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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2415 on: March 31, 2023, 11:59:06 PM »
You do realise that Dr Lean has a PhD and therefore is entitled to call herself doctor?

Don’t you find that jealousy is such an unedifying trait?

I have many friends who have a PhD but I don't call them Dr. It smacks of grandiosity and desperation to be recognised. Is there a single case she has worked on that has been peer approved or academically recognised? She is a hobbyist with no record of any recognisable progress in 20 years.

Jealousy is certainly an unedifying trait but pales in significance to spending years falsely accusing a family of murdering their daughter.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2416 on: April 01, 2023, 12:01:58 AM »
“Darlin”

“Wee darlin” - then Roddy McCleod stated;

“We can presume she was stripped before she was murdered”

And the creep emphasised ‘stripped’

 *&^^&

“The judge believed that’s where she’d been killed” ~ Roddy McLeod

He’s a mind reader as well as a raving creep

 *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2417 on: April 01, 2023, 12:05:07 AM »
I have many friends who have a PhD but I don't call them Dr. It smacks of grandiosity and desperation to be recognised. Is there a single case she has worked on that has been peer approved or academically recognised? She is a hobbyist with no record of any recognisable progress in 20 years.

Jealousy is certainly an unedifying trait but pales in significance to spending years falsely accusing a family of murdering their daughter.

 *&^^&

Sandra Lean has spent 20 years gaslighting anyone who will listen to her

The woman has behaved like a classic psychopath
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2418 on: April 01, 2023, 12:08:00 AM »
“Darlin”

“Wee darlin” - then Roddy McCleod stated;

“We can presume she was stripped before she was murdered”

And the creep emphasised ‘stripped’

 *&^^&

No he didn’t.

Roddy McCleod is an individual of a certain age and his language accords with this. I know several woman of the same age who also use the phrase “wee darlin”.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2419 on: April 01, 2023, 12:10:51 AM »
I have many friends who have a PhD but I don't call them Dr. It smacks of grandiosity and desperation to be recognised. Is there a single case she has worked on that has been peer approved or academically recognised? She is a hobbyist with no record of any recognisable progress in 20 years.

Jealousy is certainly an unedifying trait but pales in significance to spending years falsely accusing a family of murdering their daughter.

Can I assume that you don’t have a PhD. Can I suggest that that might be your problem?

Dr Lean is her official title. I’m sure her friends don’t call her that.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2420 on: April 01, 2023, 02:30:12 AM »
During his 1st July 2003 killer Luke Mitchell had his mother Corinne Mitchell sat next to him

And there were times during this interview where he would ask his mother questions to aide his evidence

Like for example saying to Corinne “Shane wasn’t there was he”

Killer Luke Mitchell also told police during this first interview that he went out to look for Jodi on his mother's suggestion

And this appears to have occurred prior to receiving a text message from Judith Jones

Corinne Mitchell’s stated during her killer sons trail;

I kept trying to phone him as he was late and in trouble

All her telephone calls to her killer son were ignored

Then at 00:30hrs on the 1st of July 2003 killer Luke telephoned his mother allegedly saying to her;

I can't talk, I have to go


According to Scott Forbes

Stop f..king phoning” is what psycho killer Luke Mitchell said to his mother Corinne at 00:30hrs on the 1st July 2003 after ignoring her other phone calls
« Last Edit: April 01, 2023, 02:34:52 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2421 on: April 01, 2023, 02:33:09 AM »
“Darlin”

“Wee darlin” - then Roddy McCleod stated;

We can presume she was stripped before she was murdered

And the creep emphasised ‘stripped’

 *&^^&

“Not according to the prosecution” ~ Sandra Lean

How would this women even know all what the prosecution said throughout the 42 day trial - she wasn’t there!

And a wealth of evidence heard through out the 42 day trial never made it into the public domain

It makes sense killer Luke Mitchell may have killed Jodi Jones after she had possibly removed her clothing

They were sexually active


« Last Edit: April 01, 2023, 02:38:36 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2422 on: April 01, 2023, 04:08:22 AM »
Fraudster Scott Forbes couldn’t instruct a barrister because he’s not a real lawyer

 @)(++(*
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2423 on: April 01, 2023, 09:46:52 AM »
“Not according to the prosecution” ~ Sandra Lean

How would this women even know all what the prosecution said throughout the 42 day trial - she wasn’t there!

And a wealth of evidence heard through out the 42 day trial never made it into the public domain

It makes sense killer Luke Mitchell may have killed Jodi Jones after she had possibly removed her clothing

They were sexually active

If the evidence didn’t make it into the public domain how do you know it didn’t? From Dr Lean? You and her were friends at on point weren’t you and she certainly is privy to more information than was made public.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2424 on: April 01, 2023, 10:43:37 AM »
They (Lean and co) can "presume" until the cows come home, their presumptions account for zero. The evidence and the very essence of why the murder scene was placed there, was because of the forensic evidence leading in a trail from where that attack commenced and ended. The "dragging" and all else from photographs is from what LM carried out. A lad who without any doubt was fuelled by adrenalin.

LM described (from prior knowledge) that "large oak tree" the body was hidden behind - SF's says the body was behind a felled tree! SL has spoken of coming to a large tree stump then that large tree! They were not cutting any branches from a tree stump!

Let us just highlight some more lies here -

"A jacket, which was said to be similar to the one which may have been worn/owned by Luke Mitchell" P.199 of IB. This is the description of item to be tested in the reports - A parka is on the list of items, that coat taken from a connected house in Woodburn, it is one and the same coat. There in those defence papers and forensic reports, nothing "hidden" about it.

Lean in the latest claims, that at no time was that t-shirt worn by the victim ever identified as being her sisters - At trial JaJ's was shown that t-shirt physically and asked to identify it! It was not just a plain t-shirt, one of many hard to identify, it was of a certain make.

The intentional placing of focus around sex - As has been proved by science long before the 30th of June 2003, blood, semen, those types of bodily fluids take some serious washing to eliminate all trace. There was NOTHING visible upon that top that had been laundered, washing out trace of JaJ's, but NOT every single fragment of those remnants from a previous encounter. There was NO young girl putting on a dirty anything. Also those previous encounters between LM and [Name removed]!

There was NO cradling of any body! As was made clear, this is what LM claimed in that media article, it did NOT happen - LM could NOT see anything of what AW may have been doing, he was NOT down beside her. On that  phone to 999 whilst those screams resounded in the background ----- AW from her statements and evidence had briefly touched her granddaughters forehead.

A tent is primarily erected for privacy and preservation only if required. No media, no public there to spectate, a sheltered area from most everything. That crime scene preserved to the max, using only one access point that had already been accessed, not traipsing through every other area prior to the forensic teams coming in. - Again, the claims, everything these enablers say, placed in the trash at all times, there is NOTHING to trust in any of it. Everything, from the point of the coroner not being able to access via that break carried out by clear direction of experts.










Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2425 on: April 01, 2023, 10:47:11 AM »
They (Lean and co) can "presume" until the cows come home, their presumptions account for zero. The evidence and the very essence of why the murder scene was placed there, was because of the forensic evidence leading in a trail from where that attack commenced and ended. The "dragging" and all else from photographs is from what LM carried out. A lad who without any doubt was fuelled by adrenalin.

LM described (from prior knowledge) that "large oak tree" the body was hidden behind - SF's says the body was behind a felled tree! SL has spoken of coming to a large tree stump then that large tree! They were not cutting any branches from a tree stump!

Let us just highlight some more lies here -

"A jacket, which was said to be similar to the one which may have been worn/owned by Luke Mitchell" P.199 of IB. This is the description of item to be tested in the reports - A parka is on the list of items, that coat taken from a connected house in Woodburn, it is one and the same coat. There in those defence papers and forensic reports, nothing "hidden" about it.

Lean in the latest claims, that at no time was that t-shirt worn by the victim ever identified as being her sisters - At trial JaJ's was shown that t-shirt physically and asked to identify it! It was not just a plain t-shirt, one of many hard to identify, it was of a certain make.

The intentional placing of focus around sex - As has been proved by science long before the 30th of June 2003, blood, semen, those types of bodily fluids take some serious washing to eliminate all trace. There was NOTHING visible upon that top that had been laundered, washing out trace of JaJ's, but NOT every single fragment of those remnants from a previous encounter. There was NO young girl putting on a dirty anything. Also those previous encounters between LM and [Name removed]!

There was NO cradling of any body! As was made clear, this is what LM claimed in that media article, it did NOT happen - LM could NOT see anything of what AW may have been doing, he was NOT down beside her. On that  phone to 999 whilst those screams resounded in the background ----- AW from her statements and evidence had briefly touched her granddaughters forehead.

A tent is primarily erected for privacy and preservation only if required. No media, no public there to spectate, a sheltered area from most everything. That crime scene preserved to the max, using only one access point that had already been accessed, not traipsing through every other area prior to the forensic teams coming in. - Again, the claims, everything these enablers say, placed in the trash at all times, there is NOTHING to trust in any of it. Everything, from the point of the coroner not being able to access via that break carried out by clear direction of experts.

Some further information gathered - AP (the aunt) has never been a social worker, never served on any protection unit nor panel, she is a nursery nurse and Unison rep. Arrived at the area and directed to enter via the school car park, to only go to the school car park because the area was cordoned off. All access to that path and woodland. Why may she have been there by the time LM was taken there? It is not hard.

LM led the police a "merry dance", he knew that area like the  back of his hand yet brought the police in via Reeds Drive (something else lied about repeatedly). At this point the search trio were east of that V break in the wall, we know this for they were up from that line of trees blocking view of the path, the wall, from anywhere. He told the police to look across and that he would "shine his torch" to show them where they were. There was ONLY accessing by Reed Drive because of LM, there was no flash up of sex offenders or anything else, there had been NO identification of any crime, of what had happened to that poor girl by this point - Again the gullible, the easily led who fall under such nonsense.

Arriving and they go with LM to that V break whilst the others are directed up and off that path, the timescale of this happening had the aunts arrive to the area and school, there when LM was re-united with the others? He had been initially separated and not instantly separated and whisked away anywhere. Taken from behind the school some time later, after sitting with the others cadging fags, blanking his mother, deleting data from his phone -----

Jodi's mother, brother and step-father arrived, they too were directed behind that school and NOT allowed on any path. As most with sense know, when something like this is called in there are many who attend and not just two police, several cars in attendance, those dealing with LM, the search trio and those cordoning the area off.

Leans latest of AW "stomping up and down the path" of saying "It's a mess -------" Is this LM again or from them all? For what was LM doing when this was taking place?  Calm as you like soaking everything up, revelling in the response of his actions? Of AW and the sense of evil, the hairs standing up on the back of her neck, turning around and LM was standing directly behind her, watching her! Was this at the point of her frantic response, a mind quite clearly about to explode from that horror!

10 -15mins of arriving at a path, not imagining for one moment that anything would be found at all, caught up in a rapid series of events fully led by LM, from worry to the most unimaginable horror ever! The very stuff the nightmares are actually made up of!

Those recordings played in court, LM and his flat affect tones whilst those screams resounded in the background, to the next and SK screaming at the operator in comparison to LM's flat affect tones! To the emergency services, to everything noted around how everyone was behaving. To LM blanking his mother, that "child" who needed NO one, not his mother, his father nor his brother - In full control of everything! The scraping of the defence, to try and find anything of normality in that "child" - "His eyes were wide --" dam right they would have been wide! But not out of any shock that is for sure! Special knowledge, he had NOT been anywhere near to that body at this point, walking around 10 paces behind that wall and stop then return ---- Facts that cannot ever be changed.




Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2426 on: April 01, 2023, 12:43:30 PM »
The intentional placing of focus around sex - As has been proved by science long before the 30th of June 2003, blood, semen, those types of bodily fluids take some serious washing to eliminate all trace. There was NOTHING visible upon that top that had been laundered, washing out trace of JaJ's, but NOT every single fragment of those remnants from a previous encounter. There was NO young girl putting on a dirty anything. Also those previous encounters between LM and [Name removed]!

She knows - she just doesn’t care

Because this is all about Sandra Lean!

And the ‘Rotherham child sexual abuse trial’ demonstrated that semen was still detectable on laundered clothes - even after several washes

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26232275/
« Last Edit: April 01, 2023, 12:45:37 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2427 on: April 01, 2023, 12:47:21 PM »
There was NO cradling of any body! As was made clear, this is what LM claimed in that media article, it did NOT happen - LM could NOT see anything of what AW may have been doing, he was NOT down beside her. On that  phone to 999 whilst those screams resounded in the background ----- AW from her statements and evidence had briefly touched her granddaughters forehead.

Yep and that creep Roddy McCleod now has the ‘granny’ ‘cuddling’ Jodi Jones

And without doubt Roddy McCleod knows the fraud at play in Sandra Lean and Scott Forbes fraudulent PR campaign

The three of them are proper sicko creeps
« Last Edit: April 01, 2023, 12:49:57 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2428 on: April 01, 2023, 01:10:03 PM »
LM led the police a "merry dance", he knew that area like the  back of his hand yet brought the police in via Reeds Drive (something else lied about repeatedly).

Yep

 *&^^&

And I very much doubt any police officer asked the killer Luke Mitchell to go over that wall again

And grifter Sandra Lean has never given the name of the police officer who is alleged to have suggested this

Which is again telling

« Last Edit: April 01, 2023, 01:12:09 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2429 on: April 01, 2023, 01:15:45 PM »
He had been initially separated and not instantly separated and whisked away anywhere. Taken from behind the school some time later, after sitting with the others cadging fags, blanking his mother, deleting data from his phone -----

Yep

Killer Luke Mitchell was still there when he told his mother Corinne Mitchell to “stop f..king phoning” at 00:30hrs
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