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Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #630 on: April 15, 2021, 08:11:34 PM »
 &^^&*
Ms Lean -  to the effect of?

I have given quotes one from Frontline Scotland, one from the BBC website. This is becoming embarrassing.

As to the red bobble, perhaps you need to look more deeply to where the red bobble story originated from.

It came from Luke, no one else. Let us turn that around.

Ms Lean;

Is this what you are going to refer to? Which of course is used for one purpose only, to distract away from what LM actually did say in his statements.   

However, Ms Lean (perhaps because this is more public) Goes to great lengths to explain why? Luke saw this "scrunchie". A brief summary of this explanation;

'The body had been moved which could give reason as to why the 'scrunchie' them became out of sight, cause as to why the pathologist did not see it at first, due to it being buried/tangled out of sight in Jodi's hair. Outwith Luke, the only other people to have seen the body before it was moved were AW and SK. Admittedly they do not mention seeing this bobble, however they simply were not asked. They may have seen it.

In depth explanation as to why Luke saw this as opposed to the others, primarily the pathologist. However; These witness's as with Luke would have been asked to describe what they had seen. It is hardly surprising that they did not see this bobble, firstly and primarily because it was out of sight, and secondly the actual horror of what they had witnessed. Who would actually pick up on the type of tree and the bobble as opposed to the horror before them. Clearly points to the killer only having knowledge of this bobble and of the tree.

The ‘bobble’ comment.....was it in one of Luke’s police statements?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline William Wallace

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #631 on: April 15, 2021, 11:28:54 PM »
Not my narrative though - very little of what I actually do say, is not my narrative, nor assumption. It is based on the evidence. The recording was played at trial was it not?

Now you're Just being silly. Do you actually stop to think properly before you respond? As you say "if he was innocent" he most likely would have called Jodi's parents, once may have sufficed of course, to say, do you know if Jodi went elsewhere she has not shown up, or is Jodi back home yet? Anything really. But lets go firmly of that stance of guilt.

Who is this 'Luke is guilty brigade' You are doing it again. It was the Crown, of evidence presented before a Jury that found Luke Mitchell guilty. Nothing new has come about in this case, that is zero. These constant cries of 'new evidence' there is not as there is no new evidence to find - Top award for trying though. These constant feeds in the hope that the 'killer' may suddenly be brought to light from someone watching/listening.

These forums I've read, of people scouring every inch of these 'others' private lives. The invasion and condemnation is deplorable is it not? On what basis Faithlilly? That they do not know if Luke Mitchell is innocent, that at the very best there may be a ? of 'proof beyond reasonable doubt' What there is not, in any shape or forum, is proof that Luke Mitchell did not kill Jodi Jones and that he could not have. 

You are half correct of course - let us think about Luke Mitchell, those police interviews, those sociopathic tendencies. Those violent outburst,  of being hot headed, that lack of empathy from 'claimed' discovery to the present day. - If you want to work on the opposite basis of complete innocence to complete guilt. The Crowns case and that of Luke Mitchell being found guilty.

'This may very well have been a girl in love, happy at getting out without chores, to see her boyfriend whom she adored. Luke Mitchell chased up those boys in the abbey, he did not like to be kept waiting.? Jodi kept him waiting, or rather her mother? Did she not have to sit and listen to a song first? Luke phoning the speaking clock, angry at been kept waiting. Those actions witnessed by AB that caught her attention. And he did have a violent outburst and lost complete control, murdering his girlfriend, that young girl who adored him. And that anger and outburst subsided and he was calm and instantly calculated. That mind that had played something like this over in thought before. This gossip, information passed over of his past demeaners, not all made up at all, was it? He had killed animals before, he had described to someone the best way to kill someone, and much more. He had no PTSD, he wanted more knives, he wanted to go out partying, more girls in tow. The only thing he was medicated with was cannabis. No one was allowed to say no, there was no acceptance of that word from any of his actions. He needed to be centre of attention in all of this and still does. One of the major symptoms of being a sociopath. There is no diagnosis of it, no treatment. It is merited by the actions of a person and Luke Mitchell fits every one of them. That need to be adored. That OTT relationship with his mother'.

This is the Luke Mitchell that was found guilty. This is the Luke Mitchell who could not control one thing 'That of the police being the police' He may have thought he had outsmarted them. Such a shock, when relaxed, feeling that he had gotten away with it - Off up town to 'Whiplash Trash' those words to the employee "we are celebrating"  For that knock to come at his door in April 2004.

He did not know those messages had been deleted and of this girls parents knowing she was going to meet with him. He had no choice to phone the Jones house. He did however have that choice to phone back. Why do you suppose he didn't Faithlilly?, remember here, he is guilty. He did not simply need time for that quick change, 5.40 until 6pm and to be seen in that very small time frame. He needed an alibi, and he needed a story set in place, and he needed time for disposal. He did not bank on being seen at the gate, he could not avoid having to cross Newbattle R'd. But what he did need first and foremost was that change of outer clothing. It may not have been drenched in blood but it certainly needed to be gotten rid of. That is what Luke Mitchell was doing from 6.15pm until 7.20pm at the latest. And he did leave the boys much earlier than he usually did when out. Claimed to be home from just after 9pm when it would usually be 10pm. Witnessed however going home at 10pm

But you are correct, there may have been a slim chance in that first phone call if it had caused any alert, it would however have changed nothing. The killer, being Luke Mitchell remember, knew that Jodi would not be found easily, and if she was, there was that time frame of Identity, everything. LM had plenty time on his hands. You can assume lots, let's make that clear assumption though, If this girls father had asked Luke or phoned back what do you assume Luke would have done then?

He was prepped and ready for that inevitable call coming through. He was ready from Just after 7pm. Most likely on a 'high' That buzz of waiting until that moment of discovery. That even higher buzz when he became part of it.

There is consistent mention of some call going missing from the case files of a 'missing person' Really? Is this like the 'mechanic' Did Luke Mitchell phone prior to Jodi's mother contacting him? Was he yet again becoming impatient? That other clear symptom of being a 'sociopath?'

So, all of the above, written on the clear basis of evidence from the crowns case - I do not know if Luke Mitchell is 100% guilty. But I have clearly stated over. That there was sound reason as to why suspicion fell upon him and remained upon him.


Andrina Bryson did not identify him in Court even though his face had been in the papers daily for over a year. The 2 witnesses who saw someone at the gate said in Court it was definitely not Mitchell. There's no confirmed sightings of him at the path at all. Rather than going into a huge lengthy reply, please explain these points:

1. Why was there no DNA belonging to Mitchell at the scene?
2. Why was there no DNA connecting him to the murder in his house?
3. Why do you think the moped 'persons' intially lied and claimed to have been up the path at 415pm and not 515pm?
5. Why did the moped disappear very soon after the murder so fast that the Police never traced it?
6. Why were 3 statements about who found the body and how, changed and all changed to say the same thing?
7. What was the motive for Luke Mitchell to kill her?
8. Why did [Name removed] hide a damp pair of rubber gloves in a drawer in another house and claim it was to stop his niece touching them?
9. Why was Alan Ovens never asked to give evidence - he was in the house when Jodi allegedly left.

Mitchell was not the person who killed Jodi Jones. The person who did this got away undetected. Mitchell didn't walk down the path and along the main road and up his own street full of people after committing a murder. Nor is the "he washed himself in the stream behind his house" theory anything but laughable. If he did......did he walk back to the house in the nude?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #632 on: April 16, 2021, 12:03:10 AM »

Andrina Bryson did not identify him in Court even though his face had been in the papers daily for over a year. The 2 witnesses who saw someone at the gate said in Court it was definitely not Mitchell. There's no confirmed sightings of him at the path at all. Rather than going into a huge lengthy reply, please explain these points:

1. Why was there no DNA belonging to Mitchell at the scene?
2. Why was there no DNA connecting him to the murder in his house?
3. Why do you think the moped 'persons' intially lied and claimed to have been up the path at 415pm and not 515pm?
5. Why did the moped disappear very soon after the murder so fast that the Police never traced it?
6. Why were 3 statements about who found the body and how, changed and all changed to say the same thing?
7. What was the motive for Luke Mitchell to kill her?
8. Why did [Name removed] hide a damp pair of rubber gloves in a drawer in another house and claim it was to stop his niece touching them?
9. Why was Alan Ovens never asked to give evidence - he was in the house when Jodi allegedly left.

Mitchell was not the person who killed Jodi Jones. The person who did this got away undetected. Mitchell didn't walk down the path and along the main road and up his own street full of people after committing a murder. Nor is the "he washed himself in the stream behind his house" theory anything but laughable. If he did......did he walk back to the house in the nude?

Interesting that Andrina Bryson said that she couldn’t describe anything with regard to her sighting’s facial features but managed to identify Luke from a photograph of his face.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Parky41

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #633 on: April 16, 2021, 12:32:48 AM »

Andrina Bryson did not identify him in Court even though his face had been in the papers daily for over a year. The 2 witnesses who saw someone at the gate said in Court it was definitely not Mitchell. There's no confirmed sightings of him at the path at all. Rather than going into a huge lengthy reply, please explain these points:

1. Why was there no DNA belonging to Mitchell at the scene?
2. Why was there no DNA connecting him to the murder in his house?
3. Why do you think the moped 'persons' intially lied and claimed to have been up the path at 415pm and not 515pm?
5. Why did the moped disappear very soon after the murder so fast that the Police never traced it?
6. Why were 3 statements about who found the body and how, changed and all changed to say the same thing?
7. What was the motive for Luke Mitchell to kill her?
8. Why did [Name removed] hide a damp pair of rubber gloves in a drawer in another house and claim it was to stop his niece touching them?
9. Why was Alan Ovens never asked to give evidence - he was in the house when Jodi allegedly left.

Mitchell was not the person who killed Jodi Jones. The person who did this got away undetected. Mitchell didn't walk down the path and along the main road and up his own street full of people after committing a murder. Nor is the "he washed himself in the stream behind his house" theory anything but laughable. If he did......did he walk back to the house in the nude?

Quiz time, how quaint:

1) There was, hidden, buried in those case files?
2) Shoddy police work - silly boys didn't go in until day 4?
3) Duo would have sufficed for male and female?
5) SM took it to a scrapyard with the rest of the evidence?
6) They too advice from CM, LM and co - from the experts?
7) I'll ask him next time I write to him?
8) I do not know anyone called 'name removed'
9) Perhaps he was and declined?

For the 'blankety blank one no 4) I'll use my right to remain silent.
And please - His name is Luke not 'Mitchell' 
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Offline Rusty

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #634 on: April 16, 2021, 12:37:42 AM »

Andrina Bryson did not identify him in Court even though his face had been in the papers daily for over a year. The 2 witnesses who saw someone at the gate said in Court it was definitely not Mitchell. There's no confirmed sightings of him at the path at all. Rather than going into a huge lengthy reply, please explain these points:

1. Why was there no DNA belonging to Mitchell at the scene?
2. Why was there no DNA connecting him to the murder in his house?
3. Why do you think the moped 'persons' intially lied and claimed to have been up the path at 415pm and not 515pm?
5. Why did the moped disappear very soon after the murder so fast that the Police never traced it?
6. Why were 3 statements about who found the body and how, changed and all changed to say the same thing?
7. What was the motive for Luke Mitchell to kill her?
8. Why did [Name removed] hide a damp pair of rubber gloves in a drawer in another house and claim it was to stop his niece touching them?
9. Why was Alan Ovens never asked to give evidence - he was in the house when Jodi allegedly left.

Mitchell was not the person who killed Jodi Jones. The person who did this got away undetected. Mitchell didn't walk down the path and along the main road and up his own street full of people after committing a murder. Nor is the "he washed himself in the stream behind his house" theory anything but laughable. If he did......did he walk back to the house in the nude?

Points 1 to 9. Boring, been done to death. 17/18 years round in circles. Luke is still in jail and will be for many years to come. Need to find something new  8((()*/

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #635 on: April 16, 2021, 10:55:59 AM »
Quiz time, how quaint:

1) There was, hidden, buried in those case files?
2) Shoddy police work - silly boys didn't go in until day 4?
3) Duo would have sufficed for male and female?
5) SM took it to a scrapyard with the rest of the evidence?
6) They too advice from CM, LM and co - from the experts?
7) I'll ask him next time I write to him?
8) I do not know anyone called 'name removed'
9) Perhaps he was and declined?

