new and most of the claims were easily batted away and discredited almost a decade ago. I was dismayed to find that in a YouTube search of "Jeremy Bamber" almost all the videos are alleging a miscarriage of justice and I feel this is an imbalance that should be addressed or those interested in the case will be easily lead to the misplaced assumption of a MOJ. My idea would be a short YouTube video with white text on a black background affirming 15-20 memorable statements/evidences which point to his guilt. I have seen lists on here with proofs of Sheila's innocence. So I would like help to formulate these 15-20 short and punchy statements which would stay on screen for about 10 seconds before going to the next one. They would be one longer sentence or two short sentences in length to keep them memorable. Maybe the sources of information could be included in the first comment. This would be perhaps accompanied by some downbeat, maybe slightly sinister, ambient music, maybe by Eno or the like. I tried writing a couple but they don't sound right and I'd appreciate the help and input of some more experienced case boffins. Thanks for listening  8)--))
If you really think one is necessary, have video editing skills and a YouTube account, then go for it.  But I would omit any music as it tends to distract rather than reinforce what you're trying to get across.  All the information the public needs is available here though, and one or two other podcaster/blog sites have linked back to this one anyway.

It can't be any worse than this feeble effort which is almost begging for money...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGSB5abtq34

Or this ludicrously inept display of women's ability to multi-task...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbRkgSR_mjI
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2021, 07:57:04 AM »
Thanks, Myster. I do see so much information and sources on all the threads from years of discussions and I've no doubt all that's required is there. What I need is help selecting the right proofs and evidences and summarising it. I do have a YouTube account and if it is kept basic (white text on black background throughout not rolling like subtitles but static in the middle of the screen) I would do it myself otherwise I would just pay someone. I agree about music, it's ambient, inoffensive music or nothing. It is the formulation of the short statements affirming guilt that needs the work. Also, I would need to briefly summarise the circumstances of the case in 3 sentences or so right at the start. I really do think there's a need for something brief and incisive to counteract the smoke and mirrors against the police and wider family everywhere else on YouTube. If you think you or anyone else can help in suggesting any short statements and evidences I'd be grateful Thanks for your reply and suggestions I've taken them on board.b 8**8:/: 8((()*/

Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2021, 11:22:13 AM »
Ok I'll make a start. Statement 1)

In 1985 Nevill and June Bamber, their daughter Sheila Caffell, and her twin sons Nicholas and Daniel were found dead, shot 25 times at their farmhouse in Essex. The gun used in the crimes was found lying on Sheila's body.
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Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2021, 11:23:58 AM »
Statement 2)

Police were alerted to the crime scene by a phone call to the local police office by Nevill and June's son Jeremy at 3.26am from his cottage 3 miles away, who said he'd taken a phone call from his fathe at 3.10am stating "Please come over, Sheila has gone crazy, she has the gun". It was testified and corroborated by multiple witnesses that Jeremy telephoned his girlfriend Julie before 3.15am.
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Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2021, 11:25:09 AM »
Statement 3)

Jeremy was asked to meet police at the farm, he was driving slowly when passed by a police car on the way to the scene. Outside the farmhouse Jeremy stated his sister had used all the guns in the house and was familiar with them. Later under police interview he admitted this information was false.

Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2021, 11:27:54 AM »
Statement 5)

Police entered the property with an assembled Firearms unit almost 4 hours after arriving. The senior officer in charge accepted Jeremy's information, and after a brief check of the crime scene, he initially concluded Sheila had killed the family before shooting herself dead twice in the throat.
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Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2021, 11:29:59 AM »
Statement 6)

Jeremy was asked by police and subsequently wrote and signed a handwritten statement authorising police to destroy carpets and other crime scene materials.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 04:26:11 PM by Truth SKR1 »

Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2021, 11:32:28 AM »
Any other demonstrably false statements made by Bamber at the crime scene? I don't think it's worth mentioning the hearty breakfast or the Porsche. Anybody got any feedback?

Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2021, 11:36:01 AM »
Statement 4)

Police testimony indicates Jeremy called his sister a "nutter" and a "psychopath" outside the crime scene, hours before police entered the property to the scene of carnage.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 12:03:27 PM by Truth SKR1 »

Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2021, 12:13:11 PM »
So that's about the first minute of the video, with six statements staying on screen for 10 seconds. Have covered the bare facts of the murders, the alleged and actual phone calls, Bamber's descriptions of his sister at the crime scene, and his direction to destroy crime scene materials. Probably need more attacking the phone call alibi, before moving onto the non existent crime scene evidence against Sheila, the silencer. Then Jeremy's actions after the murders. Holidays, high living, lust for money, ignoring his family etc. Then Julie's testimony of pre and post crime behaviours and any other circumstantial evidence.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 12:17:24 PM by Truth SKR1 »

Offline Caroline

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2021, 01:49:06 PM »
Statement 6)

Jeremy wrote a handwritten statement and signed it authorising police to destroy carpets and other crime scene materials.

I believe he was 'asked' to write it by Stan Jones.

Offline Caroline

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2021, 01:52:51 PM »
Statement 2)

Police were alerted to the crime scene by a phone call to the local police office by Nevill and June's son Jeremy at 3.26am from his cottage 3 miles away, who said he'd just taken a phone call from his father stating "Please come over, Sheila has gone crazy, she has the gun". It was testified and corroborated by multiple witnesses that Jeremy telephoned his girlfriend Julie before 3.15am.

It might be important to relay that Bamber said he received the call from Nevill at 03:10 because the timeline is important.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2021, 02:38:15 PM »
So that's about the first minute of the video, with six statements staying on screen for 10 seconds. Have covered the bare facts of the murders, the alleged and actual phone calls, Bamber's descriptions of his sister at the crime scene, and his direction to destroy crime scene materials. Probably need more attacking the phone call alibi, before moving onto the non existent crime scene evidence against Sheila, the silencer. Then Jeremy's actions after the murders. Holidays, high living, lust for money, ignoring his family etc. Then Julie's testimony of pre and post crime behaviours and any other circumstantial evidence.

What about Bamber’s sketch ?

If you look carefully on the plan which Jeremy drew out for the police on the morning of the murders you will see the word "RIFLES" and two marks shown just above the word scullery.




There are other threads of discussion on the contents of this

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=633.msg19593#msg19593
« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 02:42:41 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2021, 02:56:51 PM »
Statement 4)

Police testimony indicates Jeremy called his sister a "nutter" and a "psychopath" outside the crime scene, hours before police entered the property to the scene of carnage.

Bamber appears to have a habit of attempting to project his character traits onto others and gaslight his victims (classic psychopathic behaviour)

He gaslit Julie & Sarah when he referred to her (Sarah - alleged 1984 drug/date rape victim) as ‘neurotic’ and has used numerous others terms

Including -

‘Sponging cranks’
‘[moderated]s’
‘Odious criminals’
&
‘Fetid vultures’ http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=229.msg3104#msg3104

to name but a few...
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation