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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #540 on: March 15, 2022, 04:13:53 PM »
It is a mess: Pages of waffle around what Luke claimed, which was not where he managed to get to in the time from going over the wall. We know this, heard in evidence, that both JaJ and SK had only walked around 10 - 15ft when Mitchell shouted out. This is from the V break. LM went over, AW held the leash, then and only then did JaJ and SK walk past the break, barely any distance and he had shouted out. LM had only walked roughly the same distance if even the same. As they darted back to the break when he shouted and he was there on the other side. He does not mention darting back. It is my opinion and a very strong one, that LM was at haste before the arrival of the police! He most definitely and proven to be so, no closer than around 25ft. 

So and again there was no evidence led and none given directly in the book, that LM's claim to SL, that he had a "powerful search light" was true. Embellished once more to make claim that he could see wonders! It does not matter for LM had walked no more than 10f - 15ft on the other side of that wall. Every account he gave was from earlier in the evening, at and after the time of the murder.

Wasn’t it once claimed that made up ‘powerful search light’ came from a ‘pack’ of torches?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #541 on: March 15, 2022, 06:02:00 PM »
It is a mess:

And I suspect intentional 🙄

Did Sandra Lean mention the murder of Thomas McKendrick and related media articles in IB

of the sadistic psychopathic killer Allan Menzies ?

Menzies said he had been ordered to kill by Akasha, who appeared before him, and promised him immortality. "At the end of the day, I knew I would have to murder somebody anyway, so ... if you did not murder somebody you could not become a vampire," he told the court.
But three psychiatrists told the court that Menzies' psychopathic disorder was not a mental illness on which a conviction could be reduced from murder to culpable homicide on the ground of diminished responsibility.
The court was told that Menzies had a reputation for enjoying violence and sadism and, as a 14-year-old had been sentenced to three years for stabbing a fellow school pupil
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/nov/16/ukcrime.kirstyscott
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #542 on: March 15, 2022, 06:57:17 PM »
More manipulation 🙄

Sandra Lean (Around a week ago)
Sharon Cuthbertson Stevenson First of all, thank you for being so honest. I know many people have been afraid to admit they believed Luke, Jeremy and others were guilty purely based on media portrayals. But it's people like you, who are willing to take another look and decide for themselves, once they have seen all the facts, who will eventually bring about the changes we need in our justice systems - changes that will stop innocent people being robbed of decades of their lives and, in cases like Luke's, leaving the real killers walking among us.

Secondly, the murders for which Jeremy was convicted happened 20 years before Luke was convicted. Long before I became involved in this work, I knew there was something terribly wrong with Jeremy's case. I didn't understand, back then, HOW it could have gone so badly wrong, but I knew that it had.



Sandra Lean hasn’t commented publicly on psychopathic mass murderer, child killer, coercive controller and drug/date rapist Jeremy Bamber before now that I’m aware of - not in her own name at least, and we know she uses ‘false identities’, so it is possible as she still uses them.
And we also know she doesn’t appear phased by them given Stephen T Mannings numerous ‘false identities’ and smear campaigns - which were off the scale

Has Sandra Lean made any comment on Stephen T Mannings wife btw

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http://www.indymedia.ie/article/108140
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #543 on: March 15, 2022, 07:36:08 PM »
And I suspect intentional 🙄

Did Sandra Lean mention the murder of Thomas McKendrick and related media articles in IB

of the sadistic psychopathic killer Allan Menzies ?

Menzies said he had been ordered to kill by Akasha, who appeared before him, and promised him immortality. "At the end of the day, I knew I would have to murder somebody anyway, so ... if you did not murder somebody you could not become a vampire," he told the court.
But three psychiatrists told the court that Menzies' psychopathic disorder was not a mental illness on which a conviction could be reduced from murder to culpable homicide on the ground of diminished responsibility.
The court was told that Menzies had a reputation for enjoying violence and sadism and, as a 14-year-old had been sentenced to three years for stabbing a fellow school pupil
.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/nov/16/ukcrime.kirstyscott

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3174214.stm

https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=b85887a6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/murderer-ate-friend-s-head-scottish-court-hears-1.501738
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #544 on: March 15, 2022, 07:52:13 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/murderer-ate-friend-s-head-scottish-court-hears-1.501738

This ⬆️ cannibal killer put in a ‘special defence of incrimination’ like LM

’‘A man has admitted killing his friend, drinking his victim's blood and eating part of his head, a Scottish court heard today.
Mr Allan Menzies (22) is accused of murdering 21-year-old Thomas McKendrick in the West Lothian village on December 11th last year, and of burying him in a shallow grave.
Defence counsel Mr Donald MacLeod told the High Court in Edinburgh that his client, also known as Leon Menzies, denied both charges but offered a plea of guilty to culpable homicide for reasons of diminished responsibility, which was rejected by the Crown.
Mr Menzies' legal team also lodged a special defence of incrimination in respect of the second charge, of attempting to defeat the ends of justice, by claiming two other men sought to conceal the crime.


