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Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #180 on: February 28, 2021, 02:34:50 PM »
The police had searched the house, had even put their fingers through the dog meat inside the bowl/s?

A knife was later handed into the family lawyer with claims that it had been in a bag 'underneath' the dog bowl stand. Mrs Mitchell putting forward the claim that, there was no missing knife (assuming the one from the pouch), that it had been there all the time in the packet of dog biscuits where she had hid it.

Evidence was heard in court disputing this, prosecution putting forward that the search team, in their expertise would not have missed this. If they took the time to search the meat in the bowl, would not have failed to look underneath? This knife (black handle) missing knife (brown handle)?

Thanks John

Corrine told a story about a bag of dog biscuits and another knife when she spoke to James English

Reminded me of Lynne Hall’s story during Hall’s murder trial and of her faux fur jacket  *&^^&


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Offline Paranoid Android

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2021, 04:40:02 PM »
The lack of any empathy/sympathy for the Jones family in this documentary - could that be because Dr Lean had claimed they were protecting someone?

Offline puglove

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2021, 04:56:12 PM »
The police had searched the house, had even put their fingers through the dog meat inside the bowl/s?

A knife was later handed into the family lawyer with claims that it had been in a bag 'underneath' the dog bowl stand. Mrs Mitchell putting forward the claim that, there was no missing knife (assuming the one from the pouch), that it had been there all the time in the packet of dog biscuits where she had hid it.

Evidence was heard in court disputing this, prosecution putting forward that the search team, in their expertise would not have missed this. If they took the time to search the meat in the bowl, would not have failed to look underneath? This knife (black handle) missing knife (brown handle)?

Jodi lost nearly all of her blood - was all of that blood at the crime scene? Were there any footprints in it? Did Luke's shoes disappear like his Parka apparently did?
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline Admin

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2021, 05:10:57 PM »
Jodi lost nearly all of her blood - was all of that blood at the crime scene? Were there any footprints in it? Did Luke's shoes disappear like his Parka apparently did?

I believe it rained that night and the crimescene was unprotected. Consequently, crucial forensic clues were lost.

Luke Mitchell was last seen messing about in the woods on the evening following the murder.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2021, 06:27:26 PM »
Jodi lost nearly all of her blood - was all of that blood at the crime scene? Were there any footprints in it? Did Luke's shoes disappear like his Parka apparently did?

Nope  and....eh....nope.
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Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #185 on: February 28, 2021, 06:31:12 PM »
I believe it rained that night and the crimescene was unprotected.

Must have been a hell of a lot of rain to wash away many litres of blood, leaving nothing but some droplets on the wall?

Found an article where Sallens says they believe Jodi was murdered at a different site and moved to the location where she was found. Interesting they never mentioned such a key point in the documentary.

"We think she was murdered elsewhere and dragged there"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9287769/Luke-Mitchell-jailed-killing-girlfriend-aged-14-claims-innocence-bars.html
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Offline Brietta

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #186 on: March 02, 2021, 01:31:17 PM »
The hard facts that prove Luke Mitchell murdered Jodi Jones in cold blood
Many - including senior police officers and Jodi’s family - are angry that the TV documentary failed to point out key facts.

ByJane Hamilton
04:30, 2 MAR 2021

A Channel 5 documentary which cast doubt on the conviction of Jodi Jones killer Luke Mitchell has thrown the 2003 murder back into the spotlight.

Luke Mitchell was convicted of killing his then-girlfriend, 14, in 2005 following a trial at the High Court in Edinburgh.

Yet in two-part series Murder in a Small Town, which aired on 24 and 25 February, Mitchell, now 32, insists he is innocent.

But many - including senior police officers and Jodi’s family - are angry that the TV documentary failed to point out key facts.

Four attempts to overturn Mitchell’s conviction have failed.

Police say they are satisfied with the outcome - and no other suspects have been identified.

Here, the Daily Record answers the then key questions often raised by those who think Luke Mitchell should be cleared.

And we explain the key evidence that convinced a jury - beyond all reasonable doubt - that Luke Mitchell killed Jodi Jones.

Why wasn’t Luke’s DNA on Jodi?
Luke’s DNA was actually found on her bra and her DNA was found on Luke’s trousers but in an agreement between the Crown and his defence team, led by Donald Findlay QC, it was decided the issue of DNA wasn’t relevant as the pair were in an intimate relationship. The Crown weren’t going to say DNA made him the killer as it was expected his DNA would be on Jodi. DNA in this case wouldn’t prove innocence or guilt.

What was Luke’s alibi and why didn’t the jury believe him?
Luke Mitchell’s alibi was that he was at home cooking dinner when Jodi died on June 30 2003.

But his brother Shane gave crucial evidence during the trial which cast doubt on this

Mitchell lived in Newbattle, Midlothian, with his mother Corinne and his older brother, Shane.

Luke’s mother, Corinne, gave evidence that when she returned home from work at 5.15pm that he was in the kitchen. In a statement to police on 7 July 2003 Luke’s brother Shane said he recalled seeing Luke in the kitchen “mashing tatties”.

But when Shane was questioned by police on 14 April 2004, Shane said he had been looking at porn on the internet in his bedroom and this is not something he would have done if there had been anyone else in the house at the time. This contradicted what Luke Mitchell and his mother told police.

Shane later admitted on the stand he had discussed his earlier statement with his mother before telling police Mitchell had been at home. He admitted that statement was not accurate. As the alibi was not held up in court Corinne was arrested for perjury but prosecutors made a decision not to proceed with the charges.

What about the witness who said she saw Luke and Jodi at the entrance to the path as she drove past then couldn’t pick him out in court?
Andrina Bryson’s evidence was considered an important element in the Crown’s case as she came forward independently to say she saw a male and a female at the Easthouses part of Roan’s Dyke at about 1650.

She described the male as wearing a khaki green, hip-length, fishing-style jacket. Its collar was up, and it had a pocket which was bulging. She picked out a photograph of Mitchell although could not identify him at court.

She was unable to identify the female whom she only saw from the back, but gave a description of someone with black, shoulder length hair, which seemed to be contained like a ponytail, wearing a navy blue jumper with a hood and a pair of lighter trousers, which she took to be a pair of jeans. Apart from the jeans, the description fitted Jodi. The appeal court judges said that while her identification evidence was open to challenge there were elements that provided the basis for a valid identification of Mitchell as the male she had seen and Jodi as the female.

They said her evidence did not stand alone - it fitted that Jodi had left to meet Mitchell and they were in their regular ‘rendezvous’ point when spotted. The timings, they said, also fit. The prosecution claimed that had Jodi left the house and proceeded directly to the path, the she would have been there at the time of this sighting, and asked the jury to accept that this was a sighting of Jodi and Mitchell.

Two other witnesses also identified Mitchell as the young man they had seen at the Newbattle end of the path around 50 minutes later.

What is the significance of the speaking clock phone call?
At 1654 Mitchell made a call to the speaking clock from his mobile. When asked by police why he had called the service when presumably if he was in his house as his alibi claimed there would be other ways to find out the time such as a clock on a wall he said he couldn’t answer why he made the call.

This piece of evidence backed up the prosecution case that he was on his way to meet Jodi at their prearranged time.

What was significant about Jodi’s body being discovered by Mitchell and the search party?
Mitchell discovered Jodi’s body, which was hidden behind a wall on the path, after claiming his dog led him to the scent. Family members with him said he appeared to know where the body was. They contradicted his evidence the dog had led them to the wall. He also showed no emotion at the horrifying find.

When he was later questioned he mentioned a distinctive hair clasp which was not readily visible on Jodi’s body and his description of her clothing implied he had seen her much later than just at school as he had claimed.

What about the missing knife?
At the time of the murder Mitchell owned a ‘skunting’ knife which has never been found despite an extensive search of his house. During a search of the family home many months later the pouch from the knife was found. Inscriptions on it read: “666” ‘[Name removed] 1989 – 2003” (Jodi’s birth and death).

And the missing jacket?
Luke was often seen wearing a distinctive parka style jacket and it was described by witnesses who saw him that night. When police searched his house the jacket had gone.

The prosecution sought to link this with evidence that a log burner in the back garden of Mitchell’s home had been used around 6.30pm and 7.30pm and later, at around 10pm that night with an unusual smell as reported by neighbours.

The prosecution inferred the jacket had been burned to destroy evidence. The court was also told Corinne had bought her son a new jacket identical to the one that had gone missing. The prosecution said on both counts Mitchell failed to provide any kind of explanation over the missing knife and jacket when he could have done so.

What’s the connection with the Black Dahlia murder?
Two days after the murder Mitchell bought a Marilyn Manson DVD, “The Golden Age of the Grotesque”, which included images of naked women tied together and subjected to a form of abduction.

