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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4290 on: October 30, 2023, 01:04:15 PM »
Lying about what?

Everything - apart from her age
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4291 on: October 30, 2023, 01:10:20 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean referred to raising money for her 60th Birthday

What does the killer and Corinne Mitchell say about this?

Do you know?

And do you know where the donated profits from Sandra Leans book sales has gone to - since October 2018?

I don’t know how the donation money has been spent or if it’s been spent at all, might be all saved up to pay for future testing etc. she did say she will have nothing to do with the donations someone else deals with that. she also say what was done with some of the money raised, getting equipment to help with the protests. The money is not for her 60th birthday it’s for Luke. She wants everyone to get together on her birthday to raise funds.

If it’s to donate money so the samples are independently tested I’d be happy to donate.

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4292 on: October 30, 2023, 01:11:42 PM »
Everything - apart from her age

Everything   @)(++(*

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4293 on: October 30, 2023, 01:16:13 PM »
I don’t know how the donation money has been spent or if it’s been spent at all, might be all saved up to pay for future testing etc.

Might be  @)(++(*
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4294 on: October 30, 2023, 01:17:06 PM »
she did say she will have nothing to do with the donations someone else deals with that

Why did she say that?

Is it because some people now know killer Luke Mitchell has received legal aid over the years and that the “donations” from the profits of sales from scammer Sandra Lean’s books have been spent by Sandra on things like purchasing and converting former council vans, bottles of red wine and trips to farms etc etc ?
« Last Edit: October 30, 2023, 01:27:48 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4295 on: October 30, 2023, 01:27:00 PM »
. she did say she will have nothing to do with the donations someone else deals with that. she also say what was done with some of the money raised, getting equipment to help with the protests.

What equipment has scammer Sandra Lean purchased for protests?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4296 on: October 30, 2023, 01:28:40 PM »
The money is not for her 60th birthday it’s for Luke. She wants everyone to get together on her birthday to raise funds.

 @)(++(*
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4297 on: October 30, 2023, 01:35:57 PM »
Why did she say that?


I would guess because she is so busy and also so she can’t be blamed for mishandling the money.

You accuse her of spending it but do you actually know how it’s been spent or are you just spreading malicious information?

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4298 on: October 30, 2023, 01:36:35 PM »
What equipment has scammer Sandra Lean purchased for protests?

Sound equipment, she mentioned it on one of her updates.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4299 on: October 30, 2023, 01:37:51 PM »
Sound equipment, she mentioned it on one of her updates.

Did she say she had purchased “sound equipment” or that she was planning to purchase “sound equipment” after she had sold enough magnets and t-shirts etc?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4300 on: October 30, 2023, 01:42:54 PM »
Did she say she had purchased “sound equipment” or that she was planning to purchase “sound equipment” after she had sold enough magnets and t-shirts etc?

That it was purchased and if anyone in her team needed it they could borrow it I believe.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4301 on: October 30, 2023, 02:01:29 PM »
That it was purchased and if anyone in her team needed it they could borrow it I believe.

Did she provide a receipt for this and prove it was her who purchased it?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4302 on: October 30, 2023, 02:05:31 PM »
Did she provide a receipt for this and prove it was her who purchased it?

Provide a receipt to who? Me? No she did not

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4303 on: October 30, 2023, 02:18:44 PM »
The problem I'm incurring just now, is the reason and motive behind individual pieces of selective information. Are some simply errors, a practice of being caught up in misleading information, not fully releasing falsehoods but distracting away from the truth, that others are searching for, The list goes on ending with prevaricate-(to speak falsely or misleadingly; deliberately misstate or create an incorrect impression; lie.
Another commonly used word for this same behavior is to fudge, meaning to disingenuously avoid or talk around an issue.) Throughout each piece/response of information given and or replied to, I am putting out different scenarios as to why this may be depending on the individual, subject at hand.


I previously mentioned an example around the search party (trio) in ths case. The impression put out that they set out solely to head directly to the path, bypassing YW's house en route, which is a physical impossibility. I received an interesting response, to use in said work.

