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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5280 on: December 20, 2023, 09:06:23 PM »
I’m at a loss to understand this kind of hatred towards someone you have never met. It’s all rather sinister.

Nothing sinsister. Someone who has spent 20 years actively pursuing a murder victim's family and you want to have LM round for tea, that's sinister. Lean has shown nothing but hatred towards the Jones family. She could have campaigned without using them. As I said, I hope she pays for her wicked pointless actions in whatever way, karma and all that.

Do you still believe her now after the transcripts show she has lied, or do you just want to engage in pedantic pointscoring as usual?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5281 on: December 20, 2023, 10:26:01 PM »
I’m at a loss to understand this kind of hatred towards someone you have never met. It’s all rather sinister.
Wow.  Just wow.  How many years did you devote to slagging off two people and their friends, family and supporters, none of whom you had ever  met?  Sinister and hypocritical.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5282 on: December 20, 2023, 10:37:04 PM »
It appears from Rosemary Walsh’s evidence that sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell had wet hair when she saw him, therefore very possible this was either from him sweating or having washed his face and hands in a nearby stream, river etc

“…it looked either wet, like he’d been caught in the rain or he had something like gel on it”~ Rosemary Walsh 8th July 2003
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5283 on: December 20, 2023, 11:04:49 PM »
I doubt they'll withdraw their books

They may end up being legally challenged and have no choice in the matter
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5284 on: December 20, 2023, 11:27:54 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean - 25th February 2021

The 2005 conviction of Luke Mitchell for the murder of Jodi Jones in 2003 requires an urgent and fully independent inquiry. There are far too many unanswered questions to consider this conviction safe.

In the spirit of true justice and transparency, we, the undersigned, demand that all evidence and information be released to an independent panel (not the SCCRC) for scrutiny, comment and recommendations. The people are willing to raise funds to contribute to the cost of such an inquiry.



How have the funds been spent ?

£5 from each book sale are going into a “fighting fund”

All profits from book sales are being “donated” to an organisation which does not exist


Killer Luke Mitchell: Scammer Sandra Lean Claims The Profits From Her 2018 Book Sales Are Being Donated To “Long Road To Justice” An Organisation That Does NOT Exist (Part 184)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/22/killer-luke-mitchell-sandra-lean-claimed-the-profits-from-her-2018-book-were-being-donated-to-an-organisation-that-does-not-exist-part-184/

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5285 on: December 20, 2023, 11:38:01 PM »
Killer Luke Mitchell: Scammer Sandra Lean Claims The Profits From Her 2018 Book Sales Are Being Donated To “Long Road To Justice” An Organisation That Does NOT Exist (Part 184)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/22/killer-luke-mitchell-sandra-lean-claimed-the-profits-from-her-2018-book-were-being-donated-to-an-organisation-that-does-not-exist-part-184/

Murderer Michelle Nicholson’s book was 👆🏽“legally edited”👆🏽 by scammer Sandra Lean

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5286 on: December 20, 2023, 11:40:43 PM »

How have the funds been spent ?

£5 from each book sale are going into a “fighting fund”

All profits from book sales are being “donated” to an organisation which does not exist


TIMELINE Of Scammer Sandra Lean’s Public Relations Spin Campaign & Where Are The Donations From The Profits Of Her Book Going, Funding & Taxes Etc (Part 269)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/07/27/killer-luke-mitchell-timeline-of-scammer-sandra-leans-public-relations-spin-campaign-where-have-the-donated-profits-from-the-october-2018-book-gone-funding-taxes-etc-part-269/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5287 on: December 20, 2023, 11:47:10 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean to James English (May 2019)

The reason I put the book out is if I were forced to give up so if anything happened to me I don’t think there’s anybody else in Scotland got the level of knowledge of the case that I’ve got and the idea was put everything in there and then if anybody else wants to come along and take over the informations there   

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5288 on: December 20, 2023, 11:56:45 PM »
Murderer Michelle Nicholson’s book was 👆🏽“legally edited”👆🏽 by scammer Sandra Lean

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Might have been an idea to have someone legally edit your own book Sandra Lean
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5289 on: December 21, 2023, 12:04:09 AM »
….various legal proceedings seem to be sooner than later and Paypal, Inland Revenue etc are on her case for illegal activities/undeclared earnings etc.

Scammer Sandra Lean - via you tube 14th April 2021

I’ll pay the tax on all of the donations…”


How many books have you sold in total Sandra Lean and how much have you paid in tax on all these donations you’ve received since October 2018 to date?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5290 on: December 21, 2023, 12:25:44 AM »
James Easton - Facebook 20th December 2023
THE MURDER OF 14-YEAR-OLD JODI JONES ON 30 JUNE, 2003 AND LUKE MITCHELL'S TRIAL

On Monday, 30 June, 2003, 14-year-old Jodi Jones was the victim of a horrific murder, on the outskirts of Dalkeith, a small town, South of Edinburgh.

Jodi was on her way to meet her 14-year-old boyfriend, Luke Mitchell and took a pathway through woodlands.

How do you know whether or not Jodi Jones still considered killer Luke Mitchell to be her “boyfriend” by the time she left to meet up with him?

Is it possible Jodi Jones had found out about Kimberly Thomson, or suspected he was planning to visit her in 5 days time?


Who did Mr Fuller speak to about his forthcoming holiday with Corinne Mitchell and what did he tell people about the killers other girlfriend Kimberly Thomson are his planned visit on the 5th July ?

Who did the people Mr Fuller may have told about the planned visit to Kenmore tell?

We lived in a small village, a satellite in a three-mile radius around the town of Dalkeith, Midlothian. Village and small town life revolves around gossip and inward-looking concerns and our area was no different. The murder of Jodi Jones sent shock waves crashing through a number of interlinked, interdependent small communities encircling Dalkeith. The place was awash with rumour…” ~ scammer Sandra Lean (page 17)

Could Jodi Jones have found out something during that Monday - possibly at lunchtime?

What did Paul Cook, Keith Campbell, Alistair Leitch and David Suttie (china gardens) tell the jury and who did these people know?

And what did these witnesses say Jodi Jones was wearing at lunchtime?

What did the witnesses who saw her at school that day say she was wearing?

Also the evidence suggests Jodi Jones may have been running late, hence Luke Mitchell’s impatient call to the speaking clock at 4:54pm

There is zero evidence that Jodi Jones “took a pathway through woodlands” alone!

Andrina Bryson did not see Jodi Jones on the “pathway of the woodlands” and Jodi Jones was banned from using the pathway alone!

All those people who knew Jodi Jones best said she would not have used that path alone!


Alas, Jodi's body was discovered close by, later that night, by Luke himself, perhaps aided by his alsatian, who was being trained for tracking.

It was Steven Kelly who first “discovered” Jodi Jones’ body at around 11:30pm on the 30th June 2003 after killer Luke Mitchell pretended he had “found something”

There is zero evidence sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell went anywhere near his crime scene (other than just behind the V break in the wall) after leaving it some time after he had committed his murder earlier in the evening (See all trial testimony - including the three witnesses who were with the killer)

The “Jodi’s body was discovered close by, later that night, by Luke himself” trope is what the killer pretended had happened and the mainstream media ran with this false and misleading narrative

And the mainstream media, and many others, have continued to run with this false and misleading narrative for over two decades!

The illusory truth effect, also known as the illusion of truth, describes how when we hear the same false information repeated again and again, we often come to believe it is true.
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https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/illusory-truth-effect#:~:text=The%20illusory%20truth%20effect%2C%20also,that%20the%20misinformation%20is%20false


Although Like was not initially a suspect, circumstantial evidence seemed to imply otherwise and at trial, on 21 January, 2005, he was found guilty, by a majority verdict.

Killer Luke Mitchell became a suspect by 3rd July 2003

As by then, 16-years-old, he was sentenced to life imprisonment, with the possibility of parole, after serving 20 years.

However, due to the fact Luke Mitchell maintains his innocence, parole is not a likely possibility.

Many actual, factual guilty murderers progress through the prison system whilst pretending they are innocent

This case is incredibly complex and complicated.

It isn’t!

As you may come to realise once you have read all the trial transcripts - from start to finish


Bottom line; Luke Mitchell was, at the time of Jodi's murder, only 14 years old, yet an avowed Satanist, who carried a knife and had a heavy cannabis habit.

In reality - He was just over 3 weeks shy of being 15

There is evidence he carried more than one knife, there is also evidence he drunk alcohol and there is evidence of allegations of previous knife attacks on young girls

Campbell was then shown three knives which he said were similar to ones he had seen in Mitchell's possession”
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https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+JONES+MURDER+TRIAL%3A+NAKED+AND+MUTILATED%3B+Jury+see+video+of+her...-a0124597244

Killer Luke Mitchell’s violent nature (or “short fuse”) appears to have been known about from at least the age of 7


A knife sheath found in his bedroom had a memorial to Jodi, "[Name removed] - 1989 - 2003", a quote from her favourite Nirvana lyrics, "THE FINEST DAY I EVER HAD WAS WHEN TOMORROW NEVER CAME' and also featured "'666" on both sides of the sheath.

Where did killer Luke Mitchell hide this particular knife sheath (Jack Pyke) between 30th June 2003 - 14th April 2004?

The brown wooden handled Jack Pyke knife, which would usually be kept in the Jack Pyke leather knife sheath went missing sometime after killer Luke Mitchell committed his murder 

He also had another girlfriend and neither knew about the other. Although his other girlfriend lived 92 miles away and they had met on holiday, Luke regularly phoned her and had already scheduled to visit her on Saturday 5 July and possibly stay for a few days - the school summer holidays had just began.

Not “possibly stay” - the holiday was booked and planned to begin on the 5th July 2003

There is also evidence to suggest that killer Luke Mitchell may have been targetting other girls at the same time he was targeting Jodi Jones and Kimberly Thomson


This was, of course, planned for the weekend after Jodi's murder.

However.. and it is enormous...

There is no actual hard-core evidence, linking Luke to the crime itself.

What could be described as “enormous” was the fraud involved in the murderers public relations spin campaign

What do you define as “hard core evidence”?

There is no actual evidence pointing towards anyone else other than killer Luke Mitchell (again read all trial transcripts from start to finish)


There is no DNA evidence and Luke was seen after the presumed time of death, with no noticeable traces of bloodstained clothing.

There was undated, circumstantial DNA evidence

An agreement was made between the crown, the killer and his defence team that because the pair were in an “intimate relationship”, undated, circumstantial DNA could not advance the case

Why would killer Luke Mitchell have been seen with “noticeable traces of bloodstained clothing” by anyone other than possibly his mother Corinne Mitchell and/or brother Shane Mitchell?

Who walks or drives around looking for people wearing “noticeable traces of bloodstained clothing”?


Additionally, he met up with friends shortly after the assumed time of death.

He met up with his then friend David High around 1 hour and 40 minutes after having committed his murder

David Tullock was a friend of David High’s not killer Luke Mitchell, as far as it is known

There is nothing yet in the public domain regarding the other lad David Tulloch was with


Were there other suspects... absolutely and then some.

Who?🙄

If you look at the evidence in its entirety it points to sadistic, psychopathic killer Luke Mitchell and only Luke Mitchell!


As a result of potentially significant, new developments, arising from exceptional research by acquaintances, I have recently also become involved in researching this case - an update here:

What “potentially signifcant, new developments”?🙄

And why do you seemingly refer to your daughter as “acquaintances” ?


https://lukemitchelltrial.blogspot.com/2023/11/availability-of-trial-transcripts.html

Has there been a miscarriage of justice?

No!

Some of purported prosecution evidence is outrageous and I can certainly explain the background to our Marilyn Manson connection - see: https://lukemitchelltrial.blogspot.com/2023/10/the-marilyn-manson-evidence-links-to.html

You have yet to see all of the “prosecution evidence” so why are you choosing to make this claim?

If perhaps of interest, due to only recent availability of the actual trial transcripts, new evidence is gradually unfolding and you can join this resultantly established Facebook group:

It is not “new evidence”!🙄

It is “new” to you because you did not attend the killers 2004/05 42 day trial and hear all the evidence presented


https://www.facebook.com/groups/594743596079701/?ref=share_group_link

My present judgement call....

Comprehensively not proven and perhaps a vital clue, hidden in these detailed trial transcripts, some more of which have just been made available online.

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Ongoing research, extremely rare to have this opportunity, so many years later and being able to share in real time.

No it isn’t!

And the full trial testimony was not shared “in real time”!

If it was, it is extremely doubtful there would have been a public relations innocence fraud spin campaign

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5291 on: December 21, 2023, 12:30:20 AM »
James Easton - Facebook 19th December 2023
CYCLISTS TRIAL TRANSCRIPTS

Although we have the Andrew Holburn transcript, unfortunately, it has just been confirmed that trial proceedings, involving the other two cyclists, Grant Elliott and Dean Houston, have not been transcribed and thus presently unavailable.

Meaning only Grant Elliott, Dean Houston and all the people who heard their evidence during their testimony would know what they stated during the trial

And why are you choosing to refer to them as “cyclists”?

Dean Houston“occasionally” cycled to school with killer Luke Mitchell, he was a fellow pupil at the same school as the killer


Most frustrating and especially as all three appeared as witnesses on the same day.

Why do you think the killer and his lawyers didn’t obtain trial transcripts for witnesses like Grant Elliott and Dean Houston?

To request an actual transcript from scratch, if possible, could be extremely expensive, obviously depending on how much work was involved.

Quoting the Scottish Courts web site:

"The cost of transcribing is £91.23 per hour or £1.52 per minute, plus VAT".

I shall personally ask for a quote though.

It is extremely unlikely the courts will release the actual audio copies of these witnesses testimony to any member of the public, especially due to their young age at the time they gave their evidence 

Incidentally, I note that in her book, Sandra Lean claims:

"Just before six o’clock, Luke was identified by people who knew him, sitting on a wall at the end of his street, 400 - 500 metres further along the Newbattle Road, wearing completely different clothes (baggy jeans,
green bomber jacket with orange lining and distinctive, light coloured snowboarding boots)".

Andrew Holburn did not know killer Luke Mitchell

Also none of these three witnesses appear to have said they saw the killer “sitting on a wall

“Dean said that he occasionally cycled to school with Mr Mitchell, and Grant said the accused was still standing at the same spot as he made his return journey home some 20 minutes to half-an-hour later.
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12410701.cyclists-tell-trial-of-seeing-jodi-accused/

“As they passed the youth, Andrew asked who he was. Both his pals said it was Luke Mitchell.
Grant Elliot and Dean Houston, both 15, confirm to the court that they had seen Mitchell on the night Jodi was killed. All three witnesses identify Mitchell in the dock. Houston, who said he occasionally cycled to school with Mitchell, says: 'I'm sure he was on the phone.' And Grant Elliot tells the court that Mitchell was still standing at the same spot 20 minutes to half an hour later.
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https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL%3A+A+strangling+sort+of+sound%2Ca+human.+It+sounded...-a0125808235


Trial testimony of the productions of killer Luke Mitchell’s mobile telephone records will most probably be able to establish whether or not the killer made a call, like Dean Houston’s evidence suggested he may have done

This is part of a longer section, in which various sightings of Luke and his clothing are compared.

Point being, this apparently relates to the cyclists and there is no known, supporting evidence that Luke was seen by them, wearing his green bomber jacket.

 8((()*/ or those cream coloured snow boots

In fact, the one testimony we do have, from Andrew Holburn, categorically rules out a bomber jacket and so far as I am aware, there's is no known, publication as regards what the other two cyclists described Luke wearing, or even if they were asked to.

Of course they would have been asked to describe what the killer was wearing 🙄

What reason would there have been for the police to not have asked them to describe what he was wearing? 🙄

This is important, as until now, Sandra's claim has been seen as supporting evidence that Luke was wearing his green bomber jacket, by three independent witnesses,

This is yet more of scammer Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud nonsense -

three independent witnesses” did describe the killer as wearing his green bomber jacket -

David High, David Tullock and the other lad with David Tulloch

at this moment and implying other sightings, around the same time and of Luke wearing different clothing are factually challenged.

Who by?

Sandra Lean also states:

"A more credible explanation, based on all of the available evidence, is that there was no parka, German army shirt or fishing clothes belonging to Luke on June 30th and that he was wearing the bomber jacket the whole day and evening, up to the point that Jodi’s body was found".

There would have been witnesses who gave evidence of what the killer was wearing to school that day

Andrina Bryson didn’t suggest killer Luke Mitchell was dressed to go fishing, her description was what she perceived his parka reminded her of


There was, however, an army surplus, German army shirt, which Luke owned, as of 30 June.

Sandra Lean was a regular contributor to the same 2010 thread on the 'International Skeptics' forum, in which Luke's mother, Corinne Mitchell verified:

Scammers Sandra Lean and Corinne Mitchell were also regular contributors to the WAP forum.

Corinne Mitchell was subsequently banned from the WAP forum by un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton, because her statements were exposing her and her killer sons guilt even more

Note: All of scammer Sandra Lean and Corinne Mitchell’s statements from the WAP forum have since been deleted from the World Wide Web


28 June, 2010

"Luke did have a german army shirt which the police took. He got another one for his birthday....and the police took that too and as they were never produced as "evidence" in court they didn't find anything on them".

Are you beginning to recognise how scammers Corinne Mitchell and Sandra Lean aren’t on the same page so to speak?

So he could have had two or more of these army shirts before he committed his murder

What clothing items did Matthew Muraska list that the killer wore to army cadets?

The killer also had a Marilyn Manson calendar for his birthday (found ripped up in a bin), which appears to have been seized by police on the 4th July - his birthday wasn’t until the end of July

Did killer Luke Mitchell and his mother also buy a replacement green army shirt from FLIP on the 8th July as well as the parka?


Incidentally, I was wondering what Sandra Lean had remarked concerning the fact that Luke had met up with friends, David High and David Tulloch, plus one other, circa 7 p.m. and they had smoked cannabis in the grounds of Newbattle College, eventually making their way to the 'Tarzan' swing, past Luke's house.

Sandra covers it, briefly:

"By seven o’clock, Jodi hadn’t turned up, so Luke called his mother and asked her to direct Jodi, if she turned up at the house, to the grounds of Newbattle Abbey, where he had arranged to meet some other
friends.

Killer Luke Mitchell initially invited David High to meet him at his home in Newbattle abbey crescent

At some time thereafter he contacted David High again and told David (High) he would instead meet him at the abbey

The 7pm time appears to have been when David Tullock and the other lad met up with David High

The estimated time when killer Luke Mitchell arrived at the abbey does not appear to have been reported on

What time did David High, David Tullock and the other lad estimate there was a heavy downpour of rain?

And at what time did Alan Turnbull calculate this heavy downpour occurred?

The timings of the heavy downpour of rain that evening is something the police would have established very early on during their investigation 



At 10:38pm, while he was taking his dog...".

Sandra Lean omits the drug taking component entirely.

She omits a wealth -

Another relevant fact being that Corinne Mitchell’s evidence was that her killer son had taken her dog out for a walk at around 9:40pm


Nonetheless, there is nothing seemingly untoward in Luke doing so, if he presumed Jodi was not turning up, for whatever reason.

🙄 There is everything “seemingly untoward” in killer Luke Mitchell’s behaviour after telephoning the Jones’ home phone

When he eventually met up with David High he told him Jodi Jones “couldn’t come out

Why would he say this?

It’s a massive red flag!

The witness told the court that on the evening of 30 June last year, the day when Jodi was killed, he met up with Mr Mitchell at Newbattle Abbey College. But he noticed Mr Mitchell was by himself. He told the court: "I asked him where Jodi was because it was unusual for them not to be together. "He said that she wasn't coming out." The court heard that when questioned by police after the murder, Mr High had given a slightly different version of that, stating that Mr Mitchell had said Jodi "couldn't" come out.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4066537.stm

This (when he got to the abbey) was more than likely the first time the killer had had a chance for his drug taking since the lunchtime

He had been busy attempting to put an alibi in place, changing his clothes and washing his face and hands etc


Indeed, if guilty of having just killed Jodi, it would be a 'cold hearted murder', personified.

Sadistic, psychopath Luke Mitchell did kill Jodi Jones and it was indeed “a cold hearted murder

It perhaps gives pause for related thought and something therein, I will come back to.


As an adoptee, how do you think Corinne Mitchell’s mental health impacted on her and in turn her two sons over the years?

And what have you been able to establish regarding Corinne Mitchell’s self medicating via drink and drugs?

Sandra Lean always gave the impression Corinne Mitchell was a heavy drinker

By the way, Corinne Mitchell attempted to project her undesirable character traits onto David High and referred to him as  a “notorious liar” 

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Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5292 on: December 21, 2023, 10:21:15 AM »
^^ Excellent work, Nicholas! These are the real questions, though obviously rhetorical mostly. You've successfully highlighted the extent of how overwhelming the circumstantial evidence was against LM.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5293 on: December 21, 2023, 11:07:45 AM »
^^ Excellent work, Nicholas! These are the real questions, though obviously rhetorical mostly. You've successfully highlighted the extent of how overwhelming the circumstantial evidence was against LM.

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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5294 on: December 21, 2023, 12:17:56 PM »
Nothing sinsister. Someone who has spent 20 years actively pursuing a murder victim's family and you want to have LM round for tea, that's sinister. Lean has shown nothing but hatred towards the Jones family. She could have campaigned without using them. As I said, I hope she pays for her wicked pointless actions in whatever way, karma and all that.

Do you still believe her now after the transcripts show she has lied, or do you just want to engage in pedantic pointscoring as usual?

I didn’t believe or disbelieve her…she was simply a source.

The transcripts while interesting don’t tell the whole story either. We can see that from the changes to several witness’s testimony.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?