Luke Mitchell, 16, launched special defences of alibi and incrimination.
He says he was at home at the time Jodi is said to have died.
And he has blamed a person or persons unknown for the murder at a wooded area in Dalkeith, Midlothian.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+JONES+MURDER+TRIAL+%3A+DOUBLE+DEFENCE%3B+Mitchell+enters+not+guilty...-a0124547202
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #545 on: March 15, 2022, 08:37:25 PM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3174214.stm

Note the BBC journo’s comment re ‘mental health’ 🙄 and Aamar Anwar’s nonsense 🙄
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #546 on: March 17, 2022, 04:53:52 PM »
It is a mess: Pages of waffle

My god - I’ve not long ago seen page 119 of IB shared by someone called Gayle Mingle seemingly originating from a Linsay  Arthur

What a mess indeed but a predictable mess

And Gayle Mingle has also shared a photo of a page from the book with a message from Sandra Lean stating ‘thank you for caring’ 🙄
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #547 on: March 18, 2022, 09:57:49 AM »
Sandra Lean (yesterday)
’How can it only have been a year??? It feels like so much has changed, so many more people are now aware of the truth we'd been trying to get out there for almost 2 decades. I'm still in awe of the explosion of awareness and understanding that began at the end of February, just a year ago and in eternal gratitude to every single person who has picked up the baton and run with this information.

To Danielle Bbarclay, I want to say, you are one of those who have gone above and beyond - an absolute legend, tenaciously hounding down the facts, pulling the threads on the 18+years of media coverage - that takes guts, commitment and dedication.

Ronnie Mothersole, the decision about the cover was agonising - how to honour Jodi, emphasise the catastrophe that fell on Luke's family and still stay respectful to everyone involved? I will be forever grateful to the people who designed the cover for me - I think they struck exactly the right balance.

Julie Henretty, Michelle Dillon, Craig Moore - gone are the days when every book is available from a library, whether it's a public library or a college/university library. They are all restricted by budget and the perceived "popularity" of any book they have on their shelves or in their digital records. If they think a book is not going to be read by serious numbers of people, they have to justify their spending on more "popular" books.

It shouldn'tbe so, but it is the way it is.


Danielle Bbarclay (28th November 2021)
’As years go by from June 30th 2003 the topic of Luke Mitchell has risen a number of times, media reports of Lukes apparent behaviour, false statements condemning Luke's character and most of all the regurgitation of the lies that convicted Luke in 2005. Almost 20 years after Jodi was murdered the case and conviction is still being discussed, printed and even questioned from masses of people. Think of all the murderers, serial killers and child killers who have been convicted. Why is there not large groups of people speaking about how wrong these convictions are? Because with these cases there is no doubt in them the correct person is in prison...usually it is DNA and science which can conclude there is no doubt the person done the crime.  The case of Luke Mitchell is solely based on circumstances but even these circumstances are flawed not solid, clear or definite. This in itself is dishonourable and wrong from the Scottish Justice System.  ‘He did it because he must have’ is not what justice is.   

The go to response from those who do believe justice has been served to those who either question Lukes's conviction or think he is innocent is ‘how disrespectful to Jodi’ and yes how disrespectful to Jodi indeed If being victim to such a horror attack  is not bad  enough then when it comes to serving her spirit and memory justice nothing is done to protect Jodi from the night  her body lay out in the open rain all night  right through to her boyfriend being sent to prison for doing something so unfathomable!   If justice has truly been served as it has been plenty of time with so many evil people then there is a reason everyone is still being told about Jodi and Luke to this day. There are reasons people have written books, produced documentaries, created podcasts all over the world and speak out loud about the murder and conviction.   Personally, I have yet to come across content such as a tv show showing us all how Luke is guilty...there can't be one as what would they have to show the public? CCTV? Pictures of Luke in Parka before 30th June 2003?  Jodi's blood all over Lukes's home? Direct witness at the scene?  There is nothing to prove Luke murdered Jodi at all in anyway shape or form as it is all assumed and made up.   I for one have no connection to either Luke or Jodi but along with thousands of others I feel it is up to others to help defeat the lies and restore the memory of Jodi in a way no one has ever done for Jodi.  All these negative headlines, all the articles damning Luke and making him out to be a monster...apart from ruining Lukes's life, for me that doesn’t hit me as hard as the thought of Jodi fighting for her life in those last minutes in attempt to protect herself against the evil and losing the battle. I want to help Jodi win and I know with the masses who think the same it can and will happen. 

They assume Luke is the killer?

Then we need to KNOW for sure once and for all with today's technology and an independent investigation with no bias assumptions it is the only way to give Jodi the respect she has been entitled to since 30th June 2003.

I don't often say this on the group due to this groups aim to helping get an independent Investigation into the case for Luke  and putting out the truth about Luke's story  but Jodi is always remembered or referred to by the 'body' or the 'deceased' and that is sadly true in this murder case  but this plea for an independent Investigation also includes Jodi's future I'll say it now.

Please share and educate everyone on this matter. Please help Jodi gain her well deserved Justice 💓 x



Sandra Lean
’What I cannot bear is that this was all done in my name - supposedly to protect me and my children - that applies to every single one of us. I've seen what was done to Jodi - that will stay with me forever. When this fight gets overwhelming, as it sometimes does, I only have to remember what it's all about. - what happened to Jodi and Luke could happen to anyone else (including my family and yours), because they failed to identify who was responsible and instead, cobbled together this narrative that disrespects Jodi in every way in its attempt to pin the murder on Luke.

For me, aside from the treatment of Jodi when she was found, the two dimensional portrayal of her throughout denies the very person she was. Jodi - the real person - has never been allowed to be seen in this supposed process of justice for her.


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #548 on: March 18, 2022, 10:12:16 AM »
Danielle Bbarclay (28th November 2021)
’As years go by from June 30th 2003 the topic of Luke Mitchell has risen a number of times, media reports of Lukes apparent behaviour, false statements condemning Luke's character and most of all the regurgitation of the lies that convicted Luke in 2005. Almost 20 years after Jodi was murdered the case and conviction is still being discussed, printed and even questioned from masses of people. Think of all the murderers, serial killers and child killers who have been convicted. Why is there not large groups of people speaking about how wrong these convictions are? Because with these cases there is no doubt in them the correct person is in prison...usually it is DNA and science which can conclude there is no doubt the person done the crime.  The case of Luke Mitchell is solely based on circumstances but even these circumstances are flawed not solid, clear or definite. This in itself is dishonourable and wrong from the Scottish Justice System.  ‘He did it because he must have’ is not what justice is.


Danielle Bbarclay appears to have no clue that DNA is circumstantial evidence too 🙄
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #549 on: March 18, 2022, 10:17:34 AM »
Danielle Bbarclay (28th November 2021)
’As years go by from June 30th 2003 the topic of Luke Mitchell has risen a number of times, media reports of Lukes apparent behaviour, false statements condemning Luke's character and most of all the regurgitation of the lies that convicted Luke in 2005. Almost 20 years after Jodi was murdered the case and conviction is still being discussed, printed and even questioned from masses of people. Think of all the murderers, serial killers and child killers who have been convicted. Why is there not large groups of people speaking about how wrong these convictions are? Because with these cases there is no doubt in them the correct person is in prison...usually it is DNA and science which can conclude there is no doubt the person done the crime.  The case of Luke Mitchell is solely based on circumstances but even these circumstances are flawed not solid, clear or definite. This in itself is dishonourable and wrong from the Scottish Justice System.  ‘He did it because he must have’ is not what justice is.   


Danielle Bbarclay did not attend the 52 days of killer Luke Mitchell’s murder trial and has instead based the above on a biased book written by a women with form for attempting to dupe others 🙄

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #550 on: March 18, 2022, 10:28:27 AM »
Danielle Bbarclay (28th November 2021)
The go to response from those who do believe justice has been served to those who either question Lukes's conviction or think he is innocent is ‘how disrespectful to Jodi’ and yes how disrespectful to Jodi indeed


Her narcissism seemingly doesn’t allow Danielle Bbarclay to see just how disrespectful she has been and is being to [Name removed] and her loved ones
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #551 on: March 18, 2022, 10:33:21 AM »
Sandra Lean
’What I cannot bear is that this was all done in my name - supposedly to protect me and my children.[/color]

‘Children’ or child?

Who were Sandra Lean’s two daughters living with exactly in 2003 and where?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #552 on: March 18, 2022, 10:36:45 AM »
Danielle Bbarclay (28th November 2021)
’As years go by from June 30th 2003 the topic of Luke Mitchell has risen a number of times, media reports of Lukes apparent behaviour, false statements condemning Luke's character and most of all the regurgitation of the lies that convicted Luke in 2005. Almost 20 years after Jodi was murdered the case and conviction is still being discussed, printed and even questioned from masses of people. Think of all the murderers, serial killers and child killers who have been convicted. Why is there not large groups of people speaking about how wrong these convictions are?


Was Danielle Bbarclay not aware of innocence fraud (And forums like this one) before watching the one side, biased TV show on sadistic killer Luke Mitchell?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #553 on: March 18, 2022, 11:48:05 AM »
Matt Elliott
3 times at the phone records lol

Sandra Lean
Stuart Reid And then another three times ... and repeat. Writing that chapter was possibly the biggest brain fry I've every experienced!!!



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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #554 on: March 18, 2022, 12:16:50 PM »
Julie Henretty
This book is full of all the facts that, sadly, were not made available to the jury at the trial.  It should be in every school and college library in Scotland so that students could find out what a dreadful miscarriage of justice was suffered by a 15 year old boy.


Unless Julie Henretty sat through each and every day of killer Luke’s Mitchell’s murder trial and heard all what was presented and was aware of why certain facts weren’t, she simply doesn’t have a clue

And I doubt she’ll know much as all, if anything about the innocence fraud campaign’s Sandra Lean has been involved in promoting

Does Sandra Lean make it clear to her readers she didn’t sit though each and every day of sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s trial?

Does her book make it clear Corinne Mitchell didn’t sit through her sons entire murder trial ?

Does her book tell her readers on what day Corinne gave evidence and how many days of evidence she missed?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4188339.stm
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