Manson had an exhibition of the same name publicised on his website, which included images depicting the death of the actress Elizabeth Short, also known as “The Black Dahlia”, who was mutilated and murdered in Los Angeles in 1947.

Professor Anthony Busuttil, the pathologist who examined Jodi’s body, gave evidence that while not identical there was some similarity between the location and the injuries inflicted on Jodi and those on the actress.

Were there any other suspects or people questioned during the police investigation?
Several people were questioned extensively by police and ruled out including most of the people mentioned in the documentary.

Mark Kane - who it was alleged was in the area at the same time as Jodi and had scratches on his face - was cleared of any involvement by police. His pal Scott Forbes said Kane, a student at Newbattle Abbey College at the time of the murder, had written an essay on “killing a girl in the woods”, and that a lecturer at the college could confirm this.

But John Beckett QC, for the Crown, said a statement from the lecturer “confirmed Kane wrote no such essay”.

He added that Forbes had told Kane to play along “and we will get £50,000 from the newspapers”. Kane later died and was totally ruled out as a suspect by police.

The whereabouts of all family members was examined to help develop a timeline of what happened. This is routine during all murder investigations and nobody else was considered a suspect.

What about the used condom found near Jodi’s body?
Jodi was NOT sexually assaulted in any way. Mitchell’s defence team claimed the DNA in the condom belonged to another man - James Falconer - but during an appeal hearing in 2008 Donald Findlay QC, who was Mitchell’s lawyer, told the judges he was dropping any further claims about James, who had already been ruled out of any involvement by detectives investigating the murder.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/hard-facts-prove-luke-mitchell-23588583?utm_source=daily_record_newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter2&utm_medium=email
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #187 on: March 02, 2021, 01:34:00 PM »
Jane Hamilton is being subjected to a great deal of abuse

I do hope she is reporting this to the police so they have a record of the patterns of behaviour

She’s doing a sterling job with the limited space available to her
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Offline JC2721

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #188 on: March 02, 2021, 02:15:50 PM »
Did Shane Mitchell give a statement prior to the ‘mashing tattles’ statement that he admitted discussing with his mother, and is this highlighted anywhere?

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #189 on: March 02, 2021, 04:46:02 PM »
Where can I see the actual facts of prosecution and defense cases?

There's a quick summary of the prosecution's case in Section 92 of the 2008 appeal document. There's a less concise version of the defence's case in sections 27 to 31. Each claim is also dealt with in huge detail throughout the doc.

https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #190 on: March 02, 2021, 05:55:57 PM »
Certainly been an interesting few days, trying to keep up with everything from all sides.
Still to be convinced either way, without having all the facts, not just those reported in media or
via a documentary, and having been on 4 jurys, I don't see how anyone can form an opinion
either way, without all the facts.
He said, she said etc etc, doesn't do it for me.
Where can I see the actual facts of prosecution and defense cases?

I suggest just such a thread yesterday but it wasn’t approved.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #191 on: March 03, 2021, 12:27:14 AM »
The Sun did an amazing article on the Ch5 documentary or at least the 10 pieces of evidence and facts NOT mentioned in it.

Note in particular the fact that Shane Mitchell changed his statement several months after making his first one. He admitted in court that he had discussed the first statement with his mother Corinne Mitchell. In it he had claimed that he saw Luke in the kitchen of the family home mashing potatoes. In the second statement he stated that he was alone in the house.

MITCHELL'S own brother raised doubt over his alibi that he was at home cooking dinner when Jodi was murdered.

Their mother, Corinne, gave evidence that when she returned home from work at 5.15pm Luke was in the kitchen while brother Shane told  police on July 7, 2003 he recalled seeing Luke in the kitchen “mashing tatties”.

But when Shane was questioned by cops again - on 14 April 2004 - he said he had been looking at porn online in his bedroom and would not have done so if there had been anyone else in the house at the time.

This contradicted what his brother and mum told  police.

In court, Shane then admitted he had discussed his first statement with his mother before telling officers Mitchell had been at home and admitted the statement was not accurate.

Corinne was later arrested for perjury but the charges were eventually dropped.


https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6759709/luke-mitchell-evidence-guilty-jodi-jones-murder/
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #192 on: March 03, 2021, 12:40:19 AM »
The Sun did an amazing article on the Ch5 documentary or at least the 10 pieces of evidence and facts NOT mentioned in it.

