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« Reply #675 on: August 23, 2022, 05:25:05 PM »
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #676 on: August 24, 2022, 10:34:20 AM »
Caroline Strickland
I was just thinking about the night of the murder...when Jodi didn't show up and Luke went to spend time with friends.  They obviously know where he was and what he was he doing in these crucial time frames.
Where are they now? As adults, Why are they not jumping up and down demanding justice?
In all the documents and interviews there does not seem to be a lot of focus on this group of people.

Sam Ryan
I would imagine many have been trolled and intimidated from doing so. I know that [Name removed]s family were very active in forums etc and used the hack reporters to deeply shame anyone who spoke in defence of Luke?


 *&^^&


Where is your evidence for ‘I know that [Name removed]s family were very active in forums’ Sam Ryan ?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #677 on: August 24, 2022, 12:04:01 PM »
Sharon Indy Sunshine
They are here shouting about it, they just don't identify themselves for safety reasons, but I can assure you their support is unwavering for Luke. The team and Sandra know who they are also many locals come to us discreetly too.

The atmosphere in Dalkeith is still very much one of fear of speaking out publicly with their real names - the violence is very real.

I will let Sandra add to this for more clarity, plus on how the witnesses were treated etc.


 *&^^&
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #679 on: August 24, 2022, 05:37:20 PM »
Sharon Indy Sunshine
They are here shouting about it, they just don't identify themselves for safety reasons, but I can assure you their support is unwavering for Luke. The team and Sandra know who they are also many locals come to us discreetly too.

The atmosphere in Dalkeith is still very much one of fear of speaking out publicly with their real names - the violence is very real.

I will let Sandra add to this for more clarity, plus on how the witnesses were treated etc.


 *&^^&

Sharon Indy Sunshine
Kerry Tremble Kevan It really is, people are torn between their families safety and speaking out. It takes a lot to jeopardise getting your windows put in, or being physically attacked etc. or being featured in the DR.  Just look what Sandra and Corinne have had to endure over the years.
It is simply not acceptable. One blessing is they don't stand alone now as there are 7.3k members beside them.


 *&^^&
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« Reply #680 on: August 24, 2022, 05:37:59 PM »
Part 13 ~ Dropping Soon
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« Reply #682 on: August 25, 2022, 09:52:47 AM »
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« Reply #683 on: August 25, 2022, 09:54:22 AM »
*Updated* Part 17g of Quite A Hall Tale - Charlatan & Fraudster Sandra Lean
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/08/23/quite-a-hall-tale-part-17g%ef%b8%8f/
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« Reply #684 on: August 25, 2022, 11:12:17 AM »
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #685 on: August 25, 2022, 05:46:05 PM »
     

https://thescotslawblog.com/2021/03/01/unravelling-corroboration-and-circumstantial-evidence/

So these "professionals who really should know better" Experts in their field being asked questions in such a way to illicit the response sought after, matter not. It is simply bias upon bias. The article is correct, they have not witnessed near enough of this case to place any ? upon reasonable doubt.

And these wannabe experts, who profess to being something that they simply are not. There is and never was a criminologist who studied this case, there was a student who used it for study purpose. Psychic Sue? who just knew this complete stranger (cough) did not kill Jodi Jones. So much so she was shouting it from those rooftops she just loves so much. Who then,by September 2003 had LM look her in the eye and "she just knew (again) that he was innocent" Marvellous Intel.

IB tells us that Ms Lean along with the Mitchells carried out their "own form of investigation" CM tells us in her JE podcast of her and Sandra's theories. LM by October was out with his mother "celebrating the end of a difficult time" So this extremely "close collaboration" between what was to become SL's two "key witnesses" - had all three working together, investigating into who the killer could be? - comedy of errors! (IB really is!) We have barely reached Nov '03' here.

Make no mistake here, those foundations already being firmly laid. The events of that day, told to SL who simply soaked up every word, from this complete stranger, whom she just knew by that eye contact to be innocent. So one had those events firmly embedded, all three had media reports to work from. We had the duo on the bike, this mystery man, and as SL tells us in IB, intel from the Mitchells on Jodi's family, her brother. We still have not reached Nov '03' here. We already have half of IB here, those 380 pages of large text.

So, to the point (really), and to be serious here. Not that it would matter one iota what SL had access to, the outcome would still be the same. Taken every piece of advice by Colin Bowman. To sway public opinion by deflecting away from the convicted, the truth, the evidence. By using that psychological approach, that 'gaslighting' Pushing out a false narrative to place attention upon others, to change ones perception of the truth by showing that anyone connected may have been acting upon self interest.

Right down to those aunts in the carpark. Perhaps they arrived with Morag's UFO? Who knows, anything is a real possibility. Enough now:

SL has never had access to the case files, she did not attend those 9 weeks of trial, hearing/seeing/witnessing testimony first hand. Has never had access to full court transcripts. Is putting out her psychological approach, based upon deflection. As there is nothing, that is zero to even scratch the surface of a MOJ.  Everything she is projecting is based upon that clear conflict of interest, that claimed blind faith and psychic powers, telling her of a strangers innocence. - But going by these threads popping up (Blue Forum), it is easy to see exactly the level of intellect aimed at, and those who take this on as 9 weeks of nothing. For if the whole case fits into around 50 pages of large text (the rest deflection), you do exactly what it says on the tin. - wonderful stuff. Keep up the good work. What day is it today children? It is the day before 'Forensic Friday?'

More lies

No evidence to show this either

Why didn’t she attend the trial ?

In No Smoke (2008) she says ‘until two years ago’ before the book ergo 2006 http://checkpointpress.com/NS28pageSample.pdf

Until two years ago, I had no idea that anything was broken. I believed in the justice system, although I knew it had its faults. A chance meeting with someone who believed that a family member was a victim of a miscarriage of justice was to change all that. At the time, I was merely intrigued. Perhaps, like many people, I had an assumption that the relatives of almost everyone convicted of a serious crime don’t want to believe that one of theirs could do such a thing, and will tend to convince themselves that there has been a mistake. What I found left me shocked and sickened. The information was there, easily accessible, for me, or anyone else to see. Because it had simply never occurred to me to ask the questions (perhaps because I believed there were no questions to be asked), I had never been exposed to the answers. The more I delved, the more apparent it became that something is terribly wrong with our system, but hardly anyone seems to know, or care.

As my investigations progressed, I found another curious phenomenon. Not only were people reluctant to discuss the issue of miscarriages of justice, and the suggestion that there may be some very serious flaws at the heart of our justice system, they would vigorously (and sometimes with hostility) defend their position that I was mistaken – even with pages of documented evidence before them. It reminded me of the children’s story of the elephant in the sitting room. Everybody knows you don’t find elephants in the middle of the sitting room floor, so everyone acts as if there is no elephant there, even though they can all see it. Why? In the absence of back-up from anyone else, each individual assumes the others really can’t see the elephant, otherwise they’d say so. Secondly, it’s an elephant for goodness sake! If there was really an elephant there, then everyone would be talking about it. So we ignore the evidence of our own senses, for fear of looking stupid, or being judged by others.


Similar to Stephanie Bon and her ‘friends’ story

http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/08/24/warped-minded-abuser-gaslighter-con-artist-hypocrite-scott-forbes-his-blatant-lies-part-13/

‘Eye contact’ was 2007

‘THE heavy doors clanged shut behind Sandra Lean as she made her way inside a notorious young offenders' institution to meet one of Scotland's most infamous prisoners.
With piles of legal papers, transcripts, notes and scribbled questions in her arms, she sat down to look into convicted killer Luke Mitchell's face - and was troubled by what saw.
"I thought: 'Oh, he's just a bairn, he's just a laddie'," she recalls.
https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/claiming-killer-innocent-part-search-truth-2453025

Sandra Lean’s oldest daughter lived with her father from aged 8
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #686 on: August 25, 2022, 06:07:21 PM »

Until two years ago, I had no idea that anything was broken. I believed in the justice system, although I knew it had its faults. A chance meeting with someone who believed that a family member was a victim of a miscarriage of justice was to change all that. At the time, I was merely intrigued. Perhaps, like many people, I had an assumption that the relatives of almost everyone convicted of a serious crime don’t want to believe that one of theirs could do such a thing, and will tend to convince themselves that there has been a mistake. What I found left me shocked and sickened. The information was there, easily accessible, for me, or anyone else to see. Because it had simply never occurred to me to ask the questions (perhaps because I believed there were no questions to be asked), I had never been exposed to the answers. The more I delved, the more apparent it became that something is terribly wrong with our system, but hardly anyone seems to know, or care.

As my investigations progressed, I found another curious phenomenon. Not only were people reluctant to discuss the issue of miscarriages of justice,.

[Name removed]’s killer couldn’t have been an alleged ‘miscarriage of justice’ until after he was convicted

[Name removed]’s killer was found guilty on On 21 January 2005

The ‘chance meeting’ was circa 2006

‘At the time, I was merely intrigued. Perhaps, like many people, I had an assumption that the relatives of almost everyone convicted of a serious crime…’

She meets this ‘wee laddie’ sadistic, psychopathic schoolboy killer in 2007
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #687 on: August 25, 2022, 06:21:32 PM »
     

https://thescotslawblog.com/2021/03/01/unravelling-corroboration-and-circumstantial-evidence/

So these "professionals who really should know better" Experts in their field being asked questions in such a way to illicit the response sought after, matter not. It is simply bias upon bias. The article is correct, they have not witnessed near enough of this case to place any ? upon reasonable doubt.

And these wannabe experts, who profess to being something that they simply are not. There is and never was a criminologist who studied this case, there was a student who used it for study purpose. Psychic Sue? who just knew this complete stranger (cough) did not kill Jodi Jones. So much so she was shouting it from those rooftops she just loves so much. Who then, by September 2003 had LM look her in the eye and "she just knew (again) that he was innocent" Marvellous Intel.

IB tells us that Ms Lean along with the Mitchells carried out their "own form of investigation" CM tells us in her JE podcast of her and Sandra's theories. LM by October was out with his mother "celebrating the end of a difficult time" So this extremely "close collaboration" between what was to become SL's two "key witnesses" - had all three working together, investigating into who the killer could be? - comedy of errors! (IB really is!) We have barely reached Nov '03' here.

Does she say in IB the date she first met this sadistic psycho ‘wee laddie’ in YOI/prison?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #688 on: August 25, 2022, 06:41:30 PM »

‘Eye contact’ was 2007

‘THE heavy doors clanged shut behind Sandra Lean as she made her way inside a notorious young offenders' institution to meet one of Scotland's most infamous prisoners.
With piles of legal papers, transcripts, notes and scribbled questions in her arms, she sat down to look into convicted killer Luke Mitchell's face - and was troubled by what saw.
"I thought: 'Oh, he's just a bairn, he's just a laddie'," she recalls.
https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/claiming-killer-innocent-part-search-truth-2453025

Sandra Lean’s oldest daughter lived with her father from aged 8

In 2010 her and Corinne were attempting to suggest SK was wearing a grey hoodie and a witness saw him allegedly walking behind [Name removed]  *&^^&

2010
THE MOTHER of Luke Mitchell is involved in an internet campaign blaming another man for Jodi Jones’ murder.
http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2010/06/20/mitchells-mum-points-finger-at-another-man-for-jodi-killing/

The pair of them were also falsely claiming SK’a blood was found on [Name removed]’s top

Sandra Lean is a liar and fraud

‘They claim on an internet forum that DNA evidence links the man with the brutal 2003 stabbing.

And the man in question said he was aware of the claims against him.

He said: “I know what these people are saying about me.

“I will deal with this in my own time.”

Luke Mitchell, 22, was convicted of the murder of his 14-year-old girlfriend in 2005.

But his mum recently posted on an internet forum that evidence points to someone else.

She wrote: X’s semen and blood were on Jodi’s T-shirt…his description and clothing matched a witness statement of a male ‘following Jodi’…he was known to the police.

“Is it me or is anyone else adding things up here?

Description of man seen behind Jodi – grey hooded top.

“Several days after the murder X hands his grey hooded top to the police saying it has been washed.

“At 5pm X’s alibi is Janine (Jodi’s sister).

“The police accepted that Janine said, ‘he was with me’ and from him ‘ I was with her’.”

And Sandra Lean, author and researcher on miscarriages of justice, added: “Our Mr X is emerging as more and more suspicious.

The info that’s coming our way is shocking, especially as the police should have been onto this stuff right from the beginning.”



The police were on it right from the beginning Sandra - you weren’t!

I recall the above and I also recall communicating with a distressed Judy Jones around this time
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