[🌟 Dr Sandra Lean replied to michael hamilton's comment
 

 
Dr Sandra Lean:
 
Peter Parkinson I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to give the impression that [Name removed]'s statement was the only evidence supporting "walking past Yvonne's flat without checking" - as I wasn't entirely sure of the meaning of your post, I asked if that ([Name removed]'s statement) was the aspect to which you referred. I'm not entirely sure what your study is aiming to achieve, but I'd urge caution - without the full facts, you cannot possibly infer "word/information/play to add weight to the story" - in this instance, for example, you have made the unfortunate error of assuming I have "based this part on full trust of said witness." ]



Having no knowledge of said statement, I had found the reply interesting and asked why she put trust in JF on this occasion. The above reply to that question and trust issue, gives the impression (not assumption) that there are more witnesses to testify to this fact? If so, why still state the search party walked directly to the path?  The reply above appear to have been removed from Ms Leans personal You Tube video, comments section.


[🌟 Dr Sandra Lean replied to michael hamilton's comment


 
Dr Sandra Lean

Peter Parkinson Do you mean when John [Name removed] said in his police statement he was looking out of Yvonne's window and he saw the search trio walking past Yvonne's flat on their way to the path]


Big shout out to Richard one of Luke’s amazing supporters, who asked a question that I’d never been asked before, he said, what if the search trio didn’t check Yvonne Walkers flat because they already knew she wasn’t there. And initially my thought was ‘well hardly I mean she had this little baby where would she have been’ you know, could it be possible (sounding a bit like Michelle Diskin-Bates). And the more I thought about it, the more I thought about the facts, the more things kinda began to drop into place.
Now you’re gonna get no speculation from me whatsoever on this one, okay, I’m just gonna give you the facts and you can make of them as you will (cackle)
So did they not check that flat because they knew not only was Jodi not there but neither was Yvonne, well the first thing I went looking through erm, some of the statements, some of the transcripts, some of the bits and pieces and I discovered that several witnesses within Jodi’s family, I’m,ediwte and extended used an identical phrase when talking about Jodi and smoking.
I ran this past eh, erm an ex police officer, I sad what, what are the chances that up to 5 people would use exactly the same phrase, exactly the same phrase, as each other when being questioned independably of each other. And he said well either they’ve all talked among themselves and they’re all repeating, they’re all singing from the same hymn sheet or that’s not their words and those words were put to them by the people asking them questions. And those words were written down by the people asking those questions.
So I’ll leave that one there, erm four or five people with exactly the same phrase about this particular thing erm, I don’t know significance, you choose

“So stop and think about that for just a minute, where was Yvonne Walker. Does any of this information confirm where she was or does it raise questions that she may not have been where she says she was. So I’m just gonna leave that one out there as well   
” ~ scammer Sandra Lean 29th Oct 2023 (YouTube)

Scammer Sandra Lean - 29th October 2023
Sandra Lean 3 hours ago
Absolutely - enormous thanks to Richard Bell - a question that no-one else ever asked in 20 years and suddenly - BAM! A whole new area that's never been examined - and a lot of questions about why not!!!


Janet Docherty
He was supposed to be asleep in his room all night.
6pm cemetery visit uncorroborated
Wet glove found hidden in YW flat
What time were YW and her mum buring clothes at.
JF not in the flat.
Their house of cards are coming down.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2023, 02:24:27 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4304 on: October 30, 2023, 03:57:00 PM »
Provide a receipt to who? Me? No she did not

At some point Lean will have to account for her "other income". She has been barred from using most donations services and is now openly asking for money on Paypal. For doing what? She has 20 years history of not achieving anything apart from self-promotion and struck off from Companies House. If she was any good she would be employed, not shilling on YouTube.

Donation schemes like Patreon etc have different levels - Gold, Silver, Bronze etc - and you can see what you get with your donation, but with Lean there is no transparency and never has been and I don't know anyone in their right mind who would give her a penny without some kind of guarantee of how it will be spent. Maybe it's these people she is targeting.