For the 'blankety blank one no 4) I'll use my right to remain silent.
And please - His name is Luke not 'Mitchell'

1) Yet the Crown didn’t use that very pertinent evidence’ buried in the case files’ but decided to cobble together a purely circumstantial case. How very unprofessional of them.
2)Corrine must have been a whizz with the dettol spray if she managed to obliterate every speck of incriminating evidence from the family home. Did the FLO say that she’d seen Corrine, Luke or Shane clean the house to within an inch of its life?
3) through 9)....my, my you fairly buckle under pressure.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Parky41

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #636 on: April 16, 2021, 11:15:50 AM »
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My my you fairly buckle under pressure

Oh dear.  But really?

Chill  8(0(*- Somewhat of a 'bulldozer' are we not?  Complete ' word play' response to this pleasant (please) demand for answers. My response to the poster who asked this of myself. Basically saying to them? "are you having a laugh here?

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Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #637 on: April 16, 2021, 11:44:07 AM »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #638 on: April 16, 2021, 11:45:19 AM »
Oh dear.  But really?

Chill  8(0(*- Somewhat of a 'bulldozer' are we not?  Complete ' word play' response to this pleasant (please) demand for answers. My response to the poster who asked this of myself. Basically saying to them? "are you having a laugh here?

Oh is that what it was? Fantastic because I, ridiculously, thought it was your way of avoiding some rather challenging questions.

I stand corrected ( apologies for the lack of a smilie emoticon here, I’m trying to wean myself off of them).

As you were.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #639 on: May 08, 2021, 04:38:13 PM »
As did the girl he was cheating on Jodi with, Kimberley Thomson:



And he absolutely was 2 timing the pair of them despite what Sandra says. This is likely what they were arguing about on the day of the murder, because Luke had plans to spend time with Kimberley Thomson 60 miles away now that school was finished. Kimberley and Luke were texting "love you" to each other just days before the murder.

As did his former high school teacher, who had reason to remember it because he joked that Luke resembled a "hooded monk" walking around school with it on. This teacher retired that summer so could only have seen Luke wearing it before the murder.

As did Luke's friends.

All these independent people, deciding to lie for no apparent reason.  *%87

This is another girl called ‘Kim’ NOT Kimberly Thompson
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Paranoid Android

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #640 on: May 08, 2021, 05:25:05 PM »
As did the girl he was cheating on Jodi with, Kimberley Thomson:



And he absolutely was 2 timing the pair of them despite what Sandra says. This is likely what they were arguing about on the day of the murder, because Luke had plans to spend time with Kimberley Thomson 60 miles away now that school was finished. Kimberley and Luke were texting "love you" to each other just days before the murder.

As did his former high school teacher, who had reason to remember it because he joked that Luke resembled a "hooded monk" walking around school with it on. This teacher retired that summer so could only have seen Luke wearing it before the murder.

As did Luke's friends.

All these independent people, deciding to lie for no apparent reason.  *%87

Blimey! How many young lassies was LM hassling?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #641 on: May 08, 2021, 05:46:50 PM »
Blimey! How many young lassies was LM hassling?

The evidence of the other Kim who stated Luke Mitchell had a parka before the murder doesn’t help him at all -  so it’s not mentioned - it’s omitted
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #642 on: May 08, 2021, 05:58:26 PM »
The evidence of the other Kim who stated Luke Mitchell had a parka before the murder doesn’t help him at all -  so it’s not mentioned - it’s omitted

My wouldn’t her claim have been dynamite in court...except she was never called to testify. It does make you wonder why as the evidence of Luke having a parka prior to the murder were tenuous to say the least.

You really do need to stop believing everything you read Nic.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #643 on: May 08, 2021, 06:44:27 PM »
My wouldn’t her claim have been dynamite in court...except she was never called to testify. It does make you wonder why as the evidence of Luke having a parka prior to the murder were tenuous to say the least.

Can you point me to the transcripts of what exactly was said in court throughout the duration of the trial in relation to the parka ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #644 on: May 08, 2021, 06:45:15 PM »
You really do need to stop believing everything you read Nic.

I believe nothing I read or hear from Sandra Lean

Anything and everything she states should always be fact checked
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation