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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4245 on: October 28, 2023, 12:36:51 PM »
Corinne Mitchell to James English

“I wasn’t allowed in the trial, I was kept till the very very last day to give my evidence, I wasn’t allowed in

Corinne Mitchell gave evidence on the 13th and 14th of January 2004 which was not the “very, very last day”!

Natalie Wright, Raymond McCloy, James Aitken, DCI Ronald Miller, Dr Kranti Hiremath, Marion O’Sullivan & Derek Hamilton all gave evidence after liar Corinne Mitchell

TIMELINE Of When The Majority Of Witnesses Gave Evidence During Murderer Luke Mitchell’s Trial (Part 273)
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Why didn’t Corinne Mitchell request copies of the trial transcripts?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4246 on: October 28, 2023, 01:00:40 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 6th October 2015

Janine said she knew from the "concern in Luke's voice" that he had found something bad behind the wall. She said "His eyes were wider than normal, like he was in a state of shock
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331196.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331196

Did killer Luke Mitchell do that thing with his eyes that you do in some of your videos Sandra?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4247 on: October 28, 2023, 01:03:50 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 8th October 2018

“Campaigning to free a murderer?" Can we get a little bit real here? My daughters were12 and 13 at the time of Jodi's murder. The eldest went to Newbattle High School, and the youngest was going there that autumn. We lived just 10 minutes walk from Newbattle High. Do you honestly believe a mother in those circumstances, in an area where a 14 year old girl has been so brutally murdered, would campaign to free "the murderer" right back into her own community, putting her own daughters, their friends, and every other young girl in the area at risk?

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331441.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331441

Most definitely!

You demonstrated this when you moved un-convicted baby killer and sexual deviant Billy Middleton into your home Sandra!

You appear to put your needs before the needs of your daughters!
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4248 on: October 28, 2023, 01:09:40 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 8th October 2015

“You may think what you like, but there was a lot of work and soul searching which went into my involvement in this case.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331441.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331441

Why didn’t you attend killer Luke Mitchell’s trial Sandra so you could hear the evidence first hand for yourself?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4249 on: October 28, 2023, 01:14:22 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 8th October 2015

I do not believe there was justice for Jodi or her family obtained here - they were lied to, manipulated and misled from the off - that's a pretty disgusting way to treat a grieving family 
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331441.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331441

“I know there’s no avoiding causing more pain to Jodi’s family I know that~ Sandra Lean to James English (May 2019)

You did not know Jodi Jones Sandra - why the pretence?

It’s you who has been lying Sandra - relentlessly!

And many of the people you’ve been lying to are slowly starting to see through you.



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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4250 on: October 28, 2023, 01:35:29 PM »
Don't know. It's not in the public domain -- although we have context of her appearance as a crown witness from the following:

https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7

Ground of appeal 6. My phone won't let me copy and paste the contents of that ground of appeal.

Scammer Sandra Lean - 6th October 2015

The "expert" raising the trousers/dna evidence was challenged by Findlay to explain, clearly and lucidly to the jury, the relevance of the "evidence" just raised.
Amidst much waffling, the expert was forced to concede that the trousers/dna could not, in any way, be linked to the murder, the murder scene, or to draw any assumption, however feeble, of a link between the two.
It was, in fact, the "expert" who broke the rules here, and Findlay who stomped all over it. Finday handled that particularly well - he didn't "feel he had to explain it away" - he demonstrated, quite clearly, that the "expert" was making false claims about the relevance of the DNA sample on the trousers
However, an objection had been raised to that false evidence being heard by the jury, on the basis that it was prejudicial and without foundation, and that objection was over-ruled - the jury heard it anyway, in its full prejudicial form.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331215.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331215

“..did you know the actual legal position is that it's not for jurors to decide which witnesses they understand, they are simly asked to decided which witnesses they believe - that's why the evidnce from the forensics expert is so important - even if the jury did not understand the intricacies of DNA evidence, if they believed this witness, that's all that's needed to convict, even though she was taking utter rubbish in what could be seen as a cynical attempt to get the jury to believe that an unconnected DNA sample was, in fact, important.

Scammer Sandra Lean - 8th October 2015

From memory, yes, she was the "professional" who tried to claim that there was DNA from Jodi "connected to" a pair of trousers belonging to Luke - thankfully Findlay pointed out that those trousers, were not connected to the murder, therefore the "link" was non existent.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331462.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331462
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4251 on: October 28, 2023, 01:52:59 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 8th October 2015

All stored in my head - not sure if that's a blessing or a curse! As I said previously, I'm only commenting here as a member of the public - not in any "official" capacity - but I have this strange ability to remember dates, times, small details, etc, from stuff I've seen/studied, so a lot of what I'm able to post is based on that.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331524.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331524

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4252 on: October 28, 2023, 02:00:20 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 11th October 2015

There was a second call between Luke and David High - don't have the time or direction of the call to hand - will come back to you on this - Luke had wandered into the Abbey grounds, from memory, one called the other saying "where are you" because the meeting point was an area where there was a bridge, but there were, in fact two bridges. (Having since checked out the area, there are several bridges, so I can only assume that Luke and David each knew of "a" bridge, and initially assumed each other was talking about the same bridge.)
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331825.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331825

During that heavy down pour of rain ?

Were you claiming killer Luke Mitchell was late meeting up with David High Sandra?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4253 on: October 28, 2023, 02:11:16 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 11th October 2015

10.38 - Judith texts Luke.
10:40 Luke calls back - second try, call did not connect first time

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg331825.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg331825

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You claimed the 10:41pm call by killer Luke Mitchell “did not connect” Sandra!

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12406880.phone-record-of-jodi-murder-accused-wiped/
7 January 2005

"Both the inbox and outbox were empty, but the SIM card revealed a message received on the evening of Friday, June 27, 2003, saying: "Luke its Kim im at ma grans can u phone mi on (number) Love u xKimx" Another message on the SIM card at 10.41pm from Jodi's mother read: "2 wks grounding toad . . . Say bye 2 luke"."

The Herald reported the time of the text to be 10:41.

Again - Judith Jones’ text message was sent at 10:20pm - this was also Judith’s evidence during the trial

And evidence killer Luke Mitchell has never appealed on!
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4254 on: October 28, 2023, 02:14:38 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean to scammer Shaun Atwood (aired 12th July 2021)

“It was claimed that Jodi was killed at 5:15 … very precise time here

By who Sandra?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4255 on: October 28, 2023, 02:59:37 PM »
Ana Azaria
Rachel Roll It surprises me that the Police didn't seem bothered about the bike being heard, and the appeal document distanced the moped boys from the scene.  If the moped boys had to push their bike up the path after the engine cut out - at what point was it at the V? before, or after LK heard the sounds? JF said the engine wasn't running when it was at the V - was this after it had cut out? That would surely mean it was after LK heard those sounds - and IF he really did hear the murder, how did the boys not see anything?

Rachel Roll
Ana Azaria Exactly, it makes you think about who was where and when.
LK's evidence was led on the same day as AB's with the aim being to show the jury, that they could make the assumption that Luke was at the Easthouses end of the path and in the company of Jodi at roughly 4:54pm.
LK's evidence was led to show that there was a witness to a 'strangling' type sound coming from the other side of the wall at roughly 5:15pm.
Putting the two together the jury could infer that it was Luke and Jodi that AB saw and it was the murder taking place that LK heard therefor the time of death was 5:15pm, remember there was no forensically ascertained time of death, it was largely based on what LK said he heard and when.
Far too much weight was given to AB and LK's witness evidence. LK's statements evolved over time from, he said he felt like he was being treated like a suspect and pressured to tell the police what they wanted to hear. Given the way that the appeal judges described the way the police behaved while questioning Luke I can absolutely imagine LK being pressured.
If LK's estimated time was wrong or if he didn't hear what he finally said he heard, that throws up more questions surrounding the moped boys and any other estimated time of death would mean it was impossible for it to have been Luke.
DF gets a lot of stick but he did point these things out to the Jury.

Ana Azaria
Rachel Roll Exactly. If he heard the sounds before 5.15pm, then the moped would have been seen at the v break after that. If LK did hear the murder before 5.15pm, the boys would have seen something. But if he heard the sounds after 5.15pm, then that makes an already impossible time frame for it to have been Luke, even less possible. And the moped boys didn't say how long they stayed behind the V. If the murder happened say, at 5.20pm, Luke was seen looking normal, with no blood on him at 5.50pm, no wet hair, wearing different clothing to these 'witness' descriptions. Half an hour for a prolonged attack, moving a body, and making the 7 minute minumum journey home to change and wash, ask his mum to burn a jacket, then make his way to the wall to be seen by boys from school, all in less than 30 minutes? I don't believe it.


Ana Azalia doesn’t appear to believe Sandra Lean anymore - she’s left the Facebook group and Rachel Roll is now acting as Sandra’s mouthpiece
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4256 on: October 28, 2023, 03:04:24 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean to scammer Shaun Atwood (aired 12th July 2021)

“It was claimed that Jodi was killed at 5:15 … very precise time here

By who Sandra?

It was during this video with charlatan Sandra Lean where that scammer Shaun Attwood also referred to killer and rapist Steven Avery

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Shaun Attwood

Where was Luke when this happened

Sandra Lean

When

Shaun Attwood

At 5:15pm where was Luke

Sandra Lean

He was, he was at eh home cooking dinner for his mum and his brother, which he did

Shaun Attwood

And they were all in there with him

Sandra Lean

Erm after 5:15 yeah, but they didn’t accept, they didn’t accept the alibi. They said his mum and his brother were lying to cover up for him

Shaun Avery

That’s exactly what they said about Steven Avery. They said he drove from where he was, in a record amount of time, he couldn’t have possibly got to the crime scene ‘cos he was with his family and they were all liars

This 👆🏽is in relation to Avery’s attack on Penny Beernsten. His family members were indeed impeached “in numerous ways”

“In his own defense, Avery testified that he could not have been at the scene of the assault at the time it occurred. He presented numerous witnesses who testified in support of this claim. According to Avery’s family, he was assisting in a cementing project at his father’s house just prior to the time the incident occurred. However, as the State’s brief points out, the testimony of Avery and his alibi witnesses was impeached in numerous ways. In addition, at the postverdict motion hearing, the trial court recalled the “powerful” evidence that Avery referred to the victim as a female prior to being told the gender of the victim by the police. Despite the number of Avery’s alibi witnesses, we do not view this case as “extremely close.”
https://cases.justia.com/wisconsin/court-of-appeals/1996AP003027-(1997-09-03).pdf?ts=1396152308



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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4257 on: October 28, 2023, 03:50:38 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 17th October 2017

Helping out with the family business?

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg332429.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg332429

Yet you lied to the people you are choosing to dupe Sandra and told then killer Luke Mitchell had never had a job!?

Scammer Sandra Lean stated on the 23rd July 2023 - referring to killer Luke Mitchell;

“..a 35 year old man

Who has never driven a car

Let me see I’ve got a list of what he’s never done

He’s never driven a car

Had a job


He drove his mother Corinne Mitchell car Sandra - at 14/15 years old - ask Grace McLean

Open Your Eyes To The Continuous Bare Faced Lies & Manipulation Of Scammer Sandra Lean On Sadistic Dalkeith Murderer - “Isn’t it amazing how quickly we forget” (Part 266)
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4258 on: October 28, 2023, 04:00:25 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 17th October 2015

Why would I do that? I had two girls just about Jodi's age, living in exactly the area the murder happened, going to school 500 yards from where the body was found.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg332429.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg332429

“the body” was 14 year old Jodi Jones Sandra!

Didn’t “unicorn princess” live with her father?

Similar to killer Luke Mitchell - you appear to be a risk taker and put your own needs first!

 
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4259 on: October 28, 2023, 04:05:39 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 17th October 2015

Someone made a phone call from Luke's home landline to Scotts caravans during this period - we know where his mother, brother, grandmother and father were, so who do you suppose made that call? His brother did not "dispute" Luke's whereabouts initially, as I've explained elsewhere. Mother and brother both ate dinner when mother came in from work - who do you suppose cooked the dinner they ate, or did it somehow make itself?
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg332429.html?PHPSESSID=uif285m980pnbl6b1u3802u654#msg332429

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