Note in particular the fact that Shane Mitchell changed his statement several months after making his first one. He admitted in court that he had discussed the first statement with his mother Corinne Mitchell. In it he had claimed that he saw Luke in the kitchen of the family home mashing potatoes. In the second statement he stated that he was alone in the house.

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MURDER CASE Luke Mitchell: 10 pieces of evidence and facts NOT mentioned in Channel 5 documentary over Jodi Jones murder
Katy Pagan
18:58, 2 Mar 2021Updated: 0:07, 3 Mar 2021
A CHANNEL 5 documentary exploring the conviction of killer Luke Mitchell cast doubts over his guilt last week.

Mitchell was caged for life over the murder of his 14-year-old girlfriend Jodi Jones, who was butchered to death in Easthouses, Midlothian, in 2003.

Luke Mitchell was convicted of murdering his girlfriend Jodi Jones
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Luke Mitchell was convicted of murdering his girlfriend Jodi JonesCredit: Andrew Barr - The Sun Glasgow
The chilling crime was featured in documentary Murder in a Small Town and sparked a petition demanding an independent inquiry into his conviction.

But Jodi's family has blasted the "biased" documentary about her murder, which also made a legal blunder incorrectly naming somebody on a suspect list.

Luke Mitchell trial witness fears new crime doc 'points finger at him' as killer
And to date, four doomed attempts to overturn Mitchell’s conviction have been rejected.

Here's the key evidence and facts cited in appeal rulings which contributed to keeping Mitchell behind bars...


Jodi Jones' body was found in woodland in 2003
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Jodi Jones' body was found in woodland in 2003Credit: PA:Press Association
The missing knife
AT the time of Jodi's murder, Mitchell was described as having an interest in knives, and owned a 4 inch 'skunting' blade.

That knife and its pouch were not found during an extensive police search of Mitchell's home.

During another search the following year, the pouch was recovered - featuring a number of inscriptions including the numbers 666 and "[Name removed] 1989 - 2003", marking Jodi's birth and death.

A further quote also read: "The finest day I ever had was when tomorrow never came", a quote from the lead singer of Nirvana.


According to pathologist Professor Anthony Busuttil, the murder weapon which caused the injuries to Jodi's throat was a "stout, sharp-pointed, blade".

When questioned, Mitchell failed to provide an explanation over the missing knife.

Mitchell's knife was never recovered but the pouch was found
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Mitchell's knife was never recovered but the pouch was foundCredit: PA:Press Association
The missing jacket
MITCHELL was reported to have been wearing a parka jacket on the night Jodi was killed.

Witnesses described the distinctive coat, which he was often seen wearing, on the night of the murder but it could not be found during a police search of his home.

The Crown sought to link this with evidence that a log burner in the back garden of Mitchell's home was used to destroy the jacket later that night with an "unusual smell emanating from it" reported by neighbours.

The court was also told Corinne had bought her son a new jacket, identical to the one that had gone missing.

As with the knife, Mitchell failed to provide any kind of explanation over the missing jacket.

Mitchell's brother's testimony about alibi
MITCHELL'S own brother raised doubt over his alibi that he was at home cooking dinner when Jodi was murdered.

Their mother, Corinne, gave evidence that when she returned home from work at 5.15pm Luke was in the kitchen while brother Shane tol.... ......olice on July 7, 2003 he recalled seeing Luke in the kitchen “mashing tatties”.

But when Shane was questioned by cops again - on 14 April 2004 - he said he had been looking at porn online in his bedroom and would not have done so if there had been anyone else in the house at the time.

This contradicted what his brother and mum tol.... ......olice.

In court, Shane then admitted he had discussed his first statement with his mother before telling officers Mitchell had been at home and admitted the statement was not accurate.

Corinne was later arrested for perjury but the charges were eventually dropped."

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6759709/luke-mitchell-evidence-guilty-jodi-jones-murder/

Shall we start at the bottom....Corrine was not charged with perjury, she had not given her evidence under oath, she was charged with perverting the course of justice....and go from there?

Yes truly amazing Angelo...one fact in an it’s all gone Pete Tong.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #193 on: March 03, 2021, 08:01:36 AM »
You are making this sound like a sensible discussion

What was ‘sensible’ about

 ‘Whenever you appear on tv your words , feeling and thoughts are edited’

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #194 on: March 03, 2021, 10:13:44 AM »
Someone has asked,

Why didn't he behave like someone who had just committed an extremely brutal murder?

How do murderers behave after their crimes?

Simon Hall appeared ‘fine’ according to his mother Lynn Hall
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