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Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2021, 12:19:11 PM »
However, it would place him on the psychopathic spectrum.

What an unsourced claim about what an unnamed person said? I'm not so sure.

Offline APRIL

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2021, 12:32:18 PM »
However, it would place him on the psychopathic spectrum.

What an unsourced claim about what an unnamed person said? I'm not so sure.


Mmm. Probably best to stay away from psych evaluation/assessment, then. Opinion seems divided.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2021, 12:39:47 PM »
A page from a book? If it's written by a medical specialist diagnosing Bamber as a psychopath after meeting with him etc, then maybe.

What was the name of the ‘medical specialist’ who assessed Bamber pre trial?
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Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2021, 12:48:18 PM »
What was the name of the ‘medical specialist’ who assessed Bamber pre trial?


I don't know. I've looked for that before and not found out.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2021, 12:50:45 PM »


I just used "nutter" because it's a horrible smear and indicative of his hatred, and "psychopath" because it's a huge lie. His use of "depressive" is more subjective and could be claimed.

Julie also apparently stated during Bamber’s murder trial ‘he had made the reference that his "old" father, "mad" mother and sister had "nothing to live for".
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Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2021, 12:55:38 PM »
And even the twins too. Beyond despicable! No conscience or empathy ever shown up to now.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2021, 01:04:39 PM »
And even the twins too. Beyond despicable! No conscience or empathy ever shown up to now.

Yes posted a para here http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11442.msg638853#msg638853

‘...and in respect of the way the twins had been brought up, … they were emotionally disturbed and unbalanced”.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2021, 01:09:35 PM »
Thanks for the video will watch that later. Wilkes writes about a comment from a defence team expert saying he had some "traits" of a psychopath. If it's that we can't stretch that to a diagnosis. Wilkes book is also unsourced.

Bamber claims he is not a psychopath and 27 psychologists have confirmed this allegedly

What about a photo of Bamber following his arrest - where he’s smirking for the cameras accompanied with something like:

‘I am not a psychopath’

But that’s for you to decide 

or 

Isn’t he?

There’s footage here at approx 35.00 of his arrest https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTvqLk0MWU&feature=youtu.be
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2021, 01:26:19 PM »
Thanks for the video will watch that later. Wilkes writes about a comment from a defence team expert saying he had some "traits" of a psychopath. If it's that we can't stretch that to a diagnosis. Wilkes book is also unsourced.

How about Giovanni Di Stefano confirming Bamber to be a psychopath

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTvqLk0MWU&feature=youtu.be

Approx 42.30  8((()*/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2021, 01:44:22 PM »
And even the twins too. Beyond despicable! No conscience or empathy ever shown up to now.

None whatsoever - his hatred is as clear now as it was when he murdered
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Offline Truth SKR1

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2021, 02:14:56 PM »
I'm not accepting that "diagnosis" from Di Stefano. He fraudulently claimed to be a lawyer his legal and medical opinion holds no weight. Prefer to focus specifically on his behaviours and actions.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2021, 02:21:10 PM »
I'm not accepting that "diagnosis" from Di Stefano. He fraudulently claimed to be a lawyer his legal and medical opinion holds no weight. Prefer to focus specifically on his behaviours and actions.

 8((()*/


Di Stefano:
I want to make one thing really clear – I am not guilty of what I was convicted.
“The conviction was obtained by fraud itself and I will prove it.”

(2019)
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2021, 03:36:49 PM »
I'm not accepting that "diagnosis" from Di Stefano. He fraudulently claimed to be a lawyer his legal and medical opinion holds no weight. Prefer to focus specifically on his behaviours and actions.

Bamber is the epitome of a coercive controller


Deep Diving Coercive Control

’Coercive control is about power and control and utter domination. It is a behavioural regime to exact control, that occurs over time.

It can be very subtle and nuanced.

Coercive control includes isolation, exploitation, intimidation and/or threats or actual physical harm. The behaviour is insidious and undermines the victim’s sense of self.

It is a form of hostage taking – an insidious ‘drip, drip, drip’. It can also include pseudo-caring behaviour. Oftentimes the perpetrators are charming. They may charm their way into the victim’s life and once controlled, upend them.

Isolation is a key tool of the abuser as they seek to monopolise perception. They lay down rules and regulations. The rules often change and do not apply to the abuser – only the victim. The rules are there to exact obedience.

The abuser becomes omnipotent. The abuse may be invisible to others. The abuser will have a supercharged sense of entitlement.

The abuser will slowly take the victim’s agency, autonomy and self-esteem. The patriarchy and structural inequalities further entraps the victim.

Controlling behaviour is: a range of acts designed to make a person subordinate and/or dependent by isolating them from sources of support, exploiting their resources and capacities for personal gain, depriving them of the means needed for independence, resistance and escape and regulating their everyday behaviour.

Coercive behaviour is: a continuing act or a pattern of acts of assault, threats, humiliation and intimidation or other abuse that is used to harm, punish, or frighten the victim.

The controlling behaviour can be subtle, nuanced, indirect and by proxy.

Psychological abuse and emotional abuse are subset tactics of coercive control.

Behaviour includes, but is not limited to, intimidation, harassment, stalking, damage to property and threats of physical abuse, sexual abuse, or psychological abuse, gaslighting, love bombing, fear inducing, inserting in relationships and taking over relationships.

What is Gaslighting?
Gaslighting involves reality distortion. It’s a tactic in which a person, in order to gain more power, makes a victim question their reality. Anyone is susceptible to gaslighting, and it is a common technique of abusers, dictators, narcissists and cult leaders.

It is done slowly, so the victim doesn’t realise how much they’ve been brainwashed. For example, in the movie Gaslight (1944), a man manipulates his wife, played by Ingrid Bergman, to the point where she thinks she is losing her mind when all along he has set her up. I see it in so many of my cases, along with love bombing. Oftentimes the victim does not see themselves as the victim.

In fact, a large number of victims do not self-identify as a victim. It is akin to brain washing and often when talking with victims we hear the perpetrator’s voice, rather than their own.

If you think you are a victim or if you believe someone else is here are some of the warning signs and information so that you can help them:

What Are the Signs of Gaslighting?

Charm can be used to disarm
Lying
Manipulation
Denying they said or did something when you have the evidence
Data mining your vulnerabilities and acting very interested in your life. They may trade a vulnerability about their life with you and ask you to share something. When you share a secret, they weaponize what you tell them and use it as ammunition against you.
They attack the things that you hold near and dear. They attack your very essence of being.
They flip the script when you challenge them and out you on the back foot. You end up feeling sorry for them or defending your behaviour.
They continually upend you
They claim victimhood when challenged
They project – whatever they are doing, they accuse you of doing
They say that you are crazy and tell others
Their insidious ‘drip, drip, drip’ behaviour wears you down over time
Their actions do not match what they tell you
They align people against you
They insert themselves in your relationships
They tell you those closest to you are bad or up to no good
They isolate you.

What is Love bombing?
Love bombing is an intense and constant stream of love communication, texts, emails, notes and gifts to sweep you off your feet and intoxicate you with love. It’s designed to make you fall in love.

It will not feel like bombardment, although it is. It will feel flattering. It will feel like the kind of romance we watch in movies – the attention to your every need, the sweet notes, the love declarations, the adoration, the flowers, the gifts.

He has assessed you and is mirroring exactly what you want to see and hear. It feels almost too good to be true – well, guess what, it is. It is all about control. The intention is to hook you in and make you fall in love. A whirlwind to get you under control.

Love bombing is a powerful aphrodisiac and tool in the abuser’s tool box. It gives you little time to think, it isolates you as they monopolise your every waking hour, it gives a false impression of who they are, and it moves the relationship along very quickly.

Before you know it, you are hooked. The message you receive is ‘he is really into you’ ‘we have an intense connection’ ‘we have known each other longer than you actually have.’ This is mind control and distorts the reality and before long, there will be pressure to move in together. Once he has you where he wants you, the behaviour will change.


By (Laura Richards)
https://www.laurarichards.co.uk/deep-diving-coercive-control/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2021, 04:02:59 PM »
I didn't bother reading the Lomax book. I read he bought Bamber's nonsense about the cremations being necessary because some Christians believe they shouldn't be buried after they've had a post mortem. If he's swallowing that he'll swallow anything. He also gives credence to the conversations with someone inside the farm hoax, hearing those two things I quickly concluded I wouldn't be reading any more of his piffle.

Yes Scott Lomax is a fraud

He’s had ample opportunity to make corrections to all the piffle he’s written on various cases over the years but chooses to let misinformation remain in the public domain
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?
« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2021, 04:55:51 PM »
There should be something about that. "For over 3 decades Bamber has perpetuated and promoted myths and lies particularly around Essex Police, his access to information, his wider family and his victims." I want the statements to be short and memorable.

Sounds like they will be  8((